Scottish & Polish relationships

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Feb 18, 09, 05:06 #1

Calling all Scots! Sound off!

There seem to be a number of Scottish folks here on this board. Why is that?
What is the draw to things Polish for Scottish nationals?

I am interested because I myself am an American of Scottish descent with a healthy respect for my own cultural heritage as well as that of the Polishians, along with other personal reasons.

And are there any Scots here hooking up with sweet Polish chicks? We really want to hear about this! Perhaps this entire Scot/ Pole intersection is the result of Polish girls going abroad to work and the Scottish men following them back to Poland? (How do Polish boys feel about this?)
Are there any here who are the spawn of Scottish-Polish unions? Ever seen a redheaded Polish baby?
These are the things we want to hear about.

In the spirit of inclusiveness, we will also accept testimonials from Americans and others of Scottish descent who have been drawn to Poland for whatever reason.

So, reveal yourselves my fellow Scots. Even if you’re just “ish”, like me.

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	Feb 18, 09, 05:18 #2
maybe it has something to do with men in skirts... ;)

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Feb 18, 09, 14:04 #3

A redheaded Polish baby is in the offing. I'm Scottish born and bred though I have Irish blood too. I'll be sure to show you the pictures of my kid in the next couple of years.

Relationships have to be worked on constantly, to make sure that it is moving in the right direction. I met my Polish fiancee here. We didn't live together at first but now we are making it work.

What else would you like to know?

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Feb 18, 09, 14:25 #4
seanus i am presuming you are not married (yet) and you have a little one on the way, has this caused any problems (religious wise/in laws etc)?

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Feb 18, 09, 15:09 #5
Not married and no kid on the way yet. We are planning both though.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Feb 18, 09, 15:17 #6
i must have my wires crossed i thought you and your fiancee were expecting.

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Feb 18, 09, 15:42 #7

I'm using my (Polish) husbands account here, having read these forums for a while but never got involved. I'm a Scottish female, and was drawn to my husband not because of him being Polish, but because we liked each other. He didn't speak very good English at first and the effort he made to learn for me, impressed me. We don't have a ginger kid yet, but perhaps in the near future, and since my brother and my dad are both redheads...maybe he or she will be a red headed pole?

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Edited by: Randal Feb 18, 09, 19:01 #8

pgtx:

maybe it has something to do with men in skirts...
;)

Do men wearing skirts really turn Polish girls on? Do you sincerely find this to be hot PGTX??

Seanus:

A redheaded Polish baby is in the offing. I'm Scottish born and bred though I have Irish blood too. I'll be sure to show you the pictures of my kid in the next couple of years.

Relationships have to be worked on constantly, to make sure that it is moving in the right direction. I met my Polish fiancee here. We didn't live together at first but now we are making it work.

Where did you meet your girl, Seanus? Were you drawn to her because she is Polish?

You speak of relationship dynamics. Is this, or have there been, what you feel to be cultural issues due to your different nationalities?

Seanus:

What else would you like to know?

I asked you before if there were any considerations as far as citizenship in regard to where to have your planned baby born but I didn’t see your response. With P-Land in the EU are such concerns no longer valid? What would be your choice?
Not that’s it’s likely to happen anytime soon, I would probably insist my baby be born in America…

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Edited by: Randal Feb 18, 09, 19:18 #9

time means:

you are not married (yet) and you have a little one on the way, has this caused any problems (religious wise/in laws etc)?

Yes, how do the Polish peeps feel about such things?

DRJ:

I'm a Scottish female, and was drawn to my husband not because of him being Polish, but because we liked each other. He didn't speak very good English at first and the effort he made to learn for me, impressed me. We don't have a ginger kid yet, but perhaps in the near future, and since my brother and my dad are both redheads...maybe he or she will be a red headed pole?

Now we are getting somewhere! These are the things we want to hear about!
I particularly like what you say about being impressed at his displayed effort! I would do the same thing to impress one Polish girl!

Someone on the board said that they were drawn to Polish girls abroad due to their lovely East-Euro accents. I know I find this accent to be the very loveliest I have ever heard! Maybe this has gotten the attention of others as well?

Thank you, Mrs. DRJ. Stick around. Maybe we could also hear what Mr. DRJ has to say about all this?

