Polish men and muslim women

WulkanThreads: 1 Posts: 344 Joined: Dec 28, 07 ♂	Dec 29, 07, 12:05 #1
Do muslim men have anything against? there is one Pakistani girl who aked me out, I know she likes me... will it carry on? I live in England/Birmingham if it makes any difrence

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06 ♂	Dec 29, 07, 12:12 #2
Wulkan wrote: there is one Pakistani girl who aked me out, I know she likes me... will it carry on? Give it a go and see. Nothing ventured.......

AgniThreads: - Posts: 5 Joined: Dec 15, 07 ♀	Jan 2, 08, 12:37 #3
hmm.. that is interesting but as far as i know polish men and pakistani girl are rare cases seldom practised, it is up to her family and her...... any way move slowly and find out more about her and her attitude towards u, may be u missunderstood her?

WulkanThreads: 1 Posts: 344 Joined: Dec 28, 07 ♂	Jan 5, 08, 03:46 #4
Agni wrote: any way move slowly and find out more about her and her attitude towards u, may be u missunderstood her? I think I understood her very well, we've dated 3 times so far but nobody knows about it, the think I am concerned abot is what can happen when her family and friends finds out...

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07 ♀	Jan 7, 08, 03:08 #5
Wulkan wrote: Wulkan I'd be very wary if I were you...in fact I'd not go there if I were you, if her male relatives find out you might find you house up in smoke while you're in bed. As westernised as she may seem, her family would not approve, sorry to burst your bubble, but I don’t think it would have a good ending. Just my 2p worth..

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Jan 22, 08, 20:43 #6

ShelleyS wrote:

I'd be very wary if I were you...in fact I'd not go there if I were you, if her male relatives find out you might find you house up in smoke while you're in bed. As westernised as she may seem, her family would not approve, sorry to burst your bubble, but I don’t think it would have a good ending.

Just my 2p worth..

it all depends. i surely wouldn't jump to that conslusion so fast.

wulcan, why don't you ask this girl about that.. she'll tell you the truth.. one way or another.

any updates? :)

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Mar 8, 08, 10:29 #7

Thread attached on merging:
What is it about Muslim men that make them think Polish girls are easy ?

Christ, almost every thread except "what's your favorite spirit" has a Muslim man trying to get in touch with a Polish girl.....

What makes them think that Polish girls are interested anyway?

in being just another wife, one of 4
to stop drinking and eating pork products (kielbaski, bekon, golombki, kotlety)
not been seen in public (wearing nice clothes)
not being able to suntan on a beach, got to be covered in public !
not celebrating Xmas, instead starving over Ramadan and celebrating eide instead
waiting for you husband to come home and getting sloppy 4th's if he has enough energy!
50 more reasons but lets see how we get on with these first.....

DaveyThreads: 17 Posts: 436 Joined: Jun 29, 07 ♂	Mar 8, 08, 10:31 #8
Being somebody that lives in a predominately Muslim neighborhood, I can just say, many Muslim men think they are the cat's ass and think they can get whatever they want. But I also have met a lot of nice Muslim men, but the majority that I know are ********.

Patrycja19Threads: 79 Posts: 3,974 Joined: Oct 31, 06 ♀	Mar 8, 08, 10:37 #9
bajka wrote: What makes them think that Polish girls are interested anyway? maybe they are blinded to the grass being greener.

bajkaThreads: 1 Posts: 105 Joined: Mar 7, 08 ♂	Edited by: Moderator Mar 8, 08, 10:39 #10
I'll tell you what, its a good job they cover their women, some are not worth seeing ! there are already enough discussions about PL and Muslim people. That's why this was merged.

sweet_gThreads: 4 Posts: 83 Joined: Sep 30, 08 ♀	Feb 11, 09, 10:52 #11
why is it always about muslim men and polish women? I bet there are a lot of muslim women and polish men couple. I am being serious because most of the threads are about muslim men, not to be mean but i am muslim also. I dont think it is fair why men usually get away with it.

PawelThreads: 4 Posts: 145 Joined: Jan 5, 07 ♂	Feb 11, 09, 10:56 #12
sweet_g: muslim women and polish men couple You have to be kidding

sweet_gThreads: 4 Posts: 83 Joined: Sep 30, 08 ♀	Feb 11, 09, 11:41 #13
well i am with a polish man. I am not kidding

alinkaThreads: - Posts: 14 Joined: Oct 23, 08 ♀	Edited by: alinka Feb 12, 09, 01:26 #14
Wulkan, are you aware that according to Islam muslim woman can only marry muslim man? It is easier for muslim men as they are allowed to marry women of other monotheistic religions. If the family and the girl are religious and you are serious about the relationship you would have to convert... So that's why you will not see many couples muslim woman + non muslim man.

mafketisThreads: 17 Posts: 1,880 Joined: Mar 31, 08 ♂	Feb 12, 09, 01:54 #15
A lot depends on the national background and the individual religious orientation of the woman's family. Pakistani and (some) Arab cultures are the strictest and most xenophobic (religiously) but I've known of believing muslim women marrying non-muslim men with their family's acceptance from some other parts of the world.

