Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married)

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Edited by: Paulina Oct 30, 10, 20:31 #91

Mr Grunwald:

Although I remember saving the School from fire heroically by reacting reflexive and taking the napkin which was on fire carry it out and trample it down in the snow. All of the school was in ave from me doing the deed.

Still when it comes to women I am most often quite on the soft side and "Gentlemen" like opening doors etc. Teachers always looked so weird on me when I opened doors for em etc.

1 time I misinterpreted an older womens gest, I wanted her to go first on the bus but she didn't move so I thought she wanted me to go first, as the bus was already late I thought we shouldn't make too much of an argument over it and I stepped in. Two seconds later I heard a comment "Youth now a days" and to this DAY I feel ill over it and hope I may be forgiven by heavens and god and angels a like for that event.

Awww, that's sweet, Grunwald ;) It looks like you're a nice person :) I guess it's better than being a jerk ;)

Mina:

Polish boys are bloody fantastic!!

Yup ;)

Teffle:

(Sigh) Oh to be a real man and a gentleman - simultaneously that is - isn't that what women want?

Yes, yes! (or in turns, at least ;D)
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zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Oct 30, 10, 20:45 #92
Teffle: (Sigh) Oh to be a real man and a gentleman - simultaneously that is - isn't that what women want? it's not two opposites Teffle. Man can be man and a gentleman, I don't see any clash here.

PaulinaThreads: 2 Posts: 561 Joined: Jan 31, 08 ♀	Oct 30, 10, 20:45 #93
zetigrek: it's not two opposites Teffle. Man can be man and a gentleman, I don't see any clash here. I agree.

nottThreads: 6 Posts: 1,271 Joined: Jun 2, 10 ♂	Oct 30, 10, 20:53 #94
zetigrek: Man can be man and a gentleman, Yet some people find this concept difficult to grasp. Thing is, such a man deserves a Woman. Welcome to Poland. :)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Oct 30, 10, 21:02 #95
There must be some really heated relationships on the go. Polish men can be headstrong but the women can bite. Too many cave into insistence.

strzygaThreads: 4 Posts: 988 Joined: Apr 30, 08 ♀	Edited by: strzyga Oct 30, 10, 21:06 #96
Teffle: (Sigh) Oh to be a real man and a gentleman - simultaneously that is - isn't that what women want? At last somebody seems to be getting it :D Wroclaw: this reminds me of a time i bought some weights and then realized i couldn't carry them out of the shop. and what did you do?

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Oct 30, 10, 21:19 #97
strzyga: and what did you do? a phone call for a lift home and one by one to the car. it wasn't a full set. just too heavy for one move.

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Edited by: Geronimo Oct 30, 10, 21:37 #98

I think it depends with whom you are.If you settled for some skunk because that was the only girl that was willing to go to bed with you than yeah, you want to spend as much time with your mates as possible, have a drink and meat women.Then you meat the right one and suddenly you can see other side of yourself , enjoy life with her even more than with pals , and yes you are ready to meet in the middle, compromise to have this thing going.Been in both kind of relationships and for long run is better to be with outspoken and demanding soulmate than with hat in hand minger.

TeffleThreads: 28 Posts: 2,105 Joined: Aug 26, 10 ♂	Edited by: Teffle Oct 30, 10, 21:46 #99
I don't see any clash here. Not really, but women need to make their minds up as to on which occasion we are supposed to exercise which traits. Then, we will have a perfect world! So basically, in the meantime, it's be Cary Grant or feck off ya useless sh1te then... : )

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Nov 1, 10, 00:03 #100

Teffle:

women need to make their minds up as to on which occasion we are supposed to exercise which traits.

I know and understand what you are saying but I still disagree. It's up to men to decide how they wish to act and what personable traits they wish to exhibit. Men must be themselves first and not have their strings pulled by women who are generally too fickle to know what they want from men at any given time.

As to women who want a "gentleman", perhaps they have to become 'ladies' first. Dressing like ****** and using sex to sell themselves is not exactly acting ladylike. Constantly complaining about men, frequently when men aren't around' is not being a lady either. Let's not forget that much of feminism claims that genders are merely social constructs and much of their literature is based on this false premise. Do these feminists demand that women become ladies? Not hardly.

Too many women have a wrong definition of the word "lady". Ironically, they demand that men pay their girlfriends and wives like prostitutes — cash, dinners, vacations, jewelry, gifts, even clothing — in exchange for sex. Unnecessary and emasculating to men, this insipid behavior only makes them prostitutes and that rose does indeed not smell as sweet.

Teffle:

it's be Cary Grant or feck off ya useless sh1te then...

Heh,heh, absolutely right. When some less than clean, unshaven construction worker oogles an under dressed woman intentionally walking by, these women cry "harassment" or "sexist" or merely eeewww, gross. Yet, a block later some young well dressed businessman or banker can do the same exact thing, and she's interested.

Simply put; men, be youself and use your God given testosterone as nature designed it to be used - as a man

A JThreads: 19 Posts: 4,639 Joined: May 21, 10 ♂	Nov 1, 10, 10:21 #101
welshguyinpola: Polish men are complete doormats (especially after they get married) My condolences. xD

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Edited by: welshguyinpola Nov 1, 10, 19:45 #102

A J:

My condolences.

I am not one of those, and my wife has got used to it now.

