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Prince Harry serving on front line in Afghanistan


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Ranj
  Mar 7, 08, 11:28  #61

jones101 wrote:
a camera crew (who had agreed to wait airing the video) was there for PR and this was to be released after he was safely home at the end of his full tour. Once the story that he was there was leaked (not by the crew with him)



"his deployment was kept under wraps in a deal between the British media and the Ministry of Defence".....obviously, someone from the British media or the MoD leaked it out, otherwise, how did foreign press get a hold of it?


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sledz
  Mar 7, 08, 11:32  #62

Ranj wrote:
someone from the British media or the MoD leaked it out,

Of course its all show......

I bet the little spoiled Nazi hasnt work 1 day in his entire life

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jones101
Edited by: jones101  Mar 7, 08, 11:33  #63

Obviously? SO it couldn't have been anyone in his family...any friend...any military member looking for a quick buck?

Where the leak came from is one issue...the press exposing it to the public is another.

sledz wrote:
I bet the little spoiled Nazi hasnt work 1 day in his entire life


I am sure you have never seen war...so what you say bout what he did there is irrelevant.

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sledz
  Mar 7, 08, 11:38  #64

jones101 wrote:
am sure you have never seen war...so what you say bout what he did there is irrelevant

and you are the authority on the subject of war?

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jones101
Edited by: jones101  Mar 7, 08, 11:39  #65

Nope but I guarantee I know more about it than you. If you had any idea what it was like you could never had said such things about a guy that clearly did his job there...

It's easy to make such callous statements from the comfort of your warm home. Put your feet on the ground and march in their shoes and then you can comment with validity.

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Ranj
Edited by: Ranj  Mar 7, 08, 11:43  #66

jones101 wrote:
Where the leak came from is one issue...the press exposing it to the public is another.

That's my whole point.....given the security risk, there should never have been an agreement to begin with....the media should not have been there or told about it....just my opinion.

jones101 wrote:
SO it couldn't have been anyone in his family...any friend...any military member looking for a quick buck?

I seriously doubt any friend or family member is going to "leak" it out....if it was another military member (though I doubt becuase they would be putting themselves at risk), then it still came ultimately came from the UK....


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sledz
Edited by: sledz  Mar 7, 08, 11:43  #67

jones101 wrote:
clearly did his job there...

you must be blind not to see through this.

FYI.........I spent 4 years in the Army and I dont believe any of it.

Let the little rich kid play with guns while the camera is rolling

He is so disrespectfull twords his own country its sad how you ppl eat this crap up

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jones101
Edited by: jones101  Mar 7, 08, 11:46  #68

Ranj wrote:
That's my whole point.....given the security risk, there should never have been an agreement to begin with....the media should not have been there or told about it....just my opinion.


I agree on that part...nobody should have known.

sledz wrote:
you must be blind not to see through this.


Let's just say I know people and things that you don't and have been places you have not. I trust my own eyes and colleagues more than your opinion.

Unless you have served in Afghanistan with the Brits yourself...then I will concede you have an opinion worth listening to.

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tornado2007
  Mar 7, 08, 11:49  #69

i just can't believe you lot are worried about security risks etc. Just because he is a prince, what about the security risk for all of the soldiers, everybody bleeds everybody can be killed.

It should not matter who the guy is nobody should be put at risk on purpose or at least the risk should be minimised where possible.

The army, Marines, Navy, SAS, SBS whatever you like isn't about the individual its about the team & the mission and the objectives to complete that mission and thats how it should stay.


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Ranj
  Mar 7, 08, 11:52  #70

tornado2007 wrote:
i just can't believe you lot are worried about security risks etc. Just because he is a prince, what about the security risk for all of the soldiers, everybody bleeds everybody can be killed.

Uhhh, that's the whole point of this thread, Tornado.....the fact that his presence is not only a security risk to himself, but to those he is serving with.


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tornado2007
  Mar 7, 08, 11:54  #71

Ranj wrote:
the fact that his presence is not only a security risk to himself, but to those he is serving with.

why is it more of a security risk, what becuase 40 commando will be targeted heavier??? the taliban will attack anyway it depends on the movement of our troops. Contact will happen and on a daily basis, soldiers are trained and prepared for those kind of situations its nothing new to them.

