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KurdishAryanThreads: 1
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 Aug 6, 11, 15:20    #1
hi my polish brothers and sisters... im half kurdish and half polish..

so my father is a kurd from turkey and mother is polish...

and i feel me kurdish and polish .. so i can do all things for kurds and polish people..

now what you think abouth these relationship...


ps : and if someone think THAT kurds are arabs or turks ..it s wrong.. kurds are old medes .so now indoeuropean people in middle eastern..
a video : youtube.com/watch?v=skbbT0kKPNs

greets to poland !

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 Aug 6, 11, 18:31    #2
So... your dad's from Turkey but you have chosen to ignore the Turkish part?

I'm not really sure what the intent is behind this post, but you are clearly in the wrong place if you are looking for validation of the relationship. I fairly certain it wasn't easy for your folks and while times may have moved on, you are much more likely to get abuse than any really useful knowledge on here.

Do you want to hear that you'll be universally accepted anywhere you go in poland..? Or that people are very accepting of those relationships...? Don't hold your breath mate, it's going to be a looong day.
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 Aug 6, 11, 18:55    #3
I sense a troll. Aryan is offensive IMHO.
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 Aug 6, 11, 19:11    #4
I sense a troll. Aryan is offensive IMHO.


Lol, yh. How did I miss that? I clearly made a mistake reading the content and not just reading his stupid name. Cheers Sean,
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 Aug 6, 11, 19:14    #5
That's ok :) Poles really couldn't care less about Kurds. That's not to say they don't like them as a group but they have other things to discuss.
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 Aug 6, 11, 20:26    #6
Aryan is offensive

Oh really? So the second verse of the second chapter of the Bhagavad-Gita is offensive? No, the use of the term Aryan is not offensive when it is used by people who are actually Aryans, such as Iranians, Tajiks, Indians, and Kurds. Surely the term was misappropriated by the Nazis, because Indo-Europeans calling themselves Aryans never settled in Germany or Scandinavia, but to thereby claim that the term is offensive when used by a Kurd demonstrates a lamentable Western-Eurocentrist chauvinistic ignorance regarding history. A Kurdish-Polish fellow trys to reach out to his mother's people on this Polish discussion forum and he gets a Scott and a Turk dismissing his effort with statements like the following:
Poles really couldn't care less about Kurds.

Some Poles know the history of the Kurdish people and they hope that you will have another Kawa (Kowal in Polish) rise in your midst and free your people from their current oppressors as the Kawa of old freed them from the Assyrians.
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 Aug 6, 11, 20:55    #7
A Scott? What, Walter again? Most Poles couldn't care less, it's a fact! It's not meant to be offensive, just factual.
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Edited by: delphiandomine  Aug 6, 11, 21:10    #8
Say something about the Polish-Kurdish relationship

What Polish-Kurdish relationship?

The only people even remotely interested in it are the ones who are the children of middle-class liberal bores, who spend their time not attending lectures at their pathetically easy private universities and instead 'protesting' while actually doing **** all about it.

Oh, and they're Muslims. Poles don't like Muslims.

Poles really couldn't care less about Kurds. That's not to say they don't like them as a group but they have other things to discuss.

Exactly. I'd say that the vast majority of Poles couldn't even tell you where Kurds come from.
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Edited by: Des Essientes  Aug 6, 11, 21:39    #9
What Polish-Kurdish relationship?

The only people even remotely interested in it are the ones who are the children of middle-class liberal bores

So you, Delphiandomine, are claiming that the fellow who started this thread, because he is half Polish and half Kurdish, has such a parental background, which is both laughably presumptive and lamentably rude. You have insulted his mother, a Polish woman, and you should apologize for your lack of tact. Poland and Kurdistan have very interesting historical parallels. Poles were once a huge nation whose sovereignty was divided up betwixt several foriegn powers and Kurdistan is in that situation today being split amongst Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran. The Kurds are the largest nation on Earth without their own country and political scientists cannot help but look at the Polish precedent when examining the possibilities for Kurdistan. This thread is directed at Poles that know something about Kurdistan. If the majority of Poles do not know where Kurdistan is that is absolutely irrelevant, because this is a discussion forum in which threads are started so that people with knowledge about their subjects may speak with each other. This should not be a place for posters to just "make the rounds" posting on as many threads as the can regardless of whether or not they know anything about the subject.
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Edited by: rozumiemnic  Aug 6, 11, 21:41    #10
The only people even remotely interested in it are the ones who are the children of middle-class liberal bores, who spend their time not attending lectures at their pathetically easy private universities and instead 'protesting' while actually doing **** all about it.