Thank you to all who have contributed so far.
But surely there are more Scots here than this. I am certain I’ve seen more on this board.
Show yourselves, male, plaid skirt-wearers and the Polish girls who love them!

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Feb 18, 09, 20:37 #10
I met her here in this city. I didn't go for her because she was Polish, no. Living here was the factor. Any cultural gaps have been bridged. I'd like to have the baby here but for it to have dual nationality. It will be a bilingual baby, none of this one-sided crap.

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07 ♀	Feb 18, 09, 22:01 #11
Randal: There seem to be a number of Scottish folks here on this board. Why is that? What is the draw to things Polish for Scottish nationals? Scotland and Poland have a long history together. The connections between the two are especially evident around WWII but do go back much further than that. Personally I've always had Polish friends, I think it's just a natural connection.

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Feb 18, 09, 22:05 #12

Randal:

Thank you, Mrs. DRJ. Stick around. Maybe we could also hear what Mr. DRJ has to say about all this?

Thank you to all who have contributed so far.
But surely there are more Scots here than this. I am certain I’ve seen more on this board.
Show yourselves, male, plaid skirt-wearers and the Polish girls who love them!

Mr DRJ (or Danny as I'm otherwise known) has taken his account back, and I'm proud to be a Polish plaid skirt-wearer! I think that the amount of effort (though it was worth every second) we put into our relationship made us want to work at. I wouldn't say that there are huge cultural differences, but the language barrier meant that our first few months of dating were somewhat interesting....we would get some rather odd looks out for dinner with our phrase books!! On the 8th of March we celebrate our 5th anniversary (of our 1st date) so I can happily say it was well worth it

Its interesting that British men often say that they love the Polish accent.....my wife is from the North west Scottish coast and has one of the lovliest accents I've ever heard! Especially when she (attempts to) speak Polish :)

JustysiaSThreads: 15 Posts: 2,869 Joined: Oct 14, 07 MEMBER ♀	Feb 18, 09, 22:43 #13
pgtx: maybe it has something to do with men in skirts... definitely... :)~

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Feb 19, 09, 01:16 #14

PolskaDoll:

Scotland and Poland have a long history together. The connections between the two are especially evident around WWII but do go back much further than that.

Personally I've always had Polish friends, I think it's just a natural connection.

I have researched some the rich history between the two lands, PolskaDoll. And there are a number of groups out there celebrating that historic connection today. But I am more interested in hearing of romantic interaction of today and the reasons for it. For instance, despite that history, this is not why Seanus selected his Polish girl. His seems more the natural result of geographic location, as do Mr. & Mrs. DRJ. Quite pragmatic. Whereas your interest maybe is more focused?
Please tell me more about your multiple daily varied contacts with a Polish man (men?). I assure you, it is only for scientific reasons that I ask. ;)

Is there anyone here who has consciously sought a member of the other culture? Anyone who is draw particularly to the other because of their differences?

Seanus:

Any cultural gaps have been bridged.

What cultural issues were there that required bridging? How did your girl’s parent feel about her bringing home a Scot? Come on, you know what I want here and why. Make with it!

DRJ:

Mr DRJ (or Danny as I'm otherwise known) has taken his account back, and I'm proud to be a Polish plaid skirt-wearer! I think that the amount of effort (though it was worth every second) we put into our relationship made us want to work at. I wouldn't say that there are huge cultural differences, but the language barrier meant that our first few months of dating were somewhat interesting....we would get some rather odd looks out for dinner with our phrase books!! On the 8th of March we celebrate our 5th anniversary (of our 1st date) so I can happily say it was well worth it

Its interesting that British men often say that they love the Polish accent.....my wife is from the North west Scottish coast and has one of the lovliest accents I've ever heard! Especially when she (attempts to) speak Polish :)

Thank you for sharing, Danny. Is Danny a common Polish name? Maybe you descend from Scots yourself? Your written English of eight years seems fine to me. I would have loved to see you and the Mrs. trying to communicate on your first dates! I love your Polish-Scottish love story! I hope the two of you are very happy for many years and she gets her redheaded Polish babies. :)

There is no sweeter music to my ears than a Polish girl speaking slightly fractured English in her Polish accent. It is a sound the birds must envy. It does things to me that I will not write of here!

pgtx:

maybe it has something to do with men in skirts...

