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Wyspianska
  Nov 19, 07, 17:24  #31

Quoting: hello
If you suggest they would be unable to feed the child, you may be right. But we don't live in XV century anymore (nor in poor country of Africa in this case). What other "situation" do you mean? That they will only be able to afford a FIAT instead of BMW because they have a child?

as i said
U DONT KNOW
dont judge so fast

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hello
  Nov 19, 07, 17:29  #32

Quoting: Wyspianska
as i said
U DONT KNOW
dont judge so fast

It doesn't take a math scientist to know because she wrote:

I'm a Spanish girl who met last summer a sweet(at that time I thought so) Polish guy in Galway( Ireland). We had sex, and when I came back to Spain, we kept in touch, through sms, e-mail, phone, messenger...

She is from Spain (not Africa or another poor country). Do you think a person who can afford to go to vacation abroad (possibly not for the first time), has cell phone, computer etc. cannot feed herself and her child?

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Wyspianska
  Nov 19, 07, 17:31  #33

i was talking not about HER situation but about ur comments towards southern. u guys on this forum always make such things and then trying to proove it was different. the same about sledz an krysia
im offline now, wont care about

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telefonitika
  Nov 19, 07, 17:31  #34

This thread in my opinion is in danger of turning into a thread that is going to turn into a moral high ground and treading on a VERY delicate issue with alot of people. May asked for helpful advice not a brutal onslaught from posters ... abortion is a difficult and in many insists a decision that is not taken lightly.

also an english saying "it takes two to tango" and maybe in the heat of passions certain little rainmac was forgotten to be used .. but whats happened has .. please dont destroy this thread with comments that are not called for.


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hello
  Nov 19, 07, 17:33  #35

Quoting: Wyspianska
i was talking not about HER situation but about ur comments towards southern.

My comments were a response to his "suggestion".

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May
  Nov 19, 07, 17:36  #36

Feeding the child is not a problem. The problem is that I don't have a family who can help me raising the child, my job takes me too much time, and if I had the child, I'd want him/her to feel loved also by his father, and if I go on dreaming, I'd also like the child to live in a happy home with no affective lacks at all.
He knows for sure I haven't been with anyone else, I'm not that kind of girl, so he knows with no doubt he's the father. I don't need either his money or his surname, just some support I'm not receiving from him, even he hasn't answered my last e-mail.

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plk123
Edited by: plk123  Nov 19, 07, 17:38  #37

Quoting: hello
Do you know that the government is actually helpful if you don't have enough money to buy food for the child?

so you want her to go for handouts?

Quoting: May
he hasn't answered my last e-mail.

keep after him.. don't just let him off easy. he needs to be responsible for his actions.. you going after him for support is the responsible thing to do.

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JustysiaS
  Nov 19, 07, 17:41  #38

Quoting: May
I don't need either his money or his surname, just some support I'm not receiving from him, even he hasn't answered my last e-mail.


looks like he doesnt want to get involved, his money and his surname for the baby would be more useful to you than clinging onto what you had with him. its over, im sorry.

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southern
  Nov 19, 07, 17:43  #39

If you keep on sending e-mails,he will think you are going to ask for money and disappear totally.

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szkotja2007
  Nov 19, 07, 17:51  #40

May - the first thing you need to do is find someone to talk to. This will help you clarify what your own feelings are in a more positive environment.

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JustysiaS
  Nov 19, 07, 17:52  #41

Quoting: southern
If you keep on sending e-mails,he will think you are going to ask for money and disappear totally.


he might disappear anyway just to avoid responsibility. dont stalk him, but dont let him forget about the 'problem' you have and make sure he knows you are serious and he cant manipulate you.

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PinkJewel
Edited by: PinkJewel  Nov 19, 07, 18:00  #42

May, you have a big dilemma but now that it's happened you must look to a future that consists of you and a beautiful newborn life and you must forget a guy who is clearly not interested. If he was, he would of said as much.

Find one of your friends who you trust and you can speak to and confide in them. Failing that, I think your sisters, if you are close to them, will want to help you.

