Do you speak English? Have you lived in America? New LOVE/HATE list.........

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Mar 19, 10, 14:06 #91

oh dear. what a little gem I have for you all that I most certainly had to include on my own personal thread, considering my reasons for creating it in the first place.

inspired mostly because people on this forum talk constantly about America, yet not only have they not lived and worked there, often times they've never even BEEN there. not a day.

anyway, let's get to the fun part. posted from everyone's favorite blowhard, Delphiandomine, just this week:

When you actually live and pay taxes in Poland, we can talk.

well Delph.......exactly. glad we're now on the same page.

delphiandomineThreads: 40 Posts: 9,587 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂	Edited by: delphiandomine Mar 19, 10, 14:09 #92
FUZZYWICKETS: what a little gem I have for you all You're absolutely obsessed, it's hilarious :D Here's a hint, tough guy - no-one cares!

FUZZYWICKETSThreads: 12 Posts: 1,821 Joined: Nov 3, 09 ♂	Mar 19, 10, 17:04 #93
Delphiandomine wrote: Here's a hint, tough guy - no-one cares! speak for yourself. some folks on this forum enjoy watching me make an ass out of you.

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Edited by: grubas Apr 7, 10, 07:06 #94

Like:
Variety of stuff and its all fricking CHEAP
Cheap gas
Decent infrastructure
Spirit and attitude of most (friendliness)
Opportunities
Differences.North is differerent than South and West is different than East
George W Bush (may not like his foreign policy but he is a cool dude)
Diversity of cultures

Love:
Women.Forget Polish women,American women are the biggest sluts in the world.And in my eyes its a BIG +.If American women wants you ,you don't have do anything,she will come to you and it won't take long for you to score.Again BIG +.

Dislike:
Attitude of some ("we are the greatest nation"(that implies other nations are not equel to them),"everyone wants to live here" and so on).
Bill O'Reilly and Fox News

Hate:
American fascists ("we can do whatever and whereever coz we are Americans,and we are always right")
Lou Dobbs

Don't know if my opinion counts,coz I have no idea what level my English is.Learned it here myself (without any schools) ,just by living among Americans for 6 years,reading a lot and watching movies.

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Apr 7, 10, 08:27 #95

grubas wrote:

Like:
Variety of stuff and its all fricking CHEAP
Cheap gas
Decent infrastructure
Spirit and attitude of most (friendliness)
Opportunities
Differences.North is differerent than South and West is different than East
George W Bush (may not like his foreign policy but he is a cool dude)
Diversity of cultures

Love:
Women.Forget Polish women,American women are the biggest sluts in the world.And in my eyes its a BIG +.If American women wants you ,you don't have do anything,she will come to you and it won't take long for you to score.Again BIG +.

Dislike:
Attitude of some ("we are the greatest nation"(that implies other nations are not equel to them),"everyone wants to live here" and so on).
Bill O'Reilly and Fox News

Hate:
American fascists ("we can do whatever and whereever coz we are Americans,and we are always right")
Lou Dobbs

Don't know if my opinion counts,coz I have no idea what level my English is.Learned it here myself (without any schools) ,just by living among Americans for 6 years,reading a lot and watching movies.

nice, grubas.......nice.

FUZZYWICKETSThreads: 12 Posts: 1,821 Joined: Nov 3, 09 ♂	Apr 9, 10, 07:16 #96
grubas wrote: Please everyone if you have never been to US DON'T COMMENT!!!This is a big country and it really makes difference which part you in.As for food ,there is good food and bad food .You get what you pay for.As for consumer products I saw Hillfiger polo shirts on Heathrow for 70 euros a piece ,well I pay $35 BUY ONE GET ONE FREE.Makes you feel better?

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Edited by: RonWest Apr 9, 10, 07:28 #97

Reasons I love America:
Bill O'Reilly
Lou Dobbs
Mark Levin
Sean Hannity
Michael Savage
Michelle Malkin
Charles Krauthammer
Glenn Beck
Dick Morris

Reasons I hate America:
Barack Osama
Nancy Pelosi
Harry Reed
Charles Rangle
Keith Olbermann
Chris Matthews
MSNBC

And every other seditious left-wing wacko lib who is doing their best to bring this country down.