Seanus:

Well, they rate Polish women very highly indeed so are prepared to forego so much in order to keep them, whims and all. Besides, some women here want to rule the roost. They play second fiddle to no-one.

Seanus, u got sth here. Alot of men are doormats here cos theyh have women WAAAAAYYYYY above their league and they will do anything to keep them. I very often see stunning ladies walking had in hand with small bearded spotty guys and wonder if she is wearing her contavt lenses.

AtoshaThreads: 5 Posts: 63 Joined: Oct 19, 10 ♀	Dec 11, 10, 17:48 #103
welshguyinpola: I very often see stunning ladies walking had in hand with small bearded spotty guys and wonder if she is wearing her contavt lenses. Thats because them sort of men can get close to those women by being there friend first, and over time the women naturally start having feelings for them. Good looking men find attractive women out of there reach so they keep there distance.

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Dec 11, 10, 18:13 #104
welshguyinpola: Alot of men are doormats here cos theyh have women WAAAAAYYYYY above their league What about you? Are you in the same league with your lady?

king polkakamonThreads: 1 Posts: 1,018 Joined: Dec 30, 09 ♂	Dec 11, 10, 18:37 #105
I am way beyond her league.

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Dec 11, 10, 18:39 #106

honestly?..

A lot of Polish men hate and fear responsibility, in any shape. Nowadays, some admit openly in front of people they would give up a lot if only they could go back to kindergarten, and spend the rest of their lives playing.

In turn, Polish women feel the pressure to prove that they are strong, independent, responsible, reliable, and whatnot, because it's really hard to find a job in Poland if you're a young woman (sometimes you will even get told things like 'I won't hire you, you will be pregnant in two years' flat out during the interview).

I'm not saying it's 100% like that, there are childish girls and responsible guys in Poland too, but the tendency is as above. And guys with Peter Pan complex tend to turn out the doormats after marriage, because they start to treat their wives as second mums, shoving all 'adult' responsibilities they can onto them.

AtoshaThreads: 5 Posts: 63 Joined: Oct 19, 10 ♀	Dec 11, 10, 18:49 #107
yuaelt: they start to treat their wives as second mums, shoving all 'adult' responsibilities they can onto them. True, well from my experience anyway.

king polkakamonThreads: 1 Posts: 1,018 Joined: Dec 30, 09 ♂	Dec 11, 10, 19:06 #108
yuaelt: A lot of Polish men hate and fear responsibility, in any shape. Nowadays, some admit openly in front of people they would give up a lot if only they could go back to kindergarten, and spend the rest of their lives playing. Interesting.

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Dec 11, 10, 21:06 #109

honestly?..

A lot of Polish men hate and fear responsibility, in any shape. Nowadays, some admit openly in front of people they would give up a lot if only they could go back to kindergarten, and spend the rest of their lives playing.

In turn, Polish women feel the pressure to prove that they are strong, independent, responsible, reliable, and whatnot, because it's really hard to find a job in Poland if you're a young woman (sometimes you will even get told things like 'I won't hire you, you will be pregnant in two years' flat out during the interview).

I'm not saying it's 100% like that, there are childish girls and responsible guys in Poland too, but the tendency is as above. And guys with Peter Pan complex tend to turn out the doormats after marriage, because they start to treat their wives as second mums, shoving all 'adult' responsibilities they can onto them.

Honestly?

I think You're spouting utter nonsense.

alexw68	Dec 11, 10, 21:40 #110
Midas: Honestly? I think You're spouting utter nonsense. Actually, mate, he isn't. You are probably an exception to that trend, for which you obviously have my total respect. However: I have enough to deal with in my own family from the fallout of precisely this tendency to state that there is, sadly, a lot of it about. A

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Edited by: Midas Dec 12, 10, 02:05 #111

1) According to most "hardcore Poles" I'm not Polish.

2) Like it or not,Peter Pan is a much more popular role-model for males in U.K., there must be more of them running around London town than there are ( or most likely ever will be ) in Poland. Hence I believe I summed up that part of the quote correctly.

3) Polish women... Sure some are "strong, independent, responsible, reliable, and whatnot, but at least as often ( if not more often ) they tend to be greedy, spoiled, convinced that they're a genuine princess and of low morality. Many of them pretend to be ladies of much class and high maintenance while at the same time they're ready to shag at a drop of a hat if You offer them a free place on Your sofa in London.

4) So, as I said, utter nonsense, or to be more precise - unfounded theories based on yuaelt's personal assumptions.

noreenbThreads: 4 Posts: 1,082 Joined: Apr 22, 09 ♀	Edited by: noreenb Dec 12, 10, 21:53 #112
Doormats, oh, sounds awful. Gosh, so happy I haven't decided yet I will marry a Polish guy! :) Fortunately many of my cool friends are happy with some Polish men who became their husbands!

cutie911Threads: 2 Posts: 18 Joined: Dec 22, 10 ♀	Dec 22, 10, 04:56 #113
I want to marry a guy like that;-)

ZIMMYThreads: 10 Posts: 2,353 Joined: Feb 21, 09 ♂	Dec 23, 10, 01:18 #114
cutie911: I want to marry a guy like that; You need to marry a guy who can express himself as well as this one.

cutie911Threads: 2 Posts: 18 Joined: Dec 22, 10 ♀	Dec 23, 10, 01:42 #115
Haha yea that is true if I married a man that did everything for me the marriage would get kind of boring=(

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