Miguel Colombia: I dare you.
If you insist. (But don't complain about the result, because I didn't write the Bible!) If you have a little patience I will post my findings later on.
Miguel Colombia: And I also dare you to prove Christians and Jews base their evil actions on stuff that is found in the bible.
The Bible says Israël belongs to the Jews. Christians and Jews obviously based their arguments on the Bible there, but if you don't believe me, you can always ask the Palestinians why they're living in occupied territory now.
Miguel Colombia: I donīt take your comments personally, for I am an agnostic.
Fair enough.
Miguel Colombia: Yes, the books have things in common. Christianity bases upon Judaism and Islam stole stuff from both.
I don't care who stole from who, because the point is that these religions are all very similar. But to take that whole discussion to a next level; Judeaism was based on a Persian religion. Where did Ibrahim (Abraham.) come from again? Just compare the legend of Mithra and Mithras to the legend of Adam and Eve. (Genesis.) You'll see what I mean at some point. (If you don't already!)
mafketis: Yeah, but Christians and Jews have almost completely outgrown that nonsense. Muslims, as of this writing, have not.
True. But did you know that it used to be the other way around in medieval times? Back then, Muslims were more progressive and tolerant than Christians. (Like it or not!) Christians didn't like all those naked women, belly dancers and Harems. Muslims invented alcohol. (Thanks Muslims!) Muslims had refined art and poetry. Back then, Christians were the Barbarians. (Sorry!)
My point is that a lot of what's going on in the Middle East today has been caused by other countries.
mafketis: Mainstream Muslim thought (to the extent that there is such a thing) at present glories in the nasty things in their religious texts and try to excuse nasty, barbarous behavior (honor killings, female disenfranchisement, genital mutilation etc) as having a religious basis (even when it doesn't as it doesn't in those particular cases).
You're right, and I'm not disputing that, just saying that Christians used to burn ''witches''. (Women who knew something about medicines, or even scientists who claimed that the earth wasn't flat!) Jewish people used to stone people to death if they had sex before marriage. Or people who committed adultery. (Remember the story about Jesus defending the prostitute?) Very funny that, if you keep in mind Solomon had hundreds of wives. (Just because he married them doesn't mean he's not having sex with different women, or does it?) Why is it a deadly sin when you sleep with a different girl outside of your marriage, but why isn't it a sin if you sleep with two different girls who are married to you? It's only a formality, because the bottom line is: You sleep with different women. Solomon could do whatever he wanted, and his people would get stoned to death if they did the same. God's will? Nope. Solomon's will.
My point is that some of these so-called laws in religious texts are just waiting to be abused by a bunch of tyrants. Which happened, and still happens time after time! And that's what I'm talking about. The ideology.
mafketis: The fact that Christians and Jews ignore or rationalize away a lot of the nasty things in their holy texts is a point in their favor.
Yes, it does, but my question is; If Jews and Christians choose to basically ignore everything they dislike about their religion, then why are they still supporting it as a whole, and claim it to be the truth? Why does it have to mean so much to people to call themselves Christian or Catholic (Or whatever!) when they ignore most of its teachings completely in everday life?
Oh, hello! I'm a Christian. Why, you don't follow all these crazy rules do you? No, but I'm still a Christian, ''because''. Know what I mean?
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You're right, I don't get it!
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