Polish Girls vs Russian Girls

Guest	Dec 17, 05, 20:16 #1
I was wondering what is the difference between Russian and Polish women? I know they all are beautiful, but in more details - why should I choose to date a Polish girl rather than Russian girl?

Guest	Dec 18, 05, 14:48 #2
Why do you like dogs and no cats ? Why do you like cats and no dogs ? Take two woman and they are different even when they are twins. Because of the VISA,russian woman are a little bit more "easy " to date. Polish woman can travel free all over, so .............. Ask ten cooks to make Tomatosoup and you will have ten different kinds of soup.

Guest	Dec 18, 05, 16:29 #3
I meant more their characters and personal traits. As far as I know Polish people still find it hard to get a visa to US.

Guest	Dec 19, 05, 06:09 #4
I don't think you can generalize like that. There are both nice and beautiful girls in all countries. Why don't you just find yourself a partner from your own country??

tomek23	Dec 19, 05, 20:54 #5
Polish girls are prettier I think

Rado	Dec 19, 05, 23:22 #6
In my opinion Western guys tend to like Polish people (in this case girls or women) more because Poland is more Western-oriented country; as a result, it's easier for people from the US (for example) to find common interests or find a way of life with Polish women than the Russian ones.

Guest	Dec 20, 05, 09:33 #7
polish of course, russian girls are all right out back but lack up top ;) polish girls i think are more loveable, course that's cause i think maybe as an american again we have more in common...

TONY

Jan 12, 06, 17:34 #8

WHAT'S FAIR IS FAIR, I'M AN AMERICAN AND I HAVE TRAVEL AROUND I WAS MARRIED ONCE TO A WOMAN FROM THE EAST. LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, YOU GUYS POLISH HAVE SOMETHING PERSONAL AGAINST RUSSIAN PEOPLE AND VICE VERSA.

ALL WOMEN IN GENERAL ARE DIFFERENT JUST BECAUSE YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCES WERE NEGATIVE TOWARDS THE RUSSIANS IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IS TRUE YOU FIND GOOD AND BAD WOMEN ALL OVER THE WORLD SOME OF THEM ARE AFFECTED BY THE POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC SITUATIONS OF THEIR OWN COUNTRY AND SOME OF THEM ARE VICTIMS OR HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE THEN GET INVOLVED IN CORRUPTION "PROSTITUTION ETC.

I CANNOT JUDGE OR ACUSED OR POINT FINGERS TO ANYBODY BECAUSE NOBODY IS PERFECT MY EX WIFE FOR EXAMPLE IT'S A PAIN ON HE NECK, CHEATER, SHE IS NOT A PROSTITUE BUT INDERECTLY HER EXBOSS GIVE HER MONEY AND GIFTS.

ETC, FOR SEX MAKING BELIEVE SHE WAS A SECRETARY (CAMUFLAGE), SO IT WOULD BE FARE TO SAY THAT ALL WOMEN ARE PROSTITUES SOMEHOW (PROFESSIONAL WITH COLLEGE AND DOCTORS DEGREES) IN SOME FORM.WOULDN'T IT BE? THE SAME THING WITH MEN ALL MEN ARE DOGS.AREN'THEY, AS I SAID THERE GOOD AND BAD WOMEN EVERYWHERE.

SO DON'T PUT THE RUSSIAN OR POLISH WOMEN DOWN, I VISITED BOTH COUNTRIES AND THEY ARE BOTH INTELLIGENT AND BEAUTIFUL WOMEN THERE IS MORE CORRUPTION IN RUSSIA MAYBE BECAUSE IT'S A BIGGER COUNTRY.

Rad	Jan 13, 06, 21:59 #9
I have absolutely nothing against Russian or Polish girls. I met them both. I think Russian girls are less "demanding" and more straightforward while Polish women are more intellectual and classy. It all depends, of course, on the particular woman but generally speaking if you need more thrill and challenges in your life, Polish woman may be the way to go.