BTW, My Polish wife agrees 100% and can't believe she ran away from communism only to see it rear it's ugly head over here.

FUZZYWICKETSThreads: 12 Posts: 1,821 Joined: Nov 3, 09 ♂	Apr 9, 10, 07:35 #98
ronwest wrote: BTW, My Polish wife agrees 100% and can't believe she ran away from communism only to see it rear it's ugly head over here. true, true, true. surely life in communist Poland was a dreamland compared to today's life in the USA. hey ronnie, Reality just called, he said you guys can meet up whenever you're ready.

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Edited by: peterweg Apr 9, 10, 07:45 #99

RonWest:

My Polish wife agrees 100% and can't believe she ran away from communism only to see it rear it's ugly head over here.

Right wing nutjobs like you are why America has fallen so much into disrepair as a country.

What you conveniently forget is that Republican presidents have borrowed massively to fund military expansion and Democrats are the ones who reduce the deficit. Bush set up TARP, lets not forget as well as being responsible for the economic bubble that caused it.
You talk about 'social healthcare' being Obama's socialism, yet the US is already paying 16% of its GDP for healthcare and how more communistic can you get than that?

And remember the Project for a New American Century? Neocons plan to continue the American Empire took less than a decade to end America's sole super power status. Well done.

FUZZYWICKETS:

inspired mostly because people on this forum talk constantly about America, yet not only have they not lived and worked there, often times they've never even BEEN there. not a day.

Been there a dozen times, worked there and work with American's every day as customers and employee's. I've also been to 30 other countries and the US is definitely in the bottom three worst places to visit or live. Taiwan is the worst, followed by Dubai then has to come the US - the place is revolting.

pgtxThreads: 48 Posts: 6,269 Joined: Feb 14, 09 ♀ [Moderator]	Apr 9, 10, 16:39 #100
peterweg: Been there a dozen times, worked there and work with American's every day as customers and employee's. I've also been to 30 other countries and the US is definitely in the bottom three worst places to visit or live. Taiwan is the worst, followed by Dubai then has to come the US - the place is revolting. US is not for just anybody...

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Apr 9, 10, 21:29 #101

Reasons I HATE America:
Bill O'Reilly
Lou Dobbs
Mark Levin
Sean Hannity
Michael Savage
Michelle Malkin
Charles Krauthammer
Glenn Beck
Dick Morris

Reasons I tolerate America:
Barack Obama
Nancy Pelosi
Harry Reed
Charles Rangle
Keith Olbermann
Chris Matthews
MSNBC

And every other seditious neocon-wing wacko lib who is doing their best to bring this country down.

BTW, My American wife agrees 100% and can't believe that so many stupid people vote for republicans and corporate democrats
but that what you get for having " no chilled left behind programs " lowering standards does not work unless you doing it on purpose to create stupid population.

convexThreads: 47 Posts: 7,189 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Apr 9, 10, 21:35 #102
Marek11111: BTW, My American wife agrees 100% and can't believe that so many stupid people vote for republicans and corporate democrats What's a corporate democrat?

Moe Wanchuk	Apr 9, 10, 21:41 #103
peterweg: US - the place is revolting Lol, right the Grand Canyon, Great Lakes, Rocky Mountains, Key Largo.. scores of other places are all beyond belief disgusting.

Marek11111Threads: 49 Posts: 1,859 Joined: Aug 6, 09 MEMBER ♂	Apr 9, 10, 23:11 #104
convex Marek11111: BTW, My American wife agrees 100% and can't believe that so many stupid people vote for republicans and corporate democrats What's a corporate democrat? all but Dennis Kucinich

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Apr 15, 10, 01:59 #105

Marek11111:

Reasons I HATE America:
Bill O'Reilly
Lou Dobbs
Mark Levin
Sean Hannity
Michael Savage
Michelle Malkin
Charles Krauthammer
Glenn Beck
Dick Morris

Reasons I tolerate America:
Barack Obama
Nancy Pelosi
Harry Reed
Charles Rangle
Keith Olbermann
Chris Matthews
MSNBC

And every other seditious neocon-wing wacko lib who is doing their best to bring this country down.