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Sep 9, 09, 01:17 #16

wulkan please don't listen to this crap about the narrow mindedness of her family... i have been married to a polish man from olkusz for a year and three months now i'm a muslim and hes a catholic we're expecting our first child this november :) but all in all my family accepts him they were hesitant at first but they have grown accustomed to him and i might even dare say they enjoy his company. we had our phases of disagreements and doubts but the important thing that made us work was mutual trust and respect, and the key most important thing that kept us together was the both of us refused to accept these "horror stories". i know there is some truth behind each story but then again you have to accept that and there are exaggerations to them. i could have very easily fallen for horror stories about polish men being drunk 24/7 and unable to support their families but i know for a fact that its not the case. so please try and keep an open mind and enjoy yourself but also remember where theres no compromise there is no victory :) good luck

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Edited by: SzwedwPolsce Sep 9, 09, 01:49 #17

sakena:

horror stories

Horror stories? You don't have a clue, do you? I have seen that so many women in Muslim countries are treated as persons with less value than men, alomst like a subhuman race. And society accepted it! What the f*ck? Society accepted it. I was very surprised when I saw that. I'm very sorry to say it, but only animals behave like this. And we are talking about millions of women. I must also say that there are good Muslims as well. I have several friends who are Muslims.

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Sep 9, 09, 06:33 #18

SzwedwPolsce
actually szwedwpolsce i think i know first hand being a muslim woman about the treatment of muslim women in muslim society now ill agree with you about the fact that there are idiots that act in an inexcusable way but they represent less than an insignificant minority of the muslim population and these fanatical idiots receive so much highlight in the media that most of the world assumes that all muslims are like them. there is a very strong hadits in the muslim religion that states "the best of you are those who are the best to their wife" not only that but also when a man approached the prophet (pbuh) and asked him who deserves the greatest share of kindness from my heart the prophet (pbuh) said "your mother" the man again asked then who deserves it after her the prophet (pbuh) said "your mother" the man once again asked who deserves it after that the prophet (pbuh) again said "your mother" the man asked then who deserves it after that the prophet (pbuh) said "your father" so essentially islam gives the MOTHER not the father but i say again the MOTHER three times more right than the father over the children and the Quran clearly says: "And revere (respect and adore) the wombs that bore you, for God is ever watchful over you." (4:1)... so in the eyes of a muslim every woman is somebody's mother or will be someones mother one day and to discriminate or harass or deprive her in anyway is an open violation of the Quran (the word of God) and the orders of the prophet and like you said if millions of people stood by and watched well they didn't do their islamic duty by stopping these acts and if that is the case i would agree with you that these individuals are animals but their actions dont in any single instance represent islam or the status of women in islam. there is also a very popular saying in islam that says "heaven lies under your mothers feet" now let me pose a question to you if islam is such a barbaric religon that is dedicated solely for the opression of women, as claimed by the yellow journalism tactics of the media (look up "yellow journalism" on wikipedia ) why are so many women who are born in such an alleged oppressive religion that as you said makes them "subhuman" and gives them "less value than men" still continue to be muslims when there is "no compulsion in religon" (2:256) well the answer is plain and simple the fact is islam is not what its portrayed to be. so swedzwpolsce i do have a clue :) i know what my religon is and what womens rights are in my religon :)

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Edited by: java Sep 9, 09, 08:46 #19

Hi all, just stumbled upon this page and after reading everyone's reply I thought to post something here. Yes muslim girls have polish boyfriends and one of those girls is me. I actually dated men from all around the world, but this Polish man is the only one for whom my heart ticked vigorously. He is simply perfect! I met his family and they are nice also. And here I would like to say that that Polish guys are no less than Muslims when it comes to searching for the right girl. My Polish man always emphasizes that I am the right girl for him because I have all the qualities he dreamed to have in his future wife.And those are:
- The girl cannot have male friends. He believes girls and boys should stay segregated.
- She should not be out too much. He believes a girl who has an active social life and parties every weekend is a s1ut.
- The girl's top priority should be only her man.
- The girl must dress modestly and she must be softly spoken. He even said that he likes hijab.
- A girl should not spend time with two or more men in one room. In his house, his brothers are not allowed to be in one room with me. His brothers follow the same rules for their girlfriends. Moreover, one of his brothers is not allowing his girlfriend to get a driver's license because he believes she will then have too much freedom. His other brother's girlfriend's head is always down when she suddenly comes in front of the men in the house.
I sacrificed my social life for him because I love him madly. Also now I don't have any male friends at all. One of my friends laughed at me and said I was marrying a taliban. But I really didn't care because he is just too cute. But I would like to mention here that none of my muslim friends actually said anything bad about my relationship with him. One of my religious Egyptian classmates saw us together at a store, but even he congratulated me.The only people who frowned were Buddhists and Hindus. And for some reason the Asian girls gave me a bad look. It seems like non muslims are more worried about my relationship than me, my family, and him!