Oh, and they're Muslims. Poles don't like Muslims.

jeez take that chip off your shoulder delphiandomine whats your problem?
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 Aug 6, 11, 21:56    #11
because this is a discussion forum in which threads are started so that people with knowledge about their subjects may speak with each other.


it's also a place where those without knowledge of the subject may ask questions and learn. in other words the thread is for anyone and everyone, so long as they stay on topic.
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 Aug 6, 11, 22:20    #12
jeez take that chip off your shoulder delphiandomine whats your problem?


Thing is, in Poland, it's true. Most ordinary people (even well educated ones) simply couldn't care less about Kurds - especially given that they're mainly in the news for terrorism - and people in Poland are definitely afraid of Muslim terrorism.

Interesting combination though - I'd be interested to know how a Polish woman came across a Kurdish guy. Probably through the wonders of Communism (the PKK was once Marxist, if I remember rightly).
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 Aug 6, 11, 22:24    #13
Isn't it strange how the OP writes an opening post and then hightails it, never to come back and discuss it? What's the point in that?
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 Aug 6, 11, 22:28    #14
never to come back and discuss it?


we don't know that. some folk only check in once a day or even once a week.
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 Aug 6, 11, 22:32    #15
True, Wroc³aw. However, I've noticed that many don't.
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 Aug 6, 11, 22:37    #16
Poland and Kurdistan have very interesting historical parallels. Poles were once a huge nation whose sovereignty was divided up betwixt several foriegn powers and Kurdistan is in that situation today being split amongst Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran. The Kurds are the largest nation on Earth without their own country and political scientists cannot help but look at the Polish precedent when examining the possibilities for Kurdistan.


There was a country named Poland before it was dividened. We never heard any country name like Kurdistan in the history before.

The largest nation on the earth without their own country is Gypsies. What about forming Gypsystan? (I am thinking to form Nomadistan soon.;)
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Edited by: Des Essientes  Aug 6, 11, 22:51    #17
We never heard any country name like Kurdistan in the history before.

The Kurds have lived in their mountain homeland for thousands of years and they even fought off Alexander the Great. Nomadnet, you are being willfully ignorant regarding the country of Kurdistan because you are a from a country that pretends Kurds are something called "Mountain Turks" as if the historical record doesn't show that the Kurds were in residence in their homeland for centuries before any Turks arrived in the vicinity, as well as denying the obvious fact that Kurdish is an Indo-European language and not a Turkic one. You are also wrong about their being more Roma than Kurds because the highest estimates for the former are at only 14 million people. As for giving the Roma a sovereign country this would be difficult because they are scattered across the globe. The Kurdish population is, however, still concentrated in its homeland Kurdistan.
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 Aug 6, 11, 23:06    #18
The Kurds have lived in their mountain homeland for thousands of years and they even fought off Alexander the Great. Nomadnet, you are being willfully ignorant regarding the country of Kurdistan because you are a from a country that pretends Kurds are something called "Mountain Turks" as if the historical record doesn't show that the Kurds were in residence in their homeland for centuries before any Turks arrived in the vicinity, as well as denying the obvious fact that Kurdish is an Indo-European language and not a Turkic one. You are also wrong about their being more Roma than Kurds because the highest estimates for the former are at only 14 million people. As for giving the Roma a sovereign country this would be difficult because they are scattered across the globe. The Kurdish population is, however, still concentrated in its homeland Kurdistan



Great post.
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Edited by: NomadatNet  Aug 6, 11, 23:14    #19
The Kurds have lived in their mountain homeland for thousands of years and they even fought off Alexander the Great. Nomadnet, you are being willfully ignorant regarding the country of Kurdistan because you are a from a country that pretends Kurds are something called "Mountain Turks" as if the historical record doesn't show that the Kurds were in residence in their homeland for centuries before any Turks arrived in the vicinity, as well as denying the obvious fact that Kurdish is an Indo-European language and not a Turkic one.

They might have lived in Anatolia for a long time. So what? Did you hear any country name Kurdistan before? Many different folks in Anatolia have lived, come, gone, etc. Kurds are just one of them. Yes, from language point of view, Kurds are close relatives of Persians here, both in Indu-Euro. So, it can be said Kurds and Persians are relatives, but, with different religion sects, shia and sunni. From ethnicity point of view, nobody knows who Kurds are. Some Kurds say they are totally different than Persians. It is okay, whatever... Turkey is most multicultural country in the world, with many ethnicities, many religions and sects and cultures. Europe and rest of world are far behind Turkey in multiculturalism thing... Btw, about Turks' existence here, yes, their last come here happened in 1070, but, it was army. There were turkic nomadic folks in anatolia before that date, like kurdic nomadics too.. Also, during neolitic age, 8-9000 years ago, Turks too lived here in Anatolia (I can prove this which is not written in the written history books.) Those times, almost all folks were like nomadic folks who were travelling from time to time. In Anatolia, besides Turks, Kurds, Greeks, etc, Irish, Germans, Slavs, etc etc too lived in the past. Maybe, some of them stayed here and mix happened.. "This land is mine, you came here later".. Such things are absurd. The oldest settled place known now is only 12,000 years old, yes, in southeastern anatolia here, but, nobody knows which etnicity they were. Anyway.. Maybe, Kurds have been in Anatolia for 1000000000000000 years..

