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Racist attack against Poles via Polish language


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Puzzler
Edited by: Moderator  Oct 8, 07, 02:28  #1

Under the following internet address: claritaslux.com/blog/2007/04/22/the-hardest-language-to-lea rn I found the following - should I call it article - by a type using the nick 'markbiernat.' He claims he's an American who speaks Polish and loves the language too! Wow, if it's love, then you don't need the word 'hate', do you?

Among the comments, some of them as stupid and nasty as the 'article,' I found the following one:

michalPL said,
September 20, 2007 @ 8:49 am

3-5% polish ppl can use proper polish language It’s true!'

- Is the 'michalPL' that pretends to be an Englishman,
haunting this forum?
:)

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ukpolska
  Oct 8, 07, 03:03  #2

Quoting: Puzzler
3-5% polish ppl can use proper polish language It’s true!'

What is he meant to shock anyone by this (if it is him)... You go to any country and if you can understand the language, you will find it is bastardised in some way. Even in the UK, some people from the south will have troubles understanding northern people speaking and I am not talking about dialect here. :O)


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Michal
  Oct 8, 07, 04:28  #3

Some years ago, I watched a television programme from Newcastle where they were interviewing young Geordies from Newcastle and even with my well trained ear to understand the English Language it was almost like trying to understand another language like Dutch but simply through the English Language. And no, I have never heard of Michalpl, I am not even Polish at all.

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Kilkline
  Oct 8, 07, 07:17  #4

Saying Polish is difficult to learn is racist?


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ukpolska
  Oct 8, 07, 07:22  #5

Quoting: Kilkline
Saying Polish is difficult to learn is racist?

What the hell are you talking about ????

Please explain :O)


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Kilkline
  Oct 8, 07, 07:26  #6

It was a question. Why is the article offensive?


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ukpolska
  Oct 8, 07, 07:27  #7

According to your post "Brits and Poles - can't we all just... get along?"
Why on earth would you put that post here?
It seems that all you want to do is to stirrup problems between our two countries???
Double standards or goldfish memory it seems to me :O)





(Be careful with what you post, it could come round and bite you on the azz)


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Kilkline
  Oct 8, 07, 07:30  #8

I dont understand? What have I said previously that contradicts a question regarding the complexity of Polish?


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ukpolska
Edited by: ukpolska  Oct 8, 07, 07:38  #9

Ok maybe it is the structure of your sentence and an honest mistake :O)
Saying Polish is difficult to learn is racist?

I cannot understand that, a person who finds it difficult to learn Polish is a racist.
Seems a bit of sweeping generalisation to me :O)


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Kilkline
  Oct 8, 07, 07:43  #10

I still dont know what you're talking about. What I said was a question not a statement, hence the question mark at the end.
I'm confused as to why Puzzler seems to think that this article is offensive as all it says is that Polish is difficult to learn. How is that an attack on Poles?


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ukpolska
  Oct 8, 07, 07:49  #11

Ok it's my missunderstanding. Apologies :O)


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Kilkline
  Oct 8, 07, 07:57  #12

No problem. This whole thread has confused me, I'm going for a lie-down.


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isthatu
  Oct 8, 07, 13:54  #13

puzzler,chill baby chill. Most of my Polish mates said the same to me,"dont worry about getting all the grammer right as most of us dont" ,are they being rascist(or your buzzword,polonophobic) ? I think they are just being polite and trying to make people learning a new and difficult language feel a bit better about themselves,hardly a crim is it?


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AmirahJanowitz [Guest]
  Oct 9, 07, 01:04  #14

I agree with puzzler people stop making fun of the Polish people and language.
the Polish language is the most beautiful language in the world I am learning Polish hope to speak it well. too all who make fun of Poles do not bother going on this forum, they are good people.all Poles are welcome to Las Vegas.

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Kilkline
  Oct 9, 07, 04:00  #15

Quoting: AmirahJanowitz
I agree with puzzler people stop making fun of the Polish people and language.
the Polish language is the most beautiful language in the world I am learning Polish hope to speak it well. too all who make fun of Poles do not bother going on this forum,


Yeah, you're all just big bullys!


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wildrover
  Oct 9, 07, 05:00  #16

Quoting: Kilkline
Polish is difficult to learn.


I agree ..Polish is difficult to learn , but before anyone jumps down my throat , thats not an attack on Poland or its people...Polish is a very beautifull and colorfull language , and if i am to have a life here , then its something i have to do....I have to say tho , that some of my closest friends here are people that i can,t have a conversation with , but we are friends just the same....Sometimes what is in your heart can be comunicated without words......


