Retire in Poland - Good or Bad Idea?

they complain about everything, you name it a pom will complain, the weather, wages, food, even the time of day,

haven't your heard of the term "whinging pom"

There is nothing more disgusting and rude in poland watching ex poles (mainly females who have struck it rich with an american partner) useing there fake american accent and condescending manner put down people in shops, restaurants, etc.etc.
Whereas once they were a nobody, they think a fist full of dollars makes them a somebody.

There is nothing more disgusting and rude in poland watching ex poles (mainly females who have struck it rich with an american partner) useing there fake american accent and condescending manner put down people in shops, restaurants, etc.etc.
Whereas once they were a nobody, they think a fist full of dollars makes them a somebody.


Not only females!!!!!!!
That is true , I have already met few people like this in England.Just ignore and avoid them. These are usually quite primitive people with BIG insecurities.

they complain about everything, you name it a pom will complain, the weather, wages, food, even the time of day,

haven't your heard of the term "whinging pom"

I know they do- I don't know about food- usually that are quite patient even if food and service is bad.

Bad public transport is the only thing I can really think of that gets on the nerves of most english people



Depends on the person!



Just because we expect a certain standard??? what do expect us to do, just take bad service (weather is easily dealt with we go away several times a year to enjoy the good weather), wages, not a problem most who work hard get paid well...not sure I have ever heard anyone complained about the time of the day...


[/quote]haven't your heard of the term "whinging pom[/quote]

The above is only used by Aussis - and I dont like the term "pom" either

it is quite funny be Polish and English are little moaners just moaning about different things. I think Shelley that you can miss a little if you don't speak polish- it is difficult to explain but it is easier to get to know other culture by learning their language. My husband is English and doesn't speak polish and sometimes I can't explain him things.


But....polish like moaning about money( English not at all) the wealthier they are the more they moan and politics , so often. Especially older generation.
English moan probbaly about some inconvenience.
And it is quite strange but I have impression that old people in England are so cheerfull and young moan and moan - opposite that in Poland.

Maybe except Victor Meldrum

[bJust because we expect a certain standard??? what do expect us to do, just take bad service (weather is easily dealt with we go away several times a year to enjoy the good weather),

Weather!!! It is great subject for little chit-chat if we don't have much more to talk with someone- like queueing at dring machine at work.
I like it and I do it- I am just wondering if I start doing it in Poland?

Service- I think that you don;t complain enough about servicxe all this english politeness....
I like it but ... I am not really complaining person if | don't like restaurant I will not go there againg that is all.But as nearly noone complain loudly I would feel really bad to do it.

I went once to coffe-bar -Caffe Nero- in Peterborough and girl servse me coffe but already silt quite much on the saucer she noticed it but didn't bother to wipe. Little thing. BUT IT IS BAD SERVICE FOR ME.

Sorry, but your dollar - your problem. Don't blame Poland and polish economy for turning the dolar into shit level. For a prise of huge economy crisis China can blow the american economy near into the stoneage level (U.S. goverment has debt in China big as the whole milky way galaxy)

Yeah maybe we should implement child labor and sweat shops.

You don't need to do it. Nike, Adidas, Puma for example are in very good shape thanks to child labor. Child labor looks not good in TV so factorias are in Far East and everbody's happy.

But that is not the subject. I'm sorry for of topic.

lol yeah we're all wayyyy off topic.

I'd retire in Poland

I plan to retire in Poland too.

I admire foreigners (non-Polish citizens) who plan to retire in Poland without the knowledge of the Polish language and culture.

Mr.Dobry Wujek, first shoud learn how to write in English without mistakes, and second he should stay within the topic "retire in Poland or not" instead of naming people and criticizing their opinions. There are always positive and negative sides of any relocation. It depends on age, health, merital status, family, friends, financial situation, courage, hobbies adaptation to a change, character, etc. It is for sure easier for a native Polish than to a stranger to go to Poland and start living on his own, but everybody should go there at least once before making any decision and stay there for a month or two to learn the country. Good friend and a good guide book about the country should be always at hand on daily bases. Do not go anywhere if you are old and you do not have friends or family there. Money is not enough. Mr Dobry Wujek, do not say that you are Polish. Shame.

He had more brains than that Empty Dumbo that keeps up with posting
than brain dead flitertation.

Retire in Poland?
Nice in theory, but it really depends what you want from your life (well the rest of your life...)

Firstly, you will be moving to a country where it's difficult to meet people. Most people in PL spend all their time watching TV. Or drinking; they don't go out. Hardly at all... They have no interests aside from TV and alcohol and rodzina (family). They don't do dinner parties or restaurants. They live a family life - not a public life. So if you've been used to a good social life, forget it here. (Unless you have a big rodzina/family).

