What is the reason for POLISH jokes ?

I am wondering what the reasons might be, for jokes about Polish people ? We've all heard jokes like: "How many Polish people does it take to screw in a lightbulb ?" or something similar, that suggests Polish people are lacking in intelligence.

I never understood why Polish people are looked at in this manner. I've always known most Polish people to be good people. People who take pride in their jobs, family, church, homes....and work hard to create better opportunities for their children.

Seems like society has created some stereotypes for a lot of different ethnic backgrounds. Some good....some not so good. Some EXAMPLES: Jews are often looked upon as money mizers, Irish sometimes as drunks, Mexicans sometimes as FAT....stupid & lazy, but I would disagree, because just look at all the Mexicans that work very hard in the fields in America, picking crops that most people don't want to pick. Blacks as good dancers (good stereotype) or sometimes not very good with managing money...paying bills (negative stereotype).

I read somewhere that during the German invasion of Poland at the start of World War II, the Germans rolled in to Poland in TANKS, while Polish troops tried to fend them off on horseback. The article claimed this was 1 basis for sterotype. I remember a nice old Polish lady down the street, when I was a kid.......who used to keep her front yard immaculately clean. She would even walk up and down the street, with a broom....sweeping where needed. Sounds a bit odd, but she took great pride in her neighborhood. We used to chuckle as kids. Surely stories about old Polish ladies sweeping entire streets can't be the reason. So tell me, what is the REAL REASON for THE POLISH JOKES !

A Polish man told me that Polish jokes started in America because the Polish immigrants who came here were those who didn't know how to read or write. I don't know how true that is.

You will find all the answears in this topic:

http://www.polishforums.com/dealing_constant_insults_against-4_1897_0. html

>how Polish have small penises

Ha, that's easily disproved.

well... i just gotta take your word on that...

Minorities get jokes made about them - it's just an extension of play ground bullying.

It's not fair, it's ungrounded but it's life

What does "to go Polack" mean? I mean, did he just make that up or is that a common saying? It sounds like to "go Postal", which means to go crazy. It was created after postal workers all over the US began shooting people at their work places for no reason.

true

Well in US Jews don't like Poles

They started polish jokes because Poles coldn`t defend themselfs. They were living behind "iron curtain" for long time and there was no freedom of speach. Now it is a different story. And everyone can see, that idiots are everywhere. And I mean people who tell polish (?) jokes.
P.S. Some people call these jokes german, italian, canadian, russian etc.

Ah lads - how about the irishman jokes? its the same thing - though today, most people tht tell the irishman jokes are irish

paddy irishman, paddy englishman and paddy scots man....(it usually starts - but the key is the dumbest paddy (nick for irishman) is always paddy irishman!)

Its just a bit of fun in our case and we dont take it seriously. but in some cases, sure, it is ignorant and can be hurtful (im speaking now about the posts above in reference to Polish jokes)

But i think if the polish can laugh at themselves, these jokes wont be so malicious

This is just such a remark that gets the ball rolling and becomes a stereotype. Not ALL US Jews hate Poles.
Polish jokes probably began by a person with a dislike or bias towards Polish people.
I have heard the same jokes told about other ethnicities, just insert the nationality you have a bias against.

Thats very true, but thats how all things that are negative get started.

They didn't know how to read or write in English. They could read and write perfectly in Polish, in most cases, but sadly many (not all) Americans think that if you can't do something the American way you are stupid.

You have no idea how much $hit I get from people because my name is not spelled the English way. They think my parents were retarded, but then after I explain everything they feel retarded because they just then realised that not everyone in the world speaks English.


They get that because of the evil Smith's company. They created "lil smokies" and suddenly everyone from Poland eats small sausage and has a small penis. Throw down some sausage straight from the home country and they don't know wtf it is.


Too true...


Most jokes about Polish people started as war propoganda. Nazis started saying Poles were stupid and etc. Then one time we charged tanks with horses and swords according to some idiots.

ive never heard joke like that but is 8 inch small? ;/

If you're Polish.....



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ehm ye I am but I dont live in Poland so nothing to be ashamed of...

Don't live in a Polish neighborhood.


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Have any of you been to a real polish party, where everybody is polish? There is always at least one person who can tell jokes, big time, a comedian wannabe...Ah, the jokes you could hear then! And, yes - they are mostly "substitute any nationality" jokes and a lot of regional polish jokes. You have to know the region to really get the joke. The few polish jokes i heard are mostly really stupid and shallow, some malicious with no sense. It makes me think they came from 'polonophobe" :) and they are just made up.

