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Prince Harry serving on front line in Afghanistan


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ShelleyS
  Mar 6, 08, 10:50  #31

krysia wrote:
Good. I hope they put him in a concentration camp.


Thats treason woman!


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AAG
  Mar 6, 08, 10:51  #32

ShelleyS wrote:
he's going to wear that one the next

pampers its sutable for him


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krysia
  Mar 6, 08, 10:53  #33

AAG wrote:
pampers its sutable for him

Huggies have a better fit.

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sledz
  Mar 6, 08, 10:53  #34

ShelleyS wrote:
Probably not, he's saving that to wear on his official royal visit to Poland :)


Hes the Dimwit that wore the uniform, it sounds like you should join him.

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ShelleyS
Edited by: ShelleyS  Mar 6, 08, 10:56  #35

AAG wrote:
pampers its sutable for him


?? WTF do you know him personally??? Im not a royalist but I actually like him...he's not plumby and he went into a war zone to do it bit for Queen and Country, what he was trained for... and the only reason he's not there now is because some fecking idiot yank thought it would be kool to put a video on the net and put lives at risk....He's done remarkably well considering what he's been through!


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Dzhaklin
  Mar 6, 08, 10:57  #36

Seriously though when he wore that uniform what was he thinking? I mean the English aren't well known for there humor so.... yea


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ShelleyS
  Mar 6, 08, 11:01  #37

Dzhaklin wrote:
I mean the English aren't well known for there humor


And the Polish are???

Dzhaklin wrote:
Seriously though when he wore that uniform what was he thinking


fancy dress? No?...Im damn sure he's not the first person to dress up at Adolf...


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Dzhaklin
  Mar 6, 08, 11:04  #38

ShelleyS wrote:
And the Polish are???


Not really.
ShelleyS wrote:
fancy dress? No?...Im damn sure he's not the first person to dress up at Adolf...


Yeah I know that but most people who have aren't a royal. I'm sure he's gotten his fair share of punishment for something like that thought so I'll stop talking about it but still it makes you wonder...


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polski_zyd
  Mar 6, 08, 11:05  #39

ShelleyS wrote:
And the Polish are???


You just don't understand our humour. ;) I don't get the "humour" of many English so-called comedians either.


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Wroclaw Boy
  Mar 7, 08, 04:29  #40

sledz wrote:
Hes the Dimwit that wore the uniform, it sounds like you should join him.

And I bet youve never made a mistake.


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ShelleyS
  Mar 7, 08, 05:34  #41

Wroclaw Boy wrote:
And I bet youve never made a mistake.


probably - but his mum definately did!


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sledz
  Mar 7, 08, 09:03  #42

ShelleyS wrote:
probably - but his mum definately did!

Well the best part of you dripped down youre daddys leg!

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ShelleyS
Edited by: ShelleyS  Mar 7, 08, 09:25  #43

sledz wrote:
Well the best part of you dripped down youre daddys leg!


Ya jealous? - You only wish you knew your daddy!


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tornado2007
  Mar 7, 08, 10:31  #44

Ok to get back on track, my view on Harry on the front line:

Do i respect him for doing it, yes of course, i respect all soldiers who serve their country.

Do i respect him anymore than my father or any other soldier who served/serves, No i don't , the thinkg about the military is that it brings people together from all walks of life to achieve a common goal, whatever that may be. It dosen't matter if your royalty or just out of prson. IN the MIlitary you are treated the same, your broken down then built back up.

While i respect Hary as an individual for going and serving his country i don't believe he deserves anymore or anyless credit than any of the boys in Afghanistan or anywhere else. The fact they made a documentary on him just slights at the rest of the guys who are still serving. Wow he did a ten week stint, why not do a documentary on a guy who has done his FULL 2 year tour!!!!.

What i'm saying is that in the military everybody is equal apart from ranking officers etc etc. There should be in no way descrimination either positive or negative unless there is an outstanding contribution or action taken by an individual on which he is presented with a medal or some sort of recognition. To be honest Harry did neither of the previous two things. He didn't run accross the sand dodging bullets to grenade a taliban position which was about to drop the rest of his team. No he just did what any soldier does and that is his job.

Whether or not he is royalty should not make one ounce of difference, The media hype has been and is wrong, what sort of message does that send to the normal squady serving in wherever they happen to be.


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Zgubiony
  Mar 7, 08, 10:37  #45

tornado2007 wrote:
He didn't run accross the sand dodging bullets to grenade a taliban position which was about to drop the rest of his team.


I give props to the spoiled boy too but they did have lots of footage of him playing around on his motorcycle :) maybe a few shots of him shooting his machine gun. Would they really put him through actual combat though?



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tornado2007
  Mar 7, 08, 10:40  #46

Zgubiony wrote:
Would they really put him through actual combat though?

you would certainly hope so, no preferential treatment i hope


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Shawn_H
Edited by: Shawn_H  Mar 7, 08, 10:41  #47

ShelleyS wrote:
some fecking idiot yank

I thought it was an Aussie site that broke the news, and was then picked up by some fecking idiot yank.

Either way, good on him for even landing on the ground over there. Makes a much better statement of him as a man than if he had of stayed at home, snuggling with his better half or playing polo the whole time.