You feel at the moment, mixed up and scared and it seems that nothing will go right, but it will, some talk of abortion but take a huge deep breath before even considering this...think A LOT about it. This guy who made you pregnant, your friends who might advise it...they don't have to deal with the feelings you'll have after it happens. If you do it, you must be completely sure of why.

It's hard right now to think that your life can be good again but it can...you will have to work hard and bringing up a child is hard but worth it...

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sledz
  Nov 19, 07, 18:22  #43

Quoting: Wyspianska
this forum always make such things and then trying to proove it was different. the same about sledz an krysia
im offline now, wont care about

more lies from the foul mouthed kid

I`m sure nobody here cares about you either

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JustysiaS
Edited by: JustysiaS  Nov 19, 07, 18:25  #44

Quoting: Wyspianska
u guys on this forum always make such things and then trying to proove it was different. the same about sledz an krysia


what is she exactly talking about...?

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sledz
  Nov 19, 07, 18:49  #45

Quoting: JustysiaS
what is she exactly talking about...?


who knows shes just makes stuff up to cause trouble

shes a troll

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Lucynda
  Nov 19, 07, 18:50  #46

You're going to have to be strong....and you can be. I'm a single mom, too. Having a baby is the most natural thing in the world. There are organizations, churches, that can help with food and supplies. Yes, it will be a big change in your life -- it is for any woman -- even a wealthy woman who has a husband to help her.

But if you trust God, He'll send the right people into your life to help you with your pregnancy....I sense He already has sent supportive friends into your life.

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PinkJewel
  Nov 19, 07, 18:53  #47

Quoting: sledz
who knows shes just makes stuff up to cause trouble

shes a troll


True. But this girl is best ignored. This is a sensitive thread and can do without the likes of Wyspianska trying to prove herself. Everything must always be about Wyspianska - sorry kid, it's not always that way...

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Lucynda
  Nov 19, 07, 18:57  #48

Dear May,

Here is a post from a post-abortion chat group I belong to.

Please read it for an honest look at what happens when you make a decision about a child's life for "practical" or "sensible" reasons....


"How can you ever put back the pieces of a shattered heart when one major piece is gone forever.

my little angel would have been so loved, was so loved, i just didn't realise how much so until it was too late, i let fear take over....

how can this ever get any better when i can never have her here in my arms.

we should be a family, it would have been hard, but it would have worked, we really could have made it work, all those stupid "reasons" finances, uni etc, they could have been worked out, im not just saying that, they could have been, i was just scared, well guess what i still am scared, scared that this hurt, this regret, this longing, this unbearable ache right in the centre of my whole being will never leave

i cant make this right i cant bring her back"

Just some food for thought....

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PinkJewel
  Nov 19, 07, 19:02  #49

No Lucynda, I do not think this is helpful - just pushing an opinion really.

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Lucynda
  Nov 19, 07, 19:03  #50

Pink Jewel,

I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to May. Are you her brain -- do you think for her? Mind your own business.

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Lucynda
  Nov 19, 07, 19:06  #51

And it is not my "opinion" -- it is an actual post written by a real person who had an abortion. I didn't make it up. I am sharing it for a look at the other side. You can see dozens of posts like it ion post-abortion forums, but I know you won't look because you don't have the ba**s to change your own stubborn "opinion."

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Wroclaw
  Nov 19, 07, 19:07  #52

Quoting: PinkJewel
No Lucynda, I do not think this is helpful - just pushing an opinion really


I agree. And now is not the time for it.

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PinkJewel
  Nov 19, 07, 19:08  #53

I don't think it's helpful to May to have pushed on her, some opinions of people who have regretted an abortion. Her time is difficult enough!

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PinkJewel
  Nov 19, 07, 19:11  #54

Quoting: Lucynda
You can see dozens of posts like it ion post-abortion forums, but I know you won't look because you don't have the ba**s to change your own stubborn "opinion."


You have no clue about me or my life. My opinion is that any decision must be May's and I wouldn't even dream of shoving her in one direction or another like you with your crap "regret abortion" post!