Guest

Jan 16, 06, 10:04 #10

I think that it is hard to say if a russian girl or polish girl is better! I have been living in Poland now for just over 2 months and before i came i was told about the beautiful girls that live in this land...mmmmmmm. maybe the hype made me disappointed, i dont know but in my opinion polish girls are very pretty, but none of them are beautiful!
I notice a lot of girls, who i think, mmm nice, but none that make me think wow! they all have the slav look (well obvious i know, they are slavonic!) which means that they is something characteristic, if not daunting about certain features...they dont have the smooth beauty of a spaniard, or Italian....and probably neither an American(depending where she's from of course!)
in some ways they remind me of the jews, the girls being pretty and the guys pretty ugly, and the women seem to love to give blow jobs (pardon my french).......and they are possessive, and strangely old-fashioned (expect to be wined and dined etc! dont understand the phrase going dutch!)
maybe this is just the grumblings of bad experience but it is my opinion

Guest

Jan 16, 06, 13:14 #11

Quoting: Guest

maybe this is just the grumblings of bad experience but it is my opinion

The point is -- the girl doesn't have to be a Vogue model, SHE HAS TO BE BOTH PRETTY ("very pretty", "pretty" or even "nice" is enough for me as an average man) AND HAVE ALL THE FEATURES OF A GOOD PARTNER, WIFE, AND MOTHER.

I think Polish women have all these features in the best proportions. You can have the most beautiful girl in the world for one night, but she will most likely not stay with you in a long-term relationship not to mention setting up a happy family. It all depends what you're looking for...

Guest	Jan 17, 06, 19:05 #12
finally a sane post...

Guest

Jan 17, 06, 19:51 #13

Quoting: Guest

The point is -- the girl doesn't have to be a Vogue model, SHE HAS TO BE BOTH PRETTY ("very pretty", "pretty" or even "nice" is enough for me as an average man) AND HAVE ALL THE FEATURES OF A GOOD PARTNER, WIFE, AND MOTHER.

I think Polish women have all these features in the best proportions. You can have the most beautiful girl in the world for one night, but she will most likely not stay with you in a long-term relationship not to mention setting up a happy family. It all depends what you're looking for...

ufff... thanks Guest, so soothing to read a mature text written by a man. You are definitely NOT average.

Guest

Jan 17, 06, 19:59 #14

I want to correct one thing - "beautiful girl" for an average man usually means "sexy girl" - which boils down to what she wears (or better - doesn't wear) plus the mainstream things she does to attract a male.
For an average man, an intelligent and self-respecting girl would get the adjective ranging from 'nice' to 'unattractive' - yes, sadly, they can't see deeper then her clothes.

Tony - apparently you got what you were looking for.

Rfx	Jan 17, 06, 20:09 #15
Fortunately - according to research - "an average man" becomes more and more intelligent overall so not only "beautiful", but also "intelligent" and self-respecting girls will be in more demand. For me the fact that my woman can also be my partner in talk or business (not only in bed) is almost as much important as her looks. Maybe I'm getting old though...:")

MarzenaThreads: 2 Posts: 132 Joined: Jan 17, 06 ♀	Edited by: Marzena Jan 17, 06, 20:38 #16
Looks as if you were not primarily looking for a self-respecting, intelligent woman, but your sex object. Your woman being a partner in talk or business is ALMOST as important as her looks??? Well, I'm glad that by getting old your priorities slowly started sorting themselves out.

Rfx	Jan 17, 06, 21:14 #17
I think it's hard to be a friend with woman without looking at her as not a sex object. I mean, I respect ALL women - but sexuality is the first think that attract men to women, isn't it?

MarzenaThreads: 2 Posts: 132 Joined: Jan 17, 06 ♀	Jan 17, 06, 21:36 #18
Again, it all depends on what you are looking for... But I suppose I would have to agree that we live in men's world and they made it look 'normal' and 'ok' to look at the woman as a sex object, instead of maybe.. a human being with a brain and not just breasts? How sad and disappointing.