JustysiaS:

definitely... :)~

DRJ:

I'm proud to be a Polish plaid skirt-wearer!

Does one see a lot of kilts worn in Poland?
I wish someone would explain to me this apparent fascination girls have to men in skirts. Is this interest just due to the mere novelty of it? The easy access? Some deep-seated perversion?
I myself do not own a skirt but I may have to get one if the Polish ladies like them so!
I think I saw a guy here who goes by the name KiltMaker. I may have to look him up.
How come he hasn’t posted here yet?
And where is that guy who is living my life? He’s the one I should be talking to!

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Feb 19, 09, 01:42 #15

Randal:

I wish someone would explain to me this apparent fascination girls have to men in skirts. Is this interest just due to the mere novelty of it? The easy access? Some deep-seated perversion?

probably the novelty of it and that it's kinda cute, sexy and elegant at the same time... not for all obviously lol. shame you guys wear it only on special occassions! my bf looks ever so dashing in his kilt ;)

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Edited by: PolskaDoll Feb 19, 09, 01:57 #16

Randal:

For instance, despite that history, this is not why Seanus selected his Polish girl. His seems more the natural result of geographic location,

Well, at a guess he didn't "select" a Polish girl at all. His travels took him to Poland where he met a girl whom he connected with and so they are together. Location may be correct but also could have been in any other country and met a Polish girl or indeed a girl from another country either there or in Poland. It's because they connected as people not because of their nationality.

Randal:

. But I am more interested in hearing of romantic interaction of today and the reasons for it.

Well, there is one simple reason for it. Previous to 2004 there were a small amount of Polish people here and now there are thousands. So it's natural that there is more romantic interaction. Again though, people fall in love because they are attracted to a person for a personality reason, not because of where they come from. (If it is an attraction, it will not keep them together if they are not right for each other).

Randal:

Please tell me more about your multiple daily varied contacts with a Polish man (men?). I assure you, it is only for scientific reasons that I ask. ;)

In general terms, I work with Polish men, I socialise with Polish men.

Randal:

I wish someone would explain to me this apparent fascination girls have to men in skirts.

Kilt is quite different from skirt but never mind that. Only men of a certain build can carry off looking good in a kilt, too skinny or too fat and the look is lost. The kilt is a Scottish national dress and when it's worn properly it's fantastic. I get a bit hacked off with this skirt thing, many forget that tradition says the kilt should be worn with nothing underneath, so really it's only hardy men who can wear something that doesn't cover their legs, doesn't protect them from the weather really and don't wear anything under. No comforting trousers for the Scottish man!

RandalThreads: 1 Posts: 758 Joined: Feb 14, 09 ♂	Feb 19, 09, 02:10 #17
Thank you, JustsiaS. :) You are Polish and your boy is Scot? You have come to the right place. Do tell!

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Edited by: Randal Feb 19, 09, 03:20 #18

PolskaDoll:

His travels took him to Poland where he met a girl whom he connected with and so they are together.

Right. Geographic.

PolskaDoll:

could have been in any other country and met a Polish girl

Which, if this were the case, could possibly suggest a certain affinity for Polish girls.

PolskaDoll:

people fall in love because they are attracted to a person for a personality reason, not because of where they come from.

Oh, I well know it. I have said several times that one of the reasons I fell so for my Polish girl was that she was un-Westernized. And this is in fact a part of who she is.

PolskaDoll:

It's because they connected as people not because of their nationality.

To those of us who have had limited exposure, perhaps we possess an elevated appreciation for fine Polish sweeties. But one need not be some weirdo who only targets Polish girls in order to like Polish girls, even if it is part of the attraction. After all, it is still part of who they are as individuals, right?