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Sep 9, 09, 13:38 #20

java:

The girl cannot have male friends. He believes girls and boys should stay segregated.
- She should not be out too much. He believes a girl who has an active social life and parties every weekend is a s1ut.
- The girl's top priority should be only her man.
- The girl must dress modestly and she must be softly spoken. He even said that he likes hijab.
- A girl should not spend time with two or more men in one room. In his house, his brothers are not allowed to be in one room with me. His brothers follow the same rules for their girlfriends. Moreover, one of his brothers is not allowing his girlfriend to get a driver's license because he believes she will then have too much freedom. His other brother's girlfriend's head is always down when she suddenly comes in front of the men in the house.

Are you being sarcastic?

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Edited by: ShelleyS Sep 9, 09, 13:51 #21

java:

Hi all, just stumbled upon this page and after reading everyone's reply I thought to post something here. Yes muslim girls have polish boyfriends and one of those girls is me. I actually dated men from all around the world, but this Polish man is the only one for whom my heart ticked vigorously. He is simply perfect! I met his family and they are nice also. And here I would like to say that that Polish guys are no less than Muslims when it comes to searching for the right girl. My Polish man always emphasizes that I am the right girl for him because I have all the qualities he dreamed to have in his future wife.And those are:
- The girl cannot have male friends. He believes girls and boys should stay segregated.
- She should not be out too much. He believes a girl who has an active social life and parties every weekend is a s1ut.
- The girl's top priority should be only her man.
- The girl must dress modestly and she must be softly spoken. He even said that he likes hijab.
- A girl should not spend time with two or more men in one room. In his house, his brothers are not allowed to be in one room with me. His brothers follow the same rules for their girlfriends. Moreover, one of his brothers is not allowing his girlfriend to get a driver's license because he believes she will then have too much freedom. His other brother's girlfriend's head is always down when she suddenly comes in front of the men in the house.
I sacrificed my social life for him because I love him madly. Also now I don't have any male friends at all. One of my friends laughed at me and said I was marrying a taliban. But I really didn't care because he is just too cute. But I would like to mention here that none of my muslim friends actually said anything bad about my relationship with him. One of my religious Egyptian classmates saw us together at a store, but even he congratulated me.The only people who frowned were Buddhists and Hindus. And for some reason the Asian girls gave me a bad look. It seems like non muslims are more worried about my relationship than me, my family, and him!

Liar! Liar, ya bums on fire!

Just one more point, you must be a bit of a goer, since you state you've dated men from all around the world, how long did it take you to get through every nationality?

mvefa:

Are you being sarcastic?

Just living on another planet I think, it did give me a good laugh though.

BTW from what I can remember Wulkan has an non muslim English girlfriend now.

mvefaThreads: 11 Posts: 972 Joined: Jul 21, 09 ♂	Sep 9, 09, 13:59 #22
java: I actually dated men from all around the world, Damn girl, you have been around! ShelleyS: how long did it take you to get through every nationality? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA i must admit good one... That girl knows how to have fun!

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Sep 9, 09, 14:21 #23

Java, have I read it wrongly or does your Polish boyfriend really believe what mvefa has quoted above? It sounds to me that he is a deeply insecure person. I can understand Muslims having such attitudes because that is part of their religious beliefs; but for a Polish guy, or any guy from the west to think this way seems weird to say the least. Surely it means that he doesn't trust you? Worse still he doesn't trust his brother! I can't believe that a woman who has experienced any degree of social freedom could live happily under such constraints. I think any person whose partner, or religion for that matter, dictates that they cannot have friendships or only limited social interaction with people of the opposite sex is missing out on one of life's joys. Just because a female has an active social life does not make her a slut any more than because I go out with friends without my partner I am going to screw around with female friends. And the fact that you have said that your boyfriend's brother is determining whether his girlfriend should have a driving licence or not seems to indicate the family he comes from has an unhealthy policy of controlling their women. As a Muslim you might find such behaviour acceptable from your Muslim menfolk; but for a Polish guy, or any man of western origins for that matter, to think like this should set alarm bells ringing. Frankly he sounds creepy; cute maybe, but definitely creepy....or have I misunderstood what you have written?