Re: The part about the documentary crews: Sorry to say that when a soldier from main street Tyne Upon Wear is killed in the conflict, it will make the evening news, people will feel sorry for him and his family and move on with their lives. When a Royal, or some other celebrity goes, it is Big News. I remember there was some American Football Player who gave up a career to go and fight, he died, and a great deal of news was made of it on the national news in the states. But every day, Americans die, and it gets a mention that " # of American Soldiers Died today in ......" Next item.


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ShelleyS
  Mar 7, 08, 10:43  #48

Zgubiony wrote:
Would they really put him through actual combat though?


In short yes,

he had no extra protection whilst out there...he wanted to go, he trained for it, in that respect he is an ordinary guy just wanting to do the job he trained for.


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jones101
Edited by: jones101  Mar 7, 08, 10:49  #49

ShelleyS wrote:

he had no extra protection whilst out there


Come on now....

He was with a company of Ghurkas....not taking anything away from him as he seems like a great guy...but you would be pressed to find better body guards than that many Ghurkas in that setting.

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ShelleyS
  Mar 7, 08, 10:54  #50

jones101 wrote:
He was with a company of Gurhkas....not taking anything away from him as he seems like a great guy...but you would be pressed to find better body guards than that many Guhrkas in that setting.


They were the guys he was serving with....just happened to be Guhrkas ;-)


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Ranj
Edited by: Ranj  Mar 7, 08, 10:54  #51

Shawn_H wrote:
thought it was an Aussie site that broke the news, and was then picked up by some fecking idiot yank.

Originally it was, but we Yanks are to blame for all the wrong doing in the world, don't ya know?

I give kudos to Harry....I would not want to be under the microscope like he and his brother and their late, great mother (may she RIP) so I can't blame him for wanting to be just another guy in a squadron. My question though is why, if he really wanted normalcy, would he even agree to let media follow him around?

I just have to put the question out there....could this be a scapegoat created by the royal family to get their son back early?


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Shawn_H
Edited by: Shawn_H  Mar 7, 08, 10:56  #52

jones101 wrote:
a company of Gurhkas

Are Gurkhas better able to defend themselves against IED's?

Ranj wrote:
we Yanks are to blame for all the wrong doing in the world, don't ya know?


Yes, I am very well aware of that fact :-) !


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jones101
  Mar 7, 08, 10:56  #53

ShelleyS wrote:
They were the guys he was serving with....just happened to be Guhrkas ;-)


Yeah I am sure that was ENTIRELY a coincidence.

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Zgubiony
  Mar 7, 08, 10:57  #54

Ranj wrote:
Yanks are to blame for all the wrong doing in the world

Jealousy :)

Shelley- If here were in a dangerous area, he certainly wouldn't be zipping around in a tshirt, no helmet or gun on a motorcycle in the middle of the desert. Anyway, he's got sth over me because i'd never want to be in that hell hole.



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jones101
Edited by: jones101  Mar 7, 08, 11:00  #55

Shawn_H wrote:
Are Gurkhas better able to defend themselves against IED's?


IEDs are not a threat at a fixed base that is fed by helicopters.

And honestly...I have worked with Ghurkas and I wouldn't doubt if they were "explosive proof" ;)

Again I will say I have respect for the young man...I know if it was up to him he would be completely immersed in the war like his buddies...but it is naive to think anyone with power would let him hang it all the way out.

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Shawn_H
  Mar 7, 08, 11:01  #56

So did he ever make it on the ground, outside the wire?


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sledz
  Mar 7, 08, 11:03  #57

Zgubiony wrote:
If here were in a dangerous area, he certainly wouldn't be zipping around in a tshirt, no helmet or gun on a motorcycle in the middle of the desert


Thats because its total propaganda

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jones101
Edited by: jones101  Mar 7, 08, 11:04  #58

sledz wrote:

Thats because its total propaganda


Nonsense...while there was for sure PR involved saying it was TOTAL propaganda is not fair to him. Unless you have been there and know what he did you really cannot judge. It is clear he acted as a Forward Air Controller and called in air strikes...if he wasn't doing it another officer would have been so he was doing his job.


There was footage of him patrolling but we will never know how much was real and how much was PR set up.

From the interviews it sounds like he spent most of his time in a fixed base as a forward air controller.

He mentioned he wanted to get into it more but that he knew his presence drew fire and attention on his mates. I admire his maturity to be aware of that and not endanger others for glory. Of course if nobody even knew he was there he could have done whatever...but the idiot media decided a good story was more important that security.

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Ranj
  Mar 7, 08, 11:10  #59

jones101 wrote:
but the idiot media decided a good story was more important that security.

Again, though, my question is why would media even be allowed there if they were so worried about security? The way the media is portrayed, especially on this forum, they can't be trusted, so why take the risk in letting them in to begin with?


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jones101
Edited by: jones101  Mar 7, 08, 11:21  #60

Ranj wrote:
The way the media is portrayed, especially on this forum, they can't be trusted, so why take the risk in letting them in to begin with?


The media in general CANNOT be trusted as is clear...they believe the 'story' is the most important thing and that people have a right to know everything no matter who it puts at risk.

To address your question about why they were there...a camera crew (who had agreed to wait airing the video) was there for PR and this was to be released after he was safely home at the end of his full tour. Once the story that he was there was leaked (not by the crew with him) then they had nothing to gain by holding the video because the secret was out so they released it to cash in on the 'big story'.

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