PolskaDoll:

I get a bit hacked off with this skirt thing

Perhaps this is why you seem a tad annoyed with me.
Being of Scottish descent and having a healthy respect for that heritage, I claim an ancestral right to poke fun at men in dresses. This does not mean that I mean disrespect or hold them in some low regard. No, quite the contrary.
One of my ancestors was a Highlander. Somewhere around here I have an ancient photo of him in his full dress military garb. To his waist it looks like any other military uniform of the era, but from the waist down he’s wearing a skirt! Lol…

Men wearing kilts is quite unique. As with the Polish girls, surely you must appreciate the level of novelty in this for someone who is not exposed to it in their normal day-to-day life.
I have even researched and found my various family tartan setts. I may just send for an authentic Scottish kilt some day. They are very expensive. So no need to be touchy. :)

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Feb 19, 09, 05:37 #19

we will be celebrating 7 years marriage (me scots she polish) our son is red haired and milk bottled skin , the classic scots look :)

met in scotland, 6 months later i moved to Poland permanently 5 months later married. had to be quick before she seen all my faults!! married because she is polish no, because of who she is and what she is, different mind set to any scottish girls i ever met, although where i was looking probably explains that more,

i wear a kilt at every opportunity (because in a suit i look like a bouncer) proud hell yeah, given strange looks and comments when in town sometimes although now not such an oddity,

both her parents dont speak english, the mother used to watch me like a hawk to try and read every move i made but i must admit they are probably the nicest and most caring parents i have ever had the pleasure to meet, when i came 1st time i was left alone with the father and brother for short time as the father wanted to check me out, thank god for the dog who i stroked to hell and smiled like an idiot,,,,

lastly a kilt is a kilt if the wearer is scottish if not it is a skirt , if your great great grandfather was scottish this does not make you scottish, actually some communities like east canada and new zealand where they hold onto their scottish roots more feverishly and in some cases are more scots than the scots then fair enough.

lastly ,lastly

doesnt matter where in the world a kilt is worn it draws attention and is generally regarded as the perfect attire that any man can look good (thank god!)

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Feb 19, 09, 14:19 #20

I am Scottish and I have been with my Polish Gfriend for about a year now. What attracted me to her well, you have never seen her obviously!! For me I was not attracted to her because she was Polish more so I would say we got on with each other well and could have a laugh. To be fair if she was any other nationality it would not have made a difference to me.

So far all going well it has to be said been over to Poland a couple of times and have really enjoyed, may even move out there in a couple of years. As for parents all good there to they are really nice and welcoming everytime I have been over, yes the language barrier is a bit strange but nothing that can not be over come.

In general as has been said above this was always going to happen with the number of Polish in Scotland now that relationships will form. I think in some ways Scots and Poles are quite similiar hence why they get on!!!

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Feb 19, 09, 14:28 #21

I agree, the Scots and Poles have much in common. There was an initial reaction to me being foreign but that subsided as quickly as a Bangladeshi hut.

I am one of those that can pull off wearing a kilt with some aplomb. I have pretty sturdy legs, like a rugby player, and muscly too.

It was just the fact that we met here, that's all. Her being Polish doesn't have too much to do with it. We have built up a fair few commonalities and generally see eye-to-eye.

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Feb 19, 09, 19:50 #22

Randal:

Is Danny a common Polish name?

Its actually Daniel, but when I initially arrived in the UK my boss would always call me 'danny boy' and the name danny just stuck with me. Can't say I've met too many Polish Danny's!

Randal:

Does one see a lot of kilts worn in Poland?
I wish someone would explain to me this apparent fascination girls have to men in skirts. Is this interest just due to the mere novelty of it? The easy access? Some deep-seated perversion?

My wife loves it when I put my kilt on. Admittedly I felt a bit stupid at first, but now I quite like putting it on for weddings, etc. Its nice when you go to a Scottish wedding and all the men have them on.

twojdupa:

both her parents dont speak english, the mother used to watch me like a hawk to try and read every move i made but i must admit they are probably the nicest and most caring parents i have ever had the pleasure to meet, when i came 1st time i was left alone with the father and brother for short time as the father wanted to check me out, thank god for the dog who i stroked to hell and smiled like an idiot,,,,

Lol, this sounds very familar! I felt very awkward when I first met my father-in-law and we could barely communicate, though we laugh about it now. None of my family really speak any English and in particular my parents look at my poor wife likes shes daft when she attempts to speak polish in her scottish accent. Family gatherings leave me exhausted since I have to translate so much.

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Edited by: Randal Feb 19, 09, 20:08 #23

whyikit:

What attracted me to her well, you have never seen her obviously!!

I can only imagine!

whyikit:

For me I was not attracted to her because she was Polish more so I would say we got on with each other well and could have a laugh. To be fair if she was any other nationality it would not have made a difference to me.

Very good.

whyikit:

As for parents all good there to they are really nice and welcoming everytime I have been over, yes the language barrier is a bit strange but nothing that can not be over come.

Thanks for sharing, Whyikit. Good luck with that. :)

Seanus:

It was just the fact that we met here, that's all. Her being Polish doesn't have too much to do with it.

Very well. I’d still like to hear more about all these commonalities and differences people keep mentioning without expanding on.
What sort of name –Scot or Pole- do you think you might give a child?

DRJ:

Its actually Daniel

Is Daniel a Polish name?

DRJ:

My wife loves it when I put my kilt on.

So, now we have a Pole wearing a dress! :)

DRJ:

Family gatherings leave me exhausted since I have to translate so much.

Very interesting.

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Edited by: Randal Feb 19, 09, 20:25 #24

DING! DING! DING!
I think we have our winner!...

twojdupa:

we will be celebrating 7 years marriage (me scots she polish) our son is red haired and milk bottled skin , the classic scots look :)

Excellent, Twojdupa! How about that tyke’s name? Scot or Pole?

twojdupa:

married because she is polish no, because of who she is and what she is, … although where i was looking probably explains that more

Nice girl. Geography. Very well.

twojdupa:

different mind set to any scottish girls i ever met

There it is! I know what you mean!

twojdupa:

the mother used to watch me like a hawk to try and read every move i made but i must admit they are probably the nicest and most caring parents i have ever had the pleasure to meet, when i came 1st time i was left alone with the father and brother for short time as the father wanted to check me out, thank god for the dog who i stroked to hell and smiled like an idiot,,,,

Lol! Very good. Funny stuff.

twojdupa:

a kilt is a kilt if the wearer is scottish if not it is a skirt

Thank you for clearing this up. Again, I meant no offence.

twojdupa:

if your great great grandfather was scottish this does not make you scottish

I agree. I would never pretend to be something I am not. But we can still show reverence for our heritage.

Thank you very much for sharing your story here, Twojdupa. I love it. I wish you and your Polish wife and redhaired baby all the best.

Do they make infant kilts?

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06 ♂	Feb 19, 09, 20:43 #25
Randal: Do they make infant kilts? Yep, kids look cute in their kilts, an arran jumper and big boots ! You can get cheap kilts on Ebay and the like but if you get a proper kilt it will last a lifetime.

RandalThreads: 1 Posts: 758 Joined: Feb 14, 09 ♂	Edited by: Randal Feb 19, 09, 20:47 #26
szkotja2007: it will last a lifetime A baby lifetime? Real kilts from Scotland are very expensive. The one I was looking at was like $800. And I would not put me nor my kid in a kilt with some generic sett pattern. It would have to be authentic.

szkotja2007Threads: 38 Posts: 2,544 Joined: Dec 29, 06 ♂	Feb 19, 09, 20:53 #27
For me - Locally hand made kilt, tartan of choice- £350 Bespoke Prince Charlie jacket ( wide shoulders, av waist ) - £385 five years ago. Sporran £120 Shoes, shirt, sghean dhu etc about £120 Or you can get a kilt from Pakistan for £40

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Edited by: Randal Feb 20, 09, 23:24 #28

Anyone else?

So, no one here is themselves the child of a Scottish/ Polish union?

I’d still like to hear more about all these commonalities and differences between Scots and Poles people keep mentioning without expanding on.

Are there any Americans who got with a Pole here? I initially asked about Scots because of the Scottish presence on this board and the history between the two. Also, there are already threats about Americans and Pole. But I would love to hear from Americans in this situation too!
How about it, any Americans getting on with a polished Polish princess?

JustysiaSThreads: 15 Posts: 2,869 Joined: Oct 14, 07 MEMBER ♀	Edited by: JustysiaS Feb 20, 09, 23:41 #29
Randal: You are Polish and your boy is Scot? yes. his name is Ranald, Randal lol

RandalThreads: 1 Posts: 758 Joined: Feb 14, 09 ♂	Feb 20, 09, 23:53 #30
JustysiaS: yes. his name is Ranald, Randal lol :D Tell us more!

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