ps: Anyway, I understand you that you'll bring the topic to anti-semitism, the only voice that is clearly heard from this part of the world.
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 Aug 7, 11, 00:12    #20
Isn't it strange how the OP writes an opening post and then hightails it, never to come back and discuss it? What's the point in that?


Lit the fire didn't it? Mods should do IP checks on Trolls. Conveniently, the OP only joined today and rather than getting involved in anything else posts this potential powder keg and has no other post to their name... hmmm
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 Aug 7, 11, 00:26    #21
Precisely. Just a sparker, nothing more.
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 Aug 7, 11, 15:24    #22
Dude's a troll, as simple as that.
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 Aug 7, 11, 15:50    #23
now what you think abouth these relationship...

Best fit is another Polish person for a Polish person. Any Polish - x nation relationship has its own characteristics depending on the counterparts it will be more difficult than Polish - Polish relationship but might also goes well depending on the couple, question is why anyone else would care that or in other words What is your aim starting this thread ? What is funnier why a relationship between two person has anything to do with Kurdish history ? Thread is very stupid but rest of the posts is not better than that.
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 Aug 9, 11, 01:46    #24
here are some racist who try to show kurds as "worse" . thats funny.
and 65 &of kurds are muslim and thsi is not like arabs or turks and kurds has nothing to do with islamist terrorists .
kurdish army soldiers in southkurdistan autonomous region fight against taliban terrorists ,and we kill these!

see here: youtube.com/watch?v=LOOki46JbO4

and we are kurds, we are not arabs ,turks or persians

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 Aug 9, 11, 02:17    #25
65 &of kurds are muslim

KurdishAryan, many of the people on ths forum, especially the trolls that spoke ill of this thread above, have never heard of the Yazedi religion, but some of us have and we salute the Yazedi Kurds for maintaining their most venerable, ancient and interesting faith.
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Edited by: isthatu2  Aug 9, 11, 03:10    #26
Fek the Trolls. Salah ad din was a Kurd.
FYI all the Brits in Poland spouting crap, you lot have so been out of the country too long,how out of touch can people be. S and D, you are both talking trash. Poles and Kurds in the UK have been interacting hugely since 04,plenty of little brown babies being pushed in prams by Polish mums.
As for the septics, apart from Dessi i doubt one of you could tell a Kurd from a Samoan. grow up and keep your WP crap on your side of the pond you pathetic wee haters.
As for our tin foil hat wearing turk nomada....fella, you gripe that Kurdistan isnt a country,sorry to say it is. By the way, tell us all exactly when the country called turkey was invented? Less than a hundred years ago wasnt it? After your genocidal empire collapsed.
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 Aug 9, 11, 05:23    #27
Woah, this post just took a nasty turn somewhere.... Can't we all just get along? I have a dream, a dream where poles and kurds and even Turks can all live together in peace or in their separate territories. There's nothing wrong with a pole-kurd relationship, as long as both parties are happy it's no one elses business.
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 Aug 9, 11, 07:49    #28
I have a dream, a dream where poles and kurds and even Turks can all live together in peace

They do live and work in peace side by side in New York,London Paris etc but not in Turkey.
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 Aug 9, 11, 07:57    #29
Poles and Kurds in the UK have been interacting hugely since 04,plenty of little brown babies being pushed in prams by Polish mums.


Is this really so bad?
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 Aug 9, 11, 07:58    #30
here are some racist who try to show kurds as "worse" . thats funny.
and 65 &of kurds are muslim and thsi is not like arabs or turks and kurds has nothing to do with islamist terrorists .
kurdish army soldiers in southkurdistan autonomous region fight against taliban terrorists ,and we kill these!

see here: youtube.com/watch?v=LOOki46JbO4

and we are kurds, we are not arabs ,turks or persians


I've met numerous Kurds, good folks, our best allies in Iraq. There's a lot of flame bait here on PF, don't take it personally. Nomadat here is a Turk so he's somewhat biased I'd say... ;)


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