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Kilkline
  Oct 9, 07, 05:03  #17

Quoting: wildrover
Sometimes what is in your heart can be comunicated without words......


I bet you use that line in all the nightclubs.


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wildrover
  Oct 9, 07, 05:06  #18

I would if i thought it would work......


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Michal
  Oct 9, 07, 09:05  #19

Quoting: AmirahJanowitz
the Polish language is the most beautiful language in the world I am learning Polish hope to speak it well. too

To be honest though, it is a waste of time as it is a minority language and is already in the throws of dying out now. The levels of emigration are so high that Poland is now devoid of a youth culture and no society can survive for very long. I was in Radom some time ago, and I was told how quiet the streets are now, even on a Saturday-literally everyone who could had left the country and I very much doubt if any will return. One reason why I would not live there, after all, if millions are leaving each year, giving up jobs running building firms ect. to work in a hospital as a cleaner for £5 per hour and offered a roof over their heads, there must be something seriously wrong with the place!

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Zgubiony
  Oct 9, 07, 09:08  #20

Quoting: Michal
To be honest though, it is a waste of time as it is a minority language and is already in the throws of dying out now

In YOUR opinion it's a waste of time. So what if she want's to learn. I want to as well....we all have our own reasons for wanting to do things Mike.



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Grzegorz_
Edited by: Moderator  Oct 9, 07, 09:09  #21

don't you understand that you only make idiot of yourself ? If you want to **** of people here then try to be at least half serious.


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Kilkline
  Oct 9, 07, 09:09  #22

Quoting: Michal
I was in Radom some time ago, and I was told how quiet the streets are now


This sentence doesnt make sense. If you were in Poland 'sometime ago' i.e. 20 years, how can you know the streets are quiet 'now'.


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Michal
  Oct 9, 07, 09:15  #23

Because I was not in Radom twenty years ago. Did I say that I was in Radom twenty years ago?

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Kilkline
  Oct 9, 07, 09:22  #24

Quoting: Michal
Because I was not in Radom twenty years ago. Did I say that I was in Radom twenty years ago?


Ah, so when was the last time you were in Poland?


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Michal
  Oct 9, 07, 09:44  #25

Quoting: Zgubiony
wanting to do things Mike.

Yes, I understand that and it is a challenge but on the other hand, it is not worth wasting huge amounts of time and energy on something which will pay out zero dividends.

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Kilkline
  Oct 9, 07, 09:46  #26

Quoting: Kilkline
Quoting: Michal
Because I was not in Radom twenty years ago. Did I say that I was in Radom twenty years ago?


Ah, so when was the last time you were in Poland?


I mean, you've said previously that you havent been in Poland for 20 years (approx), so you can see why what you say could be misunderstood? However I'm sure theres a perfectly simple explanation that would clear this up.


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Zgubiony
  Oct 9, 07, 09:58  #27

Quoting: Michal
it is not worth wasting huge amounts of time and energy on something which will pay out zero dividends

This is still your opinion. It pays in different ways for different people. for ex. it would make my GF and her family happy and that would make my situation better...that's one way of paying off. Who says you need to learn it for making money.



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Michal
  Oct 9, 07, 10:38  #28

Quoting: Zgubiony
that's one way of paying off. Who says you need to learn it for making money.

Nobody would learn money to make money. Who talked about money?

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Kilkline
  Oct 9, 07, 10:56  #29

Quoting: Kilkline
Quoting: Kilkline
Quoting: Michal
Because I was not in Radom twenty years ago. Did I say that I was in Radom twenty years ago?


Ah, so when was the last time you were in Poland?


I mean, you've said previously that you havent been in Poland for 20 years (approx), so you can see why what you say could be misunderstood? However I'm sure theres a perfectly simple explanation that would clear this up.


**sound of the wind blowing, a bit of tumbleweed rolls past**


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Puzzler
  Oct 10, 07, 02:45  #30

re: copy & pasting articles is not allowed

- Why not? Oh boy.

re: Name calling IS prohibited

- Defending the Polonophobic racist thing calling itself 'Michal'? I can see it has more rights on this - Polish, hehehe! - forum than e.g. myself. Why don't you kick me out of here, bigot? The more so as I've just posted a bit on killing of a Pole in Ireland. It should not be to your taste, bigot.
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