Rfx

Jan 17, 06, 21:54 #19

Marzena, I don't want you to get me wrong - by "a sex object" I do not mean just "Sex"! I mean the woman's look, voice, smile, move, etc. I don't mean a sexual intercourse or something... I can get attracted to a woman because I like her soft voice, for example. How else would you grab another people's attention? There must be something that is of interest.

I can understand that you may think I'm a chauvinist (I'm a man after all), but in reality I am not. I'm just trying to explain how I think a relationship starts.

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Edited by: Marzena Jan 17, 06, 22:16 #20

I wish I knew your full name as well... Anyways, the attraction you are describing sounds to me like the basic thing that a heterosexual person would say about why he/she likes the other gender and not the same as a sexual partner. Sexuality is part of our identity and by no means should it be disowned. It is something beautiful and can bring deep intimacy when handled right. It is something special that we can offer to someone we feel special about, and that is what makes us human beings climb up on the ladder of animal kingdom. If you look at the opposite sex and all you see is his/her sexual attributes, how are you different from a monkey? (sorry to all monkeys, you sometimes are actually smarter then us). Men most of the time set the rules in the societies, so they see little reason to behave in more complicated ways. Historically, that was the case and that's why men do what they do.

A relationship should start because two people share the same values, have similar outlook on life, find fulfillment in each other's presence and enrichment by learning important things from one another. Sexual realization is supposed to be the last step, as the expression of deeper intimacy as well as satisfying our selfishness in a selfless love for the other person. I use the word 'selfishness' in the context of love, which wants nothing else but love back; it wants to give itself completely as well as experience the other person the same way. This is our physical way of showing it, which by itself has nothing to do with the real thing.

Isn't it sad that you get attracted to a woman just because of her soft voice? We might somehow enjoy it, but you should set yourself higher standards as to what you are attracted to.

MarzenaThreads: 2 Posts: 132 Joined: Jan 17, 06 ♀	Edited by: Marzena Jan 17, 06, 22:24 #21
By the way, I recommend a web site: www.heartlessbitches.com. But be careful, you might feel intimidated by smart women there .

Rfx

Jan 17, 06, 23:21 #22

When a woman finds out my name, she starts to disrespect me so I'd rather not give you my first name. I like your ideas and I wish I was married; otherwise I'd certainly give you my name smile

. I think after all we both are on the same page as far as sexualism is concerned.

However, again, you seem to think I or other men first look at sexualism and THEN at the other values of a woman. It's not what I'm trying to say. In other words, when a I meet a woman for the first time, I look at her in a physical way -- how else can I look at her? Do you mean I should first read her mind and after getting to know her mentally, I should look at her physically? It's not possible I think... Either way, I see you are a very intelligent Polish woman and I'm proud of you as I was born in Poland too! smile

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Jan 18, 06, 07:11 #23

Quoting: Rfx

However, again, you seem to think I or other men first look at sexualism and THEN at the other values of a woman. It's not what I'm trying to say. In other words, when a I meet a woman for the first time, I look at her in a physical way -- how else can I look at her? Do you mean I should first read her mind and after getting to know her mentally, I should look at her physically? It's not possible I think...

I see what you mean, but I think that you're confusing two ideas here. Looking at someone is not possible in any other then physical way, did I make you think otherwise? But what is it that you are looking for or at when you look at a woman? If it's her sexual attributes then you're lost, but it's also possible to look at a woman (and man) with a sense of respect, which assigns her some value based on her behavior, thinking abilities, creativity, self-confidence, compatibility with your values, etc. I'm not saying that you should fall in love with an ugly bitch because she can draw well. Taking care of our appearence is very important and our responsibility, but looking like a whore and liking it, is where you crossed the line. Again, we learned from our society to be attracted to certain characteristics in men and women. It is not abnormal to like a pretty face, but what you do with this is what matters. If you start fantasizing and getting aroused, then you're not in control of yourself, but if you just ignore it because that person didn't look appealing in meaningful ways, then you're in control and showing respect both to yourself and other people.