BTW, My American wife agrees 100% and can't believe that so many stupid people vote for republicans and corporate democrats
but that what you get for having " no chilled left behind programs " lowering standards does not work unless you doing it on purpose to create stupid population.

Priceless :) LMAO Love it. well said.

Arg_Threads: 2 Posts: 44 Joined: Apr 14, 10 ♂	Apr 15, 10, 02:03 #106
America is much more than UNITED STATES.

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Edited by: ZeeAmerican Apr 15, 10, 05:10 #107

I was born and raised in the states and can give a little bit of my perspective. I did not read all the posts, for I am short on time this evening and have much to write already. I did see some things about gun violence along with a few other issues. Here is my take on some of the issues I did read over:

Gun ownership: Gun ownership and the abundance of firearms in the US cannot be solely to blame for the deaths that occur here. We are far and away the highest country in gun ownership per capita: 90:100 ratio, which does not take into account multiple guns owned by a single collector. By all the studies I have seen, America is pretty far down the chain on murders per capita - anywhere from 20-54 from the sites I have visited. Mexico, to the south, is far higher in murder per capita on every list I have seen.

Gun ownership can actually deter violent crimes, which I know sounds somewhat ridiculous, but please bare with me. Criminals will find a way to acquire firearms, no matter the nation's laws. Without the right of a citizen to protect himself with firearm, the criminals can have free reign to do whatever they like. Violent crimes are usually perpetrated most in countries with substandard living conditions where the government overtly oppresses its people into economic poverty. I would argue that the American government oppresses its people in very subtle ways, but it is no comparison to most third world countries. The view that America is overly violent is created by our media, due to a near total freedom of press. I don't agree with the wars we have waged after WWII. I don't like how we turned a blind eye to Stalin and the Soviet Union's aggression in Europe after WWII, for a long while, but as a whole we are fairly civilized.

Ignorance and the glamorization of stupidity: I agree that this is abundant here in the states, but you also have to see it from a socio-geographic standpoint. We are isolated from many of the industrialized nations of the world, we are not located in Europe, and we rebelled against the pre-eminent European power in the world, at that time. A surprising number of the people living here still see Europe as a system of monarchies, or communists nations, that hate the United States. Ignorance is certainly not discouraged by our government, though I wouldn't say it is necessarily promoted either. Our media rarely focuses on foreign events. I dare to say that 9 out of 10 people here have no idea who the president of Mexico is, or who the Prime Minister of Canada is; let alone, who rules Russian, Germany, and even Great Britain. We are not raised to be globalists, we are raised to be 'Americans'. That we call ourselves Americans should say enough about our view of countries outside the states. When you replace globalist ideas with American ideas what is then left; a 'me against the world' attitude and a capitalist/consumerist/materialist bent? Perhaps, perhaps I am simply pessimistic.

The United States is a paradox; both tolerant and intolerant, both great and terrible, both free and oppressed in thought, etc. The United States is difficult to understand from a native standpoint, I would be very wary of trying to evaluate it from a foreign standpoint, or being entirely certain in that evaluation. Again, this is just my opinion.

HavokThreads: 14 Posts: 1,507 Joined: Mar 12, 10 MEMBER ♂	Edited by: Havok Apr 15, 10, 06:07 #108
ZeeAmerican: ZeeAmerican It’s like trying to explain how water tastes...Stick around you'll find out.

FUZZYWICKETSThreads: 12 Posts: 1,821 Joined: Nov 3, 09 ♂	May 15, 10, 13:30 #109
zeeamerican wrote: The United States is difficult to understand from a native standpoint and even more difficult to explain.

ZbyszkoThreads: 1 Posts: 43 Joined: Mar 18, 10 ♂	May 15, 10, 14:38 #110
Love the 24 hour convenience stores in the US. It is really a nice thing to grab a six pack, cigarettes, bread, milk or whatever anytime day or night. But when it comes to food and Holidays especially Christmas nothing beats the spirit of togetherness in Poland.

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Edited by: plk123 May 15, 10, 15:59 #111

grubas:

George W Bush (may not like his foreign policy but he is a cool dude)

no, he definitely wasn't that.