Its a security risk been out there, lol, you could get the chop and anytime.


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jones101
Edited by: jones101  Mar 7, 08, 11:55  #72

ANd that his presence is ONLY a risk if it is known. If he was there anonymously it wouldn't have changed anything in the big picture. He is a Soldier and should be allowed to do his job without the circus.

Tornado do you really think that if the bad guys knew where he was they would not make a strong effort to get him? think of the PR from their end. SO yeah it does endanger the lives of his comrades more than normally if his location is known.

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Seanus
  Mar 7, 08, 13:01  #73

He could be used as a pawn though. Ambush and all that. Lure the enemy and let them have it. The truth, as I see it though, is that the hardcore terrorists are hiding in places that the Allies will never get near. All this talk of cutting back on troop numbers or pulling out completely shows the divided nature of the struggle. Let's see some stats to show that the war is being fought efficaciously


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jones101
  Mar 7, 08, 13:04  #74

Why would they put him at risk as a pawn when they could just SAY he is there.

And I will tell you this...the warfighters could be more effective if they were allowed to do things their way. Politicians are mucking it up as they always do and have always done.

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Seanus
  Mar 7, 08, 13:12  #75

Then the war lacks credibility. OK, they could just say he was in location X, that'd be better. The problem is that it isn't always clear who the enemy is, a guessing game is taking place. Jones101, could u be sure of finding ur target in such a struggle? The politicians talk a good game but I question the overall commitment to gunning down real terrorists


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jones101
Edited by: jones101  Mar 7, 08, 13:16  #76

Seanus wrote:
Jones101, could u be sure of finding ur target in such a struggle?


Can you clarify the situation you mean? If you are talking about Harry for example...just the knowledge that he was in a location would bring them to you...you could just plant the idea.

If you mean who is the good guy and who is the bad guy...there is a pretty good job of that being done. The rare 'friendly fire' incidents that occur are close air support and bombing.

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Seanus
  Mar 7, 08, 13:35  #77

It's not like the Taliban wear red football tops and are instantly recognisable. To me anyway, they all look very similar and their radical Islamic shouts are hardly gonna be understood by the Allies. Some innocent supporters of Islam could easily be mistaken as being terrorists.


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jones101
  Mar 7, 08, 13:36  #78

Ahh I see what you meant.

Well...a good rule of thumb is if they are shooting at you or planting IEDs and EFPs then they are the bad guys.

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Seanus
  Mar 7, 08, 13:46  #79

Agreed!!


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MrAmerica
  Mar 15, 08, 12:57  #80

He joined the army just to get away from his mother.

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_Sofi_ [Guest]
  Mar 15, 08, 13:00  #81

MrAmerica wrote:
He joined the army just to get away from his mother.

She was...haunting him? :S

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MrAmerica
Edited by: MrAmerica  Mar 15, 08, 13:04  #82

Actually, he was wondering how they got the women to cover thier faces, he wants her to cover her own so he can keep his breakfast down when she's sitting across the table from him. Bloody ugly sight so early in the day!

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isthatu
  Mar 15, 08, 19:30  #83

erm,his mothers dead,muppet,and his father retired from the life Guards now makes a penny or two in TV guest spots.


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Wroclaw
  Mar 15, 08, 19:36  #84

isthatu wrote:
and his father retired from the life Guards now makes a penny or two in TV guest spots.


LOL


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Seanus
  Mar 15, 08, 19:46  #85

Yeah, 1997 she died. Mick Jagger once sang and asked, 'Who wants yesterdays' papers?'. Clearly MrAmerica needs them. And b4 u say it wasn't yesterday MrAmerica, we don't always literally mean yesterday but use it to refer to past time


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krysia
  Mar 15, 08, 21:04  #86

isthatu wrote:
his mothers dead

The biological one is dead, but now he has an ugly step-mother.

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osiol
Edited by: osiol  Mar 15, 08, 21:10  #87

And to those people who say she looks like a horse, I say: Go and look at a real horse and then apologise to that horse.


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Seanus
  Mar 16, 08, 06:35  #88

And Osioł knows as this is his territory. Camilla Painful-Bowels is an abomination, she had all at OUP thinking how to come up with an adjective that outdoes hideous.

She tries to be dedicated to Charles but it may be a case of 'ear today, gone tomorrow'


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