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Edited by: niejestemcapita Sep 9, 09, 14:34 #24

java:

A girl should not spend time with two or more men in one room. In his house, his brothers are not allowed to be in one room with me. His brothers follow the same rules for their girlfriends. Moreover, one of his brothers is not allowing his girlfriend to get a driver's license because he believes she will then have too much freedom. His other brother's girlfriend's head is always down when she suddenly comes in front of the men in the house.
I sacrificed my social life for him because I love him madly. Also now I don't have any male friends at all. One of my friends laughed at me and said I was marrying a taliban

I have some Muslim friends here in UK and they would agree that this guy and his brothers sound creepy and controlling.
Are u mad?
Or is this a wind up?

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Edited by: MareGaea Sep 9, 09, 14:41 #25

java

Hm, I like Java coffee. That's all I'm gonna say about this. I think Java is just some bimbo or douchebag that pretends to be muslim and tells all kinda bad things in order to give muslims a bad name.

If it is true than I can foresee that boyfriend will start beating Java up and she will come crawling back to him time after time because he "has his good sides too", until she sees the light or when he kills her. Sad but true, this happens too many times. I would not make a good social worker as I would beat the cr*p out of every wife beater or child abuser.

Again - there are good muslims, there are bad muslims. Just like with any other ppl. What's next? Those terrible ppl from Tadjikistan?

M-G (the world won't listen)

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Sep 9, 09, 14:53 #26

niejestemcapita:

Are u mad?
Or is this a wind up?

I think she is just making fun on this forum

MareGaea:

If it is true than I can foresee that boyfriend will start beating Java up and she will come crawling back to him time after time because he "has his good sides too", until she sees the light or when he kills her. Sad but true, this happens too many times. I would not make a good social worker as I would beat the cr*p out of every wife beater or child abuser.

Some girls indeed think that a beater can change.

MareGaea:

I like Java coffee

yuk, i prefer kenian :p

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Sep 10, 09, 00:27 #27

java
Java i would say you do bring up two major points and i can tell you that all men are conscious about this: 1. if their women are out every weekend and 2. if shes dressed in such a way that it makes other mens heads turn... but other than that i don't mean to judge you but your story seems strange i'm sorry if i offended you by my previous statement
shelly s:
if wulkan has a non muslim english girlfriend good for him as long as they're both happy

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Sep 10, 09, 00:41 #28

sakena:

if wulkan has a non muslim english girlfriend good for him as long as they're both happy

But that is the whole point - where you live, things may be different, but here in Britain's main Muslim areas (Birmingham, Bradford, east London) Muslim men will definitely take steps to make sure that they are NOT happy - he could even be risking his life (or hers).

java:

He even said that he likes hijab

Looks like he wants a woman who reminds him of his babcia, lol

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Edited by: sakena Sep 10, 09, 00:45 #29

rich55
i agree with you this story doesn't add up how could a boyfriend dictate whether or not his gf has a drivers license... its a law in the "great state"(*sarcastic*) of saudia arabia that women cannot drive (a law which violates womens rights from the Quran because the prophets wife was a business owner so if you allow a woman to own a business you in that same package allow her mobility hence the law is wrong) which is a total load of bull if you ask me women are better drivers than men :D well at least most of us lol but this whole act of a man controlling a womens life as java mentioned is strange as heck but i would give java props on 2 things every man gets "curious" to find out where his gf is on the weekends and every man stares daggers at any other man checking his woman out (in other words he wants to stick very very very close when shes in her bikini or dressed nice lol) but other than that its a load of bull honkey---------
bull honkey lol

OsiedleRuda
well not really if the girl takes a stand and puts her foot down and says this is what i want nobody can do anything about it and if anyone bothers wulkan or the girl they should just call the police and they will be there in a matter of minutes (unlike the polish police lol my husband told me about how once he had to wait 3 hours when he crashed his car :P)

OsiedleRuda

Sep 10, 09, 01:00 #30

sakena:

well not really if the girl takes a stand and puts her foot down and says this is what i want nobody can do anything about it and if anyone bothers wulkan or the girl they should just call the police and they will be there in a matter of minutes

SUCH optimism ;) You REALLY have no idea how things are here in the UK!

And as for calling the cops... lmao, they are too busy clamping down on motoring offences and jailing pensioners for not paying taxes/TV licence fees!

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