Ethnic jokes are a political tool. The mechanism is simple:

Most people have sympathy for the oppressed but few have sympathy for fools. Since the West took most of its information from German sources (until a few years after WW2 that included history "studies" of Poland) so this is not surprising. Polish jokes in the US are mainly of German origin too. The second largest (at one time) ethnicity in the US were Germans, aka Pennsylvania Dutch (which is really English/American inability to tell Deutsch from Dutch) were at the root of the jokes.

After WW2 Polish jokes were perpetuated eagerly by... Polish Jews. Their struggle for the sympathy of the World is no secret (see The American Holocaust by Kent Kelly, or Ellie Wiesel's approach to Gypsies' plight during WW2), so jokes were a logical choice that helped put Poland as a country to be ridiculed rather than helped and sympathised with.

Similar scenario occured in the UK, where Irish and Scottish jokes presented the Irish and Scotts as fools and drunks, rather as those who were dominated by invading English forces.

There.

this is what I was told ......

Americans make jokes of Poles, the same way English make jokes of the Iriish !

I'm part Slovakian, we get jokes about being a dumb "hunkie" etc. At lleast my grandfather did, especially in Cleveland. He had a good job though. Solution : Who gives a damn, get over it. You have a lot of Nobel winners , right?

Actually, you don't hear dumb Polack jokes as much any more, seemed like it was more prevalent in the 70's and 80's.

The Irish get it worse maybe, but they think it's funny when people compare them to being drunk a lot. Guiness actually had a St. Pat's commercial where 20 somethings wake up on St. Pats day and open presents of booze as if it was Christmas with green wrapping paper. This was a national campaign and there was no backlash.

Yes, good insightful post..

The English don't like anybody, but they're usually kind of passive aggressive about it. When I went to Europe and rode the trains I would meet Germans , Austrians, Italians, Aussies and they would chat me up. (Italians , Aussies were the most friendly though, joke around a lot). Not the English though. Haha..They don't hate anybody as much as the Americans nowadays.

However, I don't think they like themselves that much either. Oh well, life goes on.

did you hear the one about the ww2 polish tank. it had six gears and they all go in reverse.

boom tish, I am hear all night folks

It did have one forward gear...in case the enemy attacked from the rear......when i heard this joke it was an Italian tank....

- Are there any jokes about incestuous Glasgow psychopaths?
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- I've been travelling in England for a long time, and never noticed that. On the contrary, I've noticed tolerance for different nations that is simply beyond compare. I wonder why is it the English who so often get vilified? One of the most decent peoples ever. To me, the English and Irish are the best, most good-hearted peoples I've ever met (I haven't met many Scottish, but those I've met were also decent people; of course I won't generalise about the Scottish based on the hateful utterances of the half-illiterate psychopath, allegedly from Glasgow, calling himself 'noimmigration'). Are you expressing the American stereotype of the English in your post, DumbYankee? Is that what the Americans say about them?

- In reality, it's the American Jews who have been mainly responsible for the spread of these extremely hateful slurs called incorrectly 'Polish jokes.' The main - and bestselling author - of collections of these slurs is a Jewish American 'comedian,' Larry Wilde. See crude 'jokes' by the likes of Bette Midler, Jerry Lewis, Woody Allen. Also, see: 'Ethnic Humour Around the World' by Davies (don't confuse with Norman Davies). What is the reason for 'Polish jokes'? - Hatred of the Poles and desire to hurt them.

It's just a hunch really, as the jokes started long before I was born, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if the jokes were invented by mill workers to make fun of other mill workers, let alone children on the playgrounds at school...I and I'm sure many others on here have been the brunt of either "Dumb Polak" jokes or some similar on many occasions. It has nothing to do with you being Polish, or of Polish decent, nor does it have anything to do with quite a few things. I think people simply pick a target, and invent something that will upset that person-creating great fun for the other coworkers, at his/her expense. In school I was one of 3 people in the county with a Polish name-so I've heard ALL the jokes. After joining the Navy I got the "dumb redneck" jokes because I grew up in a rural area in the Southern U.S.....it isn't just Polish people who get teased. A teacher at one of my schools had to send her son a picture of their house, because his coworkers (he was a nuclear power engineer) thought he no doubt lived in a tar-paper shack or perhaps a run-down trailer.
Some people hate Polish people I'm sure, but I think it more likely started as one specific worker or student trying to upset another specific worker or student, for a laugh.
Which is why all the "Polak" jokes work just as well as "Italian" jokes or (choose nationality/origin/race/creed of your choice).
Anyway I'm rambling, but it's just a hunch.