Marek11111:

And every other seditious neocon-wing wacko lib who is doing their best to bring this country down.

the stupid repos are the ones bringing the country down.. bush and co. are the ones who came up with no child left behind and then didn;t fund it.. dude.. look into some of this stuff and don't be spoon fed by the dudes on your first list.. this is what makes me sad about america.. sheep like you..

ZeeAmerican:

Gun ownership can actually deter violent crimes, which I know sounds somewhat ridiculous, but please bare with me. Criminals will find a way to acquire firearms, no matter the nation's laws. Without the right of a citizen to protect himself with firearm, the criminals can have free reign to do whatever they like.

how many shooting are there per capita in PL? how about Australia? how abut Canada? hmm.. blows holes in your theory

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May 15, 10, 19:13 #112

plk123:

no, he definitely wasn't that.

He was a hell of a lot better leader than this Obaminated guy

plk123:

bush and co. are the ones who came up with no child left behind and then didn;t fund it..

Yeah they did. Kids have free immunizations.

plk123:

how many shooting are there per capita in PL? how about Australia? how abut Canada? hmm.. blows holes in your theory

It's not the gun that kills, but the person behind it. In those mentioned countries how many were killed by other means? If they had guns they would protect themselves from being killed.

FUZZYWICKETSThreads: 12 Posts: 1,821 Joined: Nov 3, 09 ♂	May 17, 10, 09:00 #113
plk 123 wrote: how about Australia? the crocodiles pick up the slack.

convexThreads: 47 Posts: 7,189 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	May 17, 10, 09:13 #114
urszula: It's not the gun that kills, but the person behind it. In those mentioned countries how many were killed by other means? If they had guns they would protect themselves from being killed. We have guns in the US to protect ourselves from the government, and to protect ourselves from other citizens when the government fails to provide adequate protection for our lives and property.

FUZZYWICKETSThreads: 12 Posts: 1,821 Joined: Nov 3, 09 ♂	May 17, 10, 10:06 #115
convex wrote: We have guns in the US to protect ourselves from the government, and to protect ourselves from other citizens when the government fails to provide adequate protection for our lives and property. it's the answer any sensible American would give......but it simply won't fly on PF.

resident grubas

Nov 17, 10, 21:50 #116

convex:

We have guns in the US to protect ourselves from the government, and to protect ourselves from other citizens when the government fails to provide adequate protection for our lives and property.

Now you are dissapointing me my man.Do you really think that in case of troubles a bunch of poorly armed citizens will have any chance against US army?I don't think so.Any rebelion would be quickly and easily quelled.

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Nov 17, 10, 22:04 #117

resident grubas:

Now you are dissapointing me my man.Do you really think that in case of troubles a bunch of poorly armed citizens will have any chance against US army?I don't think so.Any rebelion would be quickly and easily quelled.

The Iraqis were neither well trained, nor did they have good equipment. An armed populace causes those who are in power to think twice if there is serious opposition to something.

FUZZYWICKETSThreads: 12 Posts: 1,821 Joined: Nov 3, 09 ♂	Nov 17, 10, 22:13 #118
convex wrote: The Iraqis were neither well trained, nor did they have good equipment. An armed populace causes those who are in power to think twice if there is serious opposition to something. my thoughts exactly. the hillbillies in alabama alone would give them a good run for their money.

convexThreads: 47 Posts: 7,189 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Nov 17, 10, 22:20 #119
FUZZYWICKETS: my thoughts exactly. the hillbillies in alabama alone would give them a good run for their money. Or the skinnies for that matter...Somalia is still devoid of a US presence...

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Edited by: delphiandomine Nov 17, 10, 22:26 #120

resident grubas:

Do you really think that in case of troubles a bunch of poorly armed citizens will have any chance against US army?I don't think so.Any rebelion would be quickly and easily quelled.

Why has the US Army had such problems in the past then? Why did the Red Army do so badly in Afghanistan? Why did the British Army have serious issues with the IRA, even though the membership of the IRA was pathetically small?

Anyway, in terms of guns - surely it goes right back to the founding of America? It's her culture, after all. What works for America works for America, and it's none of my business to interfere.

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