Rfx

Jan 18, 06, 11:24 #24

Well, I guess I'm lost then since I have to admit I look at women's sexual attributes first (I can say if I like the woman or not after the first glance smile

. Then, when I like her physical appearance, I'm willing to get to know her better. BUT - you must agree that not for every man "sexual attributes" mean the same. As I explained earlier, for me it can be anything related to the woman. And I don't think I don't respect a woman just because I admit I "like her". It is human to show feelings (of course - most of the feelings should be and ARE smothered; that's why we are different from the animals).

See, if everyone wanted to control himself or herself as much as you suggest, we all would become robots. Our ancestors didn't try to control as much as today's society "requires" us to and they did very well (less stress, more healthy lifestyle).

Anyway, it's nice to be called "monkey" - provided a nice woman like you tells it to me in a subtle way. Now you know why I didn't want to reveal my name smile

.

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Jan 18, 06, 12:15 #25

not necessarily robots, like I said - we can like certain things but not necessarily react to them. it seems that a man who automatically has some uncontrollable reactions in specific situations fits a 'robot' more then the one who uses his brain before he acts.
ideally we should all be perfect, mature (after certain age), value certain values... but that doesn't always happen. what is hopeful though is that no matter where we are, we always make an effort to become better.

when you admit that you look at women in sexual ways, you treat them as sex objects... degrading a person to an object, even if just in your thougths - means disrespecting her, but also yourself. you respect others only if you can truly respect yourself.

our ancestors also burnt people alive and believed that a disease is God's curse on you. such simplicity of behavior and judgment sure made their lifes less stressful.

on top of everything, commitment to long term values is the real discussion here.

Rfx

Jan 18, 06, 13:20 #26

Quoting: Marzena

it seems that a man who automatically has some uncontrollable reactions in specific situations fits a 'robot' more then the one who uses his brain before he acts.

The human MUST automatically react sometimes. This is how the body works -- when it's cold, you tremble; when it's hot, you sweat; when you see a nice girl, some chemical reactions occur and you arouse your senses, etc. I think it has little to do with being perfect, mature, or respectful.

If humans tried to control EVERYTHING with their thoughts, the human race would have been dead a long time ago. Animals would kill each and every man while their were contemplating if to run or not...

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Edited by: Marzena Jan 18, 06, 13:43 #27

very good. some of our reactions are automatic, it's impossible to keep all the information in the immediate awareness. BUT our reactions are learned - that means you can re-learn them after re-evaluation of your thoughts and values (as we get more mature and conscious). it's like driving a car with stick shift. when you're an experienced driver you dont' think of how you change the gears, but once you had to learn it. however, the things we learn in passive and unthinking ways we tend to consider as 'our nature'. sexual behavior is also a learned behavior due to what we see around and some mechanisms that are easy for us to acquire. as I said before, men generally allow themselves too much, until they are so brainwashed that they think they can't behave differently. but fortunately that's not always the case. if you want to test this theory, try to do something you always thought you couldn't.

Rfx

Jan 18, 06, 14:07 #28

OK.

Let's assume we (you, me, and other people) are at a party. What should I do in order to attract your female attention? In other words, how should I act or what should I do so that you think: "Hmm, I think this guy is interesting. I'd like to learn more about him."

It's important for me as knowing the "trick" [monkies like the tricks ;] would possibly get me more chances of meeting such a nice girl like you.

MarzenaThreads: 2 Posts: 132 Joined: Jan 17, 06 ♀	Edited by: Marzena Jan 18, 06, 14:46 #29
so you think that I'm so stupid that I would not see that you're merely using tricks on me...? well, just to refresh our memory on the names of some old-fashined values... they would start with honesty, sincerity, self-respect, living life with a deeper meaning in it... and of course, it all depends on which parties you're going to .

Rfx	Jan 18, 06, 15:02 #30
No, I'm not trying to play you... I just thought it would be nice to know your opinion. Honesty, sincerity, self-respect and other values -- it's hard to grasp them all when you have a 5-minute contact with the other person.

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