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pawianThreads: 90
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Joined: May 30, 08  Pictures: 2 ♂ 		 Jun 17, 11, 23:43    #31
Seanus:
My differences place me above, pawian. A J and I see it much better than weak sticker folk.


Yes, Seanus, you are like a god. :):):):):):):):)

How come you have problem with the mod? :):):):):):)
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Jun 17, 11, 23:46    #32
Thanks but I'm humble. Modesty is a virtue!

You can read, can't you? I'm glad my wife has common sense and isn't a blind woman bound by convention.
pawianThreads: 90
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Joined: May 30, 08  Pictures: 2 ♂ 		 Jun 17, 11, 23:50    #33
Barney:
pawian:
It sounds reasonable and very wise.

No it doesnt, it sounds like lets throw everything into the air and see what happens.


Yes, it was done in this way.

But, a few thoughts were valuable, indeed.

A J:
pawian:
What will you do if kids appear?

I will let them be kids, and try to teach them about life and people as best as I can.



A J:
pawian:
Catholic wedding?
Who knows? If I ever have kids, and they grow up, and they want to become Catholic out of their own free will as young adolescents who *are* capable of thinking for themselves, then who am I to tell them I will excommunicate them from my family if they would ever marry a Catholic girl or guy? All I care about is if they genuinely *love* each other.



A J:
Let me tell you one thing about life, because I think *everyone* who's mature enough will understand me; There's *always* a problem. But you know, I wouldn't have it any other way, because this means we *still* have the freedom to disagree with each other. It would be a *real* scary world if we would all think the same, talk the same, look the same and sound the same. I just hope that one day we will *all* agree about *one* thing though, and that's that you should be allowed to be yourself and allow others to be themselves as well. I don't see why we should shut each other out because of a different opinion, a different idea or a different belief when we can listen to each other, talk to each other and who knows we can learn a thing or two from each other in doing so.

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Joined: May 26, 08  Pictures: 3 ♂ 		 Jun 17, 11, 23:55    #34
pawian:
But, a few thoughts were valuable, indeed.

A few valuable thoughts indeed provided you keep your fingers crossed:)))
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Joined: May 30, 08  Pictures: 2 ♂ 		 Jun 17, 11, 23:59    #35
Barney:
A few valuable thoughts indeed provided you keep your fingers crossed:)))


I will be frank with you - I don`t understand this speech.
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Joined: Feb 14, 07  Pictures: 1 ♂ [Suspended] 		Edited by: Crow  Jun 18, 11, 00:03    #36
people, if i marry Polish girl she would come back to old Slavic rodoverie in the form of Serbian SLAVA way. But, i don`t delude myself.... That wouldn`t save me from horns
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Joined: May 30, 08  Pictures: 2 ♂ 		 Jun 18, 11, 00:04    #37
Crow:
people, if i marry Polish girl she would come back to old Slavic rodoverie in the form of Serbian SLAVA way. But, i don`t delude myself. That would save me from horns


I will be frank with you - I don`t understand this speech.
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pawian:
I will be frank with you - I don`t understand this speech.

what`s the problem, my Slavicized English or you don`t understand what i talking about?

NOTE > its not `That would save me from horns`. Its `That wouldn`t save me from horns`. i edited myself
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Jun 18, 11, 00:07    #39
Crow, what does a Catholic believe in in your opinion?
pawianThreads: 90
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Joined: May 30, 08  Pictures: 2 ♂ 		 Jun 18, 11, 00:11    #40
Seanus:
Crow, what does a Catholic believe in in your opinion?


this:
Seanus:
A J and I see it much better than weak sticker folk.


:):):)
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Jun 18, 11, 00:12    #41
Wow, recognition! TA!
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Seanus:
Crow, what does a Catholic believe in in your opinion?

my priest said to me many times that Catholic Church represent sister Church to the Orthodox Church and that we all believe in Christ and His Mother and in many other nice things.

But also, we Serbians preserved (in Christianize form) one old archaic custom that was once universal for all Slavs. Its SLAVA. We are last Slavs who still worship and understand family custom SLAVA. Simplistically speaking, we Serbians truly believe that during day of SLAVA our oldest ancestor sit on our right shoulder.
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Jun 18, 11, 00:16    #43
Crow, SUPERB!! Thanks!!!!
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Joined: May 26, 08  Pictures: 3 ♂ 		 Jun 18, 11, 00:56    #44
pawian:
I will be frank with you - I don`t understand this speech.

I'm not the worlds best communicator:)
Its difficult to explain....

AJ's sentiments depend on luck, letting children be children and making their own minds up seems fine but this is not how it is in practice. There is a big world out there that draws children and without some grounding ie imposing your own values the kids will be lost. AJ then jumps from this free for all to them making rational decisions as though they were based on nothing and life experience is just not a good enough reason/explanation/philosophy.
His view that everyone thinks the same, behaves the same and so on misunderstands the community that we all belong to.

Children are raised within a community with a lot of different views and they need to understand these often conflicting views by parental guidance. I suggest that his restricted view of community (not just the religious aspect) is very polarised its not all or nothing there are a range of views especially when time is factored in.
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Joined: May 21, 10 ♂ 		 Jun 18, 11, 01:25    #45
pawian:
I don`t have time to look them up.


I'll keep it *really* short and sweet then: If Catholics and Christians of all denominations would *truly* believe that Jesus died for *all* of our sins, then *why* on earth are they *still* repenting and asking God for forgiveness?

Barney:
No it doesnt, it sounds like lets throw everything into the air and see what happens.


How so? Did I mention *anywhere* that you should stop socializing with people who share your views? I'm just telling you why I believe it's not necessary to divide people and promote some kind of synthetic segregation, based on how we label each other, when we should simply *look* at each other for *who* we *are*, instead of what we believe in.

pawian:
However, this part is really pathetic. It is not longer philosophy, it is a cry of an impotent. :):):)


I guess only time will tell. Oh, and my girl already knows I'm anything *but* impotent, so maybe you should try a little *harder*?

;)

Seanus:
My differences place me above, pawian. A J and I see it much better than weak sticker folk.


I just wish people could chill out, that's all.

:)
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Joined: May 21, 10 ♂ 		Edited by: A J  Jun 18, 11, 01:41    #46
Barney:
AJ's sentiments depend on luck, letting children be children and making their own minds up seems fine but this is not how it is in practice.


I've made up my own mind. (Half of Holland did!) Oh, and most things in life depend on luck, wether you like it or not. You can't *always* play safe.

Barney:
There is a big world out there that draws children and without some grounding ie imposing your own values the kids will be lost.


Excuse me, but I *do* have my own values, and I *did* mention that I *would* try to teach them all about life and people as best as I can.

Barney:
AJ then jumps from this free for all to them making rational decisions as though they were based on nothing and life experience is just not a good enough reason/explanation/philosophy.


You're twisting my words there.

Barney:
His view that everyone thinks the same, behaves the same and so on misunderstands the community that we all belong to.


I'm saying that whenever people shut other people out because they happen to have different views, they *are* trying to make people behave the same. I don't misunderstand anything, because it's *actually* you who doesn't seem to understand what I've written, and the way you've twisted most of my words just proves that. So you really don't have to explain to people what I've written, because they can read it for themselves. (And that's *exactly* what I mean with allowing people to make up their *own* minds!)

;)

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