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Lucynda
  Nov 19, 07, 19:27  #55

Quoting: PinkJewel
My opinion is that any decision must be May's

Quoting: PinkJewel
No Lucynda, I do not think this is helpful - just pushing an opinion really.


So it's okay for you to have an "opinion," but not me, eh? How fair and impartial of you.

As for my "crap regret abortion" post, all I can say is that it is real, and happened to a real person.

But perhaps you don't give a sh*t because the emotions expressed are not real for you, so therefore no one else should be exposed to its reality.

I posted it because I really care....about women, their feelings, about children. I'm a mother, and know what it is like to give life to a child. Do you? I've been in May's shoes. Have you?

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PinkJewel
  Nov 19, 07, 19:33  #56

Quoting: Lucynda
it's okay for you to have an "opinion," but not me, eh? How fair and impartial of you.


Hmm, but my opinion doesn't include a push towards one opinion...I offer support...

Quoting: Lucynda
As for my "crap regret abortion" post, all I can say is that it is real, and happened to a real person.


Maybe so but is not helpful here when replying to a girl who is confused, upset, worried, angry and is needing advice...

Quoting: Lucynda
But perhaps you don't give a sh*t because the emotions expressed are not real for you, so therefore no one else should be exposed to its reality.


You have no clue...I wouldn't reply unless I knew of some reality to what is posted.

Quoting: Lucynda
I posted it because I really care....about women, their feelings, about children. I'm a mother, and know what it is like to give life to a child. Do you? I've been in May's shoes. Have you?


I don't personally know what it's like to give life but I have been very closely involved in losing this precious life...you say you care, if you did, you wouldn't push one opinion forward you would support any decision made.

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PinkJewel
Edited by: PinkJewel  Nov 19, 07, 19:41  #57

May

most people here would like to help you and support you and I think you should pay attention to my original reply (#42) rather than some replies I have to make to another person and also to many replies from other members. We can help you while you are confused and worried and unhappy and scared...

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hello
  Nov 19, 07, 19:44  #58

Quoting: PinkJewel
I have been very closely involved in losing this precious life

So you and Lucynda have the same opinion on the fact that life is precious. I agree with you both. Argumentations why life is precious aren't that important, the fact that it's precious counts. So no need to fight about that.

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PinkJewel
  Nov 19, 07, 19:53  #59

Quoting: hello
life is precious.


It is, but I also can't be bothered with people who push anti-abortion...there are some, heart-wrenching reasons why abortion might apply. But if I was in the position of not knowing what to do, I wouldn't want some "opinion" for not having one shoved in my face.

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kuc671
  Nov 19, 07, 20:14  #60

Cheer up - if I know my mother, Polish parents can be quite forceful, if you manage to win them over... true Polish men can be quite loyal... and though Polish women at times need to fight to keep their men, generally they will step aside if they see that he has a child... ;)

1. Pray - it helps to keep focused and look at this as a joyous situation - trust me it'll be a wonderful experience and even your body will produce chemicals that any depressed people would give their right arm for! Sounds like there was a lot of passion...
2. Be friendly and keep in touch with him - he may feel different once the time goes by... and he realises that he's been "caught out" ;)
a. Polish women can be very nosy at times - ;) - can't hide things from them for long... :D
3. See if you can get to meet his parents (just so that you can tell the child a little about his/her ancestry)
4. Polish System is VERY firm on child-support payments if you can proved that he is the father of your child - as if the Irish/British (they have no problems deducting support directly from his salary) - and the child will be born a Polish citizen (if that's any consolation).

You know, my mum was married, but dad left her (and me) before I was 2 years old (he even wanted her to have an abortion - I'm glad she didn't listen to him! :D)... these days marriages can break up so readily - one feels completely shattered...
My mother brought me up - all by her lonesome self - and I loved her with all my heart for that gift and her sacrifice (except when I was a teenager! ;D)... I held her hand when she died in march this year and miss her "nagging" tremendously...
Take care and good luck.
Chris
kuc671@hotmail.com

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