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Reporting Illegal polish workers in UK to Hm customs


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manser [Guest]
Edited by: manser  Dec 12, 06, 15:57  #1

ok fellas, I know you shoudlnt post such threads but want to know the punishment for having an illegal job along with illegal flat. whats the punishment?, paying no tatx, paid cash in hand and sharing the rent between 4 ppl with each paying 35 quid each no contract no paper work ect.

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Stupidwelsh [Guest]
Edited by: Stupidwelsh  Dec 12, 06, 16:35  #2

Why do you ask here, is this the Lawyers R Us website?

It would depend on the country, and what is an illegal job, do you mean say being an murderer for hire and reward? What is an illegal flat? Usualy it is the landlord who is responsible for a flat, the tenant being responsible for the rent- if the flat became ‘illegal’ then it would be the Landlord’s responsibility.

Tax evasion is treated seriously, I have a friend serving 7 years after being fined £332,0000, HE WAS EMPLOYING PEOPLE CASH IN HAND.


Try looking here hmrc.gov.uk

Your local council can advise on 'illegal flats' I'm sure

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 12, 06, 16:40  #3

Im asking because I reported 4 polish ppl to customs for working illegally and yes living illegally too. Fine, they would be out of work and a flat by the looks of things. Im waiting to hear back from customs, yet to provide a witness statemnet.

Sorry to hear about your friend. I never grass but this is an exception for certain reasons.

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 12, 06, 16:42  #4

I tried that website but to no avail.

I reported it about 3 weeks ago and heard nothing yet but they ddi say it will take a while since other cases will be before mine.

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BubbaWoo
  Dec 12, 06, 16:43  #5

explain who they were hurting manser... and how...

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 12, 06, 16:43  #6

working illegaly in factory, paid cash in hand, live in flat, have NO residential permit, tax ecasion basically ect. thats their stats so far.

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 12, 06, 16:44  #7

Hurting the tax system. My reporting is perfectly legal

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 12, 06, 16:46  #8

share rent between 4 of them. 35 each per week. some dodgy changes to the falt itself. the guy must have changed a living room into a bathroom.......maybe illegal changes to a hosue withotu lcoal authrites eprmission too on the list. but more interested in the punishment for the 4 polish people. 3 males 1 female.

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BubbaWoo
  Dec 12, 06, 16:46  #9

Quoting: manser, Post #7
My reporting is perfectly legal


i dont think anyone would deny that what you have done is legal... but it sounds as tho there is more to it than that

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 12, 06, 16:47  #10

They can live and work here legally and they have EU passports, well ID card but they chose to do the oppsoite. alonmg with no residential permit which u must have after 3 months i believe.

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BubbaWoo
  Dec 12, 06, 16:47  #11

there is more to it than you are saying... what did they do to piss you off...?

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 12, 06, 16:48  #12

Oh there is oviously as your gut reaction tells you but im with-holding that information.

the HM customs wont care how I feel and why i reported it, their more interested in seeing things as black and white. like the wya they do things in court.

cause and effect.

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 12, 06, 16:49  #13

long story anyway and not interested in repeating it all. to personal. Main thing is their breaking the law and im not.

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 12, 06, 16:52  #14

I gave names, mobile numbers and the address to the flat, along with my detaisl too an the *story* which was all true on my behalf. Never lie ebcause it come sback at you in the end. Im just waiting to hear a reply from them. been at the most 3 weeks.

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Stupidwelsh [Guest]
  Dec 12, 06, 16:53  #15

The only way I can imagine that a Polish worker can in anyway be an illegal worker in the uk is if they haven’t applied for the Workers Registration Scheme, however that isn’t their crime as it is the employer not the employee who is responsible to ensure conformance.

So you grassed up the employer, they will be fined, and serves them right.

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BubbaWoo
  Dec 12, 06, 16:55  #16

Quoting: manser, Post #12
Oh there is oviously as your gut reaction tells you but im with-holding that information.


fair dinkums... but from where i am standing you sound like someone who has a grudge... ok... so these guys were breaking some rules... so what... what are they really doing other than trying to get by...

until you explain yourself it looks as tho you are the wrong do-er here... so what if they are sharing the rent between them... havent registered for residents permits... made changes to their house... are getting paid cash in hand... they arent murdering people, having sex with small children or plotting revolution...

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 12, 06, 16:56  #17

and the illegal workers will be out of a job, and the customs will check the workers up to they wont stop at that.

if they do their job stheir check residential permits too. up to them though.

You should be angry too, you pay taxes dont you so why should othe rppl get away with it

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 12, 06, 16:57  #18

still illegal bubba

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BubbaWoo
  Dec 12, 06, 16:57  #19

what... and you never broke the law...?

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Stupidwelsh [Guest]
  Dec 12, 06, 16:58  #20

You don’t need a residency permit if you are Polish and wish to live or work in the UK

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 12, 06, 16:59  #21

yes I have and i got a first caution for it, u know what I did, i kicked the crap out of the guy who tried to attack me back in school, along with thrwiing a brick through his front room window while his aprents were watching tv at the time lol. i was 18 then, yes doing a-levels in sxith form.

other than that no and that was justice and i still dont regret doing it.

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 12, 06, 17:00  #22

Yes you do welsh, check the british embassy or poliosh embassy fi you want.

Same gos for me if i want to live and work in poalnd too. i know for a fact becasue i phoned the polish embassy msyelf.

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 12, 06, 17:01  #23

im 20 now and going 21 in january 31st.

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Stupidwelsh [Guest]
  Dec 12, 06, 17:02  #24

All that will happen is that the company that employed them, and the landlord who rented them the flat might end up in court. The Poles may find they have to pay tax on their earnings, but that is all- but as they have no payslips it’ll take a while for the Revenue and Customs to come up with a figure for the missed tax, probably about 3 years.

The criminals here aren’t the Polish workers but their employer and landlord.

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 12, 06, 17:04  #25

main thing is their be out of a job and roof over their heads. I wouldnt report good ppl to HM customs, im not that twisted or evil.

so dont paint a picture of em just yet.

and i would be happy with that result.

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 12, 06, 17:05  #26

The poles are clearly aware that they are working illegally. im making sure they pay for it.

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Stupidwelsh [Guest]
  Dec 12, 06, 17:07  #27

Quoting: manser, Post #22
Yes you do welsh, check the british embassy or poliosh embassy fi you want.



PLEASE READ
workingintheuk.gov.uk/working_in_the_uk/en/homepage/your_st atus/european_citizens.html

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BubbaWoo
  Dec 12, 06, 17:08  #28

you were lucky to get just a caution manser... kicking the crap out of someone is not on... naughty... gbh... you hurt somebody... even if he was a wanker...

leave these guys alone... they are just trying to get by... i dont want to be patronising but when you are a little older you might understand how difficult it can be just to get by... getting paid cash in hand aint no big deal... living four to a flat aint no bid deal...

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 12, 06, 17:08  #29

haha welsh that is a WORKING PERMIT. you NEED a RESIDENTIAL PERMIT all EU national NEED a residential permit THEY DO NOT NEED A WORK PERMIT.

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manser [Guest]
  Dec 12, 06, 17:09  #30

sorry to sound rude mate no offence.

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