Valentines Day & Polish men

pamThreads: 22 Posts: 463 Joined: Oct 11, 11 MEMBER ♀	Edited by: Moderator Feb 9, 12, 20:05 #1
have just been chatting with my lodger about valentines day. i asked him if he was going to be buying e.g flowers or maybe chocolates for his girlfriend who stays over occasionally. he looked totally surprised and said no.is he just unromantic or are all polish men the same? think his girlfriend might be disappointed, she is always buying him little gifts.would be interested to know!!

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Feb 9, 12, 20:07 #2
pam: .is he just unromantic Yes pam: or are all polish men the same? No

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Feb 9, 12, 21:15 #3
pam: he looked totally surprised and said no. Valentines Day is a recent thing in Poland. Older folk might not bother with it and a certain few who object to western traditions might also ignore it. It's one of those days whereby one looks an utter twat for not buying something, just because the next man did.

pamThreads: 22 Posts: 463 Joined: Oct 11, 11 MEMBER ♀	Feb 9, 12, 21:24 #4
Wroclaw: Older folk might not bother with it and a certain few who object to western traditions might also ignore it he is 43, and certainly wouldnt object to western traditions at all! i think kasia will be disappointed next week though!!

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Feb 9, 12, 21:27 #5
pam: he is 43, and certainly wouldnt object to western traditions at all! Yep, just unromantic. You should have a little word about how important it is to a woman...

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,835 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Feb 9, 12, 21:28 #6
Valentine's Day is a purely commercial ploy designed for one purposes alone -- to divest people of their hard-earned cash and make the filthy rich exploiters even filthier. Full stop!

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Feb 9, 12, 21:32 #7
pam: i think kasia will be disappointed next week though!! with all that's going on around him he may change his opinion. kasia may still get a red rose. BTW, it's a red rose here and whatever extra the male of the species can think of. we don't have those big, expensive, padded valentines cards here.

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Feb 9, 12, 21:34 #8
Polonius3: Valentine's Day is a purely commercial ploy Actually it goes back centuries. Even though there's a commercial side nowadays, it's good to celebrate love!

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	Edited by: pgtx Feb 9, 12, 21:34 #9
don't force him to be romantic! hahaha i'm not a fan of Valentine's Day. i prefer when my husband brings me flowers/gifts or whatever any day of a year, without the pressure of tv commercials and calendar date. that is when i know it comes from his heart. if your friend Kasia does not expect impossible from her man, she'll be happier. and him too.

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,835 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Feb 9, 12, 21:36 #10
Love of money by the Valentine's entrepreneurs?

jasondmzkThreads: 31 Posts: 503 Joined: Jun 1, 11 ♂	Feb 9, 12, 21:37 #11
I think a Valentine's Day success is inversely proportionate to the energy expended celebrating it. The Valentine's where I bought giant stuffed bears and roses by the dozen always ended being the worst of the bunch. A quiet dinner and a rose will go a long way towards expressing romance and appreciation.

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,478 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER ♂	Edited by: Wroclaw Boy Feb 9, 12, 21:45 #12
Polonius3: Valentine's Day is a purely commercial ploy designed for one purposes alone -- to divest people of their hard-earned cash and make the filthy rich exploiters even filthier. Full stop! Its got nothing on Crimbo though, or Easter.

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Feb 9, 12, 21:51 #13

I agree...Valentine's Day is something for younger generations. Its a western (I think even Jewish) tradition, but young poles have accepted it.

Actually, in terms of translation, guys can say "mam walentynke" meaning that they have a valentine partner. The word "walentynka" I interpret as specifying a female. How do girls say "I have a valentine" because if a female says "mam walentynke" it seems as though they're referring to a female partner. Any thoughts on translation???

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Edited by: JonnyM Feb 9, 12, 22:00 #14
Polonius3: Love of money by the Valentine's entrepreneurs? Love of life, and the anticipation of spring frolics. Kazikowski: Its a western (I think even Jewish) tradition, English, originally. Celebrated for centuries by country people. It was always an occasion for young men to declare their intentions.

modafinilThreads: - Posts: 831 Joined: Jun 28, 11 ♂	Feb 9, 12, 22:01 #15
Kazikowski: I agree...Valentine's Day is something for younger generations. Its a western (I think even Jewish) tradition, but young poles have accepted it. I didn't know Saint Valentine was Jewish. Interesting and weird the things you learn here,

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Feb 9, 12, 22:09 #16

JonnyM:

You should have a little word about how important it is to a woman...

already have, but its falling on deaf ears...however.. i am stubborn. if it kills me i will drag him out to get him to get her a little something. or suggests he simply cooks her a nice meal. of course its commercial and just an excuse for florists to put up the price of roses, but women like this stuff!! also posted thread as a bit of light relief from the normal doom and gloom on here:)

KazikowskiThreads: 23 Posts: 107 Joined: Oct 2, 08 ♂	Feb 9, 12, 22:10 #17
lol for gods sake...my key word was "I THINK" meaning I wasn't sure.

modafinilThreads: - Posts: 831 Joined: Jun 28, 11 ♂	Feb 9, 12, 22:11 #18
Kazikowski: lol for gods sake...my key word was "I THINK" meaning I wasn't sure Just toying, dude.

KazikowskiThreads: 23 Posts: 107 Joined: Oct 2, 08 ♂	Feb 9, 12, 22:14 #19
i know

pamThreads: 22 Posts: 463 Joined: Oct 11, 11 MEMBER ♀	Feb 9, 12, 22:16 #20
Wroclaw: we don't have those big, expensive, padded valentines cards here. thank god for that!! tacky, tacky, tacky!!!!

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Feb 9, 12, 22:22 #21

Kazikowski:

Its a western (I think even Jewish) tradition,

Good ole PF to attract a Jew-hater to even the most innocuous thread.
I buy one red rose for my loved-one on Valentine's day. It's not because I'm a sucker for the gross commercializion of Christmas, etc. In fact we spent no more last Christmas than in any other week. I do it because it's a nice gesture. Who says it has to be old to be good?

dtaylor5632Threads: 49 Posts: 4,459 Joined: May 2, 09 ♂	Feb 9, 12, 22:28 #22
The day was first established by Pope Gelasius I in 496 AD by the RCC. Though doubt it had many of it's modern day practises. The RCC removed it from the calender in 1969.

modafinilThreads: - Posts: 831 Joined: Jun 28, 11 ♂	Feb 9, 12, 22:34 #23
teflcat: Good ole PF to attract a Jew-hater to even the most innocuous thread. Where's the hatred? That he thought Jews had a day to celebrate Love. Man, they are so evil, those Jews, celebrating love like they do.

Des EssientesThreads: 11 Posts: 2,318 Joined: Feb 6, 10 ♂ [Suspended]	Feb 9, 12, 22:34 #24
dtaylor5632: The day was first established by Pope Gelasius I in 496 AD by the RCC. Though doubt it had many of it's modern day practises. St. Valentine was martyred for disobeying the emperor and clandestinely marrying Roman soldiers to their sweethearts when it was forbidden for soldiers to marry. So one can see how this saint's day became associated with romance.

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Feb 9, 12, 22:37 #25

Des Essientes:

St. Valentine was martyred for disobeying the emperor and clandestinely marrying Roman soldiers to their sweethearts when it was forbidden for soldiers to marry. So one can see how this saint's day became associated with romance.

I was told in primary school that while imprisoned he would send out messages of hope that started the tradition of Valentine cards. Mrs Migdal was Polish though, so she could have been making it up.

Des EssientesThreads: 11 Posts: 2,318 Joined: Feb 6, 10 ♂ [Suspended]	Feb 9, 12, 22:39 #26
modafinil: I was told in primary school that while imprisoned he would send out messages of hope that started the tradition of Valentine cards. I have heard this too. they were signed "Your Valentine" hence the term used today.

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Feb 9, 12, 22:40 #27
pam: thank god for that!! tacky, tacky, tacky!!!! You should see some of the decorations festooning bars in Warsaw!

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Feb 9, 12, 22:51 #28

Talk about tacky...
I made this at my work today during an hour of boredom! :D

haha

donlou31Threads: 1 Posts: 38 Joined: Mar 30, 10 ♀	Feb 9, 12, 22:57 #29
You should see some of the decorations festooning bars in Warsaw! Not just the bars....most of the shops where i live have decorations in the windows. Going into Kabaty Tesco this evening there was a new renault car parked outside the entrance, decked out with love hearts with an advert to buy it for your valentine!! :@

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Feb 9, 12, 22:58 #30

modafinil:

teflcat: Good ole PF to attract a Jew-hater to even the most innocuous thread.

Where's the hatred? That he thought Jews had a day to celebrate Love. Man, they are so evil, those Jews, celebrating love like they do.

Yes. I over-reacted. It must be a combination of tiredness (euphemism) and the weary expectation of racism on PF. Apologies to Kazilowski. And thanks to modnafil for my deserved chastisement. and so to bed...

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