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Putin says, "poking their snotty Polish noses" into Russia's affairs?


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celinski
  Nov 30, 07, 07:24  #1

It is Friday and I had to read this twice, Is name calling really called for? Can Pres. Putin be put in time out until he says his, "I'm sorry's"? Not that Pres. Bush is able to speak proper English all the time, and I still LOL when I think of his usage of the word "evil do'ers". Come on Pres. Putin it is cold season. LOL

Carol

Vladimir Putin accused the US on Monday of attempting to damage the credibility of Russia's parliamentary elections by putting pressure on the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) not to monitor the polls next Sunday.

http://ft.onet.pl/0,4111,putin_blames_us_for_osce_poll_boycott,artykul _ft.html


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z_darius
  Nov 30, 07, 07:50  #2

Quoting: celinski
Is name calling really called for?

It's not likte this would be the first time it's done. And that happens on both sides of the (reinstated?) iron curtain.

Remember Reagan's "Empire Of Evil" speech in 1982?


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isthatu
  Nov 30, 07, 07:59  #3

To the naughty step for the lot of 'em. Why are senior politicians and 7 year olds in the playground so alike :)
"My daddies got more missiles than your daddy!"
" Well my daddy is in the KGB,so ner.."


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celinski
  Nov 30, 07, 08:04  #4

I know it just seems sooo... immature I had to LOL. Kind of hard to live up to the standards. Silly silly leaders. Carol


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z_darius
  Nov 30, 07, 08:08  #5

The whole idea of politics seems immature.
There is the old adage that the smaller man's penis the larger vehicle he will drive.
Now imagine the complexes the politicians and their armed forces suffer from :)

Putin


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isthatu
  Nov 30, 07, 08:13  #6

Quoting: z_darius
There is the old adage that the smaller man's penis the larger vehicle he will drive

Crikey,no wonder Mr Bean is always smilling :)


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celinski
  Nov 30, 07, 09:11  #7

LOL I
Quoting: z_darius
the smaller man's penis the larger vehicle he will drive



I have heard that before. I wonder how many VW's will be up for sale after this post. lol

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jonni
  Nov 30, 07, 10:57  #8

Quoting: z_darius
There is the old adage that the smaller man's penis the larger vehicle he will drive.


Quite true! Bow ties are apparently another sign of the same, and somebody once told me baseball caps also! :-))

But Putin, however awful, however many elections he rigs, however many ex-KGB agents he kills by putting poison in their tea in London, no matter how many Chechens he slaughters; enjoys massive popular support. The Russians love him, and I suppose for him that's the most important thing.

The worry is, as his power grows, he might start putting economic and political pressure on neighbours like Poland - which after all was within Russia's sphere of influence for repeatedly and for centuries.

Somebody should stop this guy.


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z_darius
  Nov 30, 07, 11:05  #9

Quoting: jonni
The Russians love him, and I suppose for him that's the most important thing.

I don't think they love Putin. They love their own nationalism. When you dig into what's happening in Russia now (Putinjugend for instance) you'll see really few difference between 1930" Germany and today's Russia (corrected by different global realities)


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celinski
  Nov 30, 07, 11:11  #10

Quoting: jonni
The Russians love him,


There is an off topic on how they feel about him but as you know they just arrest anyone that puts him down so we have to catch them between jail time. I will check back on the link because I don't think they love him as much as he loves himself. Oh and I don't think I have seen him in a bow tie but his feet are rather small. LOL Carol


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eric_the_nave
  Nov 30, 07, 16:23  #11

Quoting: z_darius
There is the old adage that the smaller man's penis the larger vehicle he will drive.


I don't have a car. I ride a pushbike..........

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Foreigner4
  Nov 30, 07, 16:41  #12

despite Putin well, being Putin, it is difficult to argue that an organization meant to deal with pan european issues should be so influenced (and have as member states) by countries which are clearly not part of europe.

The US denied that it was "plotting" with the OSCE over the watchdog's decision not to send monitors to the poll, while seeking to play down Mr Putin's comments.

"Our message to the OSCE was that it was their decision and their decision alone. The OSCE decided not to go because they felt as though the Russian government was putting up obstacles and roadblocks to their doing their job," said Sean McCormack, a US state department spokesman.

The US involvement = dodgey by virtue of it being US involment.

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plk123
  Nov 30, 07, 19:06  #13

Quoting: z_darius
When you dig into what's happening in Russia now (Putinjugend for instance) you'll see really few difference between 1930" Germany and today's Russia (corrected by different global realities)

that's interesting.. i think that's what is happening in the US too. kind of scary..


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plk123
  Nov 30, 07, 19:22  #14

Quoting: Foreigner4
OSCE over the watchdog's decision not to send monitors to the poll,

this makes no sense to me.. why wouldn't we all want them to watch over the russian ellections.. they will be fixed now for sure.


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celinski
  Nov 30, 07, 21:55  #15

Quoting: Foreigner4
an organization meant to deal with pan european issues should be so influenced (and have as member states) by countries which are clearly not part of europe.

Instead of excluding when are you going to understand we are one nation. Russia wants in they just don't want the rules. Can you imagine how far Russia's people could go if they were not ruled by a "Stalin" wanna be. The people can't even protest without being put in jail. Who owns Russia anyway, Putin Corparation or the people.

Quoting: Foreigner4
seeking to play down Mr Putin's comments.

you critisize if they react or if they ignor.. no win huh


Quoting: Foreigner4
Russian government was putting up obstacles and roadblocks to their doing their job


didn't want the blame as is closer to the truth.


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Foreigner4
  Dec 1, 07, 11:50  #16

Quoting: celinski
Instead of excluding when are you going to understand we are one nation. Russia wants in they just don't want the rules. Can you imagine how far Russia's people could go if they were not ruled by a "Stalin" wanna be. The people can't even protest without being put in jail. Who owns Russia anyway, Putin Corparation or the people.


I was referring to the fact that the US is actually a member of those 56 member states. Besides the article and your post don't seem to be about Putin's misbehaviour at home but his opinion of the decision made by OSCE.

Regarding your other quotes: Ummmm, good job i guess but why did you quote my reference from the article link you provided? Did you even read it yourself?

Quoting: celinski
Quoting: Foreigner4
seeking to play down Mr Putin's comments.

you critisize if they react or if they ignor.. no win huh




Quoting: celinski
Quoting: Foreigner4
Russian government was putting up obstacles and roadblocks to their doing their job


didn't want the blame as is closer to the truth.


again not my criticism, it came from the link you provided. If you have an arguement i have to apologize because i have no idea what your response was directed at.

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Foreigner4
  Dec 1, 07, 11:55  #17

plk 123:
oh, hmmm, no, i didn't mean to intimate their absence is a good thing, i'm just saying it's not out of the question that them being a no-show at the elections was due to back room politics American style.

I agree with having impartial observers but I do question how impartial the OSCE can be when there is such a north american influence on what ought to be a european issue.

agree to disagree if you like

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plk123
  Dec 1, 07, 12:41  #18

Quoting: Foreigner4
plk 123:
oh, hmmm, no, i didn't mean to intimate their absence is a good thing, i'm just saying it's not out of the question that them being a no-show at the elections was due to back room politics American style.

I agree with having impartial observers but I do question how impartial the OSCE can be when there is such a north american influence on what ought to be a european issue.

agree to disagree if you like

i was really more wondering why the US wouldn't want the observers in russia.. i think shrubco made everything funky.. in the past and i hope in the future the interests of the people who are effected is what US politicians consider if they are going to influence anybody. so, american influence could be good but right now it is not trustworthy as behind the carrot is most likely a gun.


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celinski
  Dec 1, 07, 13:07  #19

Quoting: plk123
it is not trustworthy



I see President Putin running his people as a communist country. Therefore, USA infuence may be the power they lack to stand up for themselves as the rightful owners of Russia. Maybe human rights within Russia will guard the people that want change from getting locked up everytime they try to voice how they feel? Without the power trip Putin is on, Russia could work with the nation would grow 10 fold.

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celinski
  Dec 1, 07, 13:25  #20

Quoting: Foreigner4
again not my criticism, it came from the link you provided. If you have an arguement i have to apologize because i have no idea what your response was directed at.

You are right I was trying to write and do something else at the same time., I was not done and must have sent without finishing. Sorry, Cad


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joepilsudski
  Dec 1, 07, 14:24  #21

Putin is a strong leader who wants to build and maintain a strong Russia, for the Russian people...the reason why he is feared & vilified in the West is that he has refused to let certain 'foreign' elements maintain control over Russia's economy and foreign policy...Poland could use a strong leader like Putin, but he would be rejected as
'totalitarian' because Poland is more 'westernized'...also, Putin has nuclear weapons, which are a strong deterrent to Russia's enemies,and, finally, great natural resources in
oil, gas & minerals...when I hear Western criticisms of Putin, I just look at the degenerate governments & media spouting this, and the picture becomes more clear.

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lesser
Edited by: lesser  Dec 1, 07, 16:49  #22

Quoting: celinski
Putin says, "poking their snotty noses" into Russia's affairs?


Aren't they? The fact that Putin doing the same to other countries is other thing. I support Vladimir Bukovsky by the way.


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Foreigner4
  Dec 2, 07, 05:11  #23

joepilsudski objectively analyzed and broadcasted the "correct" with his last post.

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celinski
  Dec 2, 07, 09:49  #24

Quoting: joepilsudski
Putin is a strong leader


I hear ya. And President Bush on the other hand thinks life is one big party. LOL Carol




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joepilsudski
  Dec 3, 07, 13:25  #25

You must remember what happened to Russia after the fall of communism...the country was put up for sale by/and for certain 'oligarchs'...the US aided and profitted from this
looting thru such organizations as the Harvard Endowement, which is a CIA front, and of
course the so-called 'Illuminati' which includes the Rothschilds/Rockefellers etc. also made a nifty profit...Putin is VERY aware of who looted Russia, and, since Russia has now seemingly straightened itself out financially, due mostly to Putin & his boys, he is not swallowing any ********.

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plk123
  Dec 3, 07, 13:43  #26

so, who was surprised that putin's cronies "won" the election? lol


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slick77
  Dec 3, 07, 13:46  #27

Russians can conduct their own affairs as they as they like. If they want to have Putin as their leader, why not let them?

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plk123
  Dec 3, 07, 13:59  #28

so attacking of their neighbours is cool? afterall it would be conducting their affairs as they wish. no?


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slick77
  Dec 3, 07, 14:07  #29

Quoting: plk123
so attacking of their neighbours is cool?


What do you mean by "attacking" ? Do you mean a military attack? They haven't attacked anybody recently, have they?

A diplomatic attack? I don't recall any unprovoked attacks either.

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plk123
  Dec 3, 07, 14:18  #30

Quoting: slick77
What do you mean by "attacking" ? Do you mean a military attack? They haven't attacked anybody recently, have they?

and that's the key word. let's wait and see then.. it did us a lot of good with hitler.

besdies i don't think all russians just love putin. that's what the government press want everyone to believe though. i don't buy their propaganda however.


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