Secondly, the countryside here is generally the land of the poor. It's not like elsewhere in the West where the poor live in the towns and the rich live in the countryside. Here it's the lowest of the low who populate most of "na wsi". And they don't make good Dinner party guests - unless you like $1 fruit wine and lots of swearing in your conversation. Of course, if you have lots of money you can buy your own mansion house and create your own social circle. But don't expect anything from the locals, except jealousy.

Thirdly, healthcare here is not so good, but it's cheap. Take your pick. If your of the age where you might need it, this is a serious concern. It's cheap, but generally it's shit. Having said that you can rent a full time carer here for less than $500 per month - so that's a serious positive!

OK, so money goes a little further here... But money isn't everything. It's very cheap in Indonesia - perhaps you'd like to move there?

Fourth, if you're retiring, you want good company, above there's one thing that really matters - people! If you have good people where you live, why move to PL? It's very unlikely you'll meet open-minded, inspiring people here. (This is really extension of point 1, but what the hell - people are important!)

I'm sorry if some of you readers are offended by what I'm writing. But I'm an outsider who's lived in Poland for nearly 10 years. I'm eminently qualified to write on this subject. And In truth (speaking only personally) I wish I'd never came here.

Arrgghh,

No need to be sorry. There is a lot truth to what you said.



Do you live "na wsi"?

Hi Opts,

No, but I used to live 'na wsi' in GB. For a foreigner, living in the Polish wies (countryside) is a bit like living on an oil rig in the North Sea, and about as friendly (unless you like drinking a lot of alcohol and not much else.)
I would dearly love to live in the countryside - civilised countryside - once again. But it seems it will take another generation or two (25-50 years) before the Polish wies becomes civilised.

Arrgghh,

I should add, there are many cities in Poland that offer all types of entertainment and opportunities to socialize.

Arrgghh,

Why did you retired in Poland?
What city do you live in?
Why did you select that city?
Before retiring in Poland, had you considered other countries?
What was wrong with other countries?

Are you aware of escapeartist.com

Arrgghh,

I think that everything is very subjective.


drinking....
I moved to England I I would say that poople don't do here much more except drinking, drinking,...and more drinking and what goes more talking lots of crap later..And binge drinking seems to to be latest fashion.


What is wrong about being family orientated for me it is very normal and healthy attitude.I noticed that English l really stuggle with creating strong family bonds. They don't exist here.
I lived in krakow where I could go with my friends for a coffe, meal, drink...to theathre , cinema, concert to philharmony., exhibiton....n UK is again drink, drink,.......and ok going to London for some show for very overpriced cost.

Health?

it is not Poland but UK that old people are starved to death in hospital because nurses are so busy to help them with eating, the same happens in houses for old people.
Children are fed at scholl with really awful food.

it is country where is enough money for benefits and expensive hotels for terrorists but not enough for medicine for people who have cancer.

So as you see everything is just point of view.

and I suppose that you are quite narrow minded, cocky and shallow person so you better go quickly to your own country and forget about Poland.

Too sophisticated for you.

Arrgghh,

Your comments are pretty spot on, although a lot of people in other countries only existance is drink and watch TV, the reason why people drink in poland is that they see no future in what they do...

Hi Iwona,
Yes, sometimes I wish I was a narrow minded, cocky and shallow person, it would be much easier to live in Poland.

Actually I'm very broad-minded, have "completed higher education", travelled to over 50 countries all over the world, and spend far too much time thinking...

Which is one of the reasons I see the situation here in Poland in such a tragic light. It really is one of the most miserable places on earth (believe me, I've seen a lot of it!), though perhaps Russia is worse, and Manilla in the Philippines.

As for cocky... No, not cocky, just f*cking pissed off with Poland. Wish I never came here, rather moved some place else where the people are a bit more open, confident and cheerful.

Well, from my observations your are very, very close.... And when I'm saying close, I really think you are nanometres rather than millimetres away from achieving your goal.



Maybe you should do all this things again? After that, come back to this forum, and we will judge whether you are still a true Dumbass, or a OK “dude”.

Don't forget that you'll be taxed on this nice windfall and that includes your nice pension and if you don't they'll find you and the penalties are pretty big!

Arrgh
I do have some sympathy with your views. Everyone in my town constantly asks "why did you ever want to come to Poland there is nothing here ?" . My line is that you all are trying to get to england for opportunity but that lies here (I do believe that).
However somethimes I wonder if they will ever get thier faces out thier beers and actually make Europe happen for them. The first move to go and get some money from the richer countries is very understandable , the next phase in the country is decisive......
If the atmosphere and lack of any enthusiasm continued in my area for the next 10 years I am sure I will be writing the same thing.
I guess what I am saying is Its a vicous circle that they have to break free from.

Like depression really

Hi Janf!
Agree with you. I'm trying hard to be enthusiastic, but it's hard when everyone around you here in Polska seems to be a zombie.

I've never said the UK is perfect. Far from it. One of the main reasons I left for Poland was that the UK had so much wrong with it and was so insular.

Sometimes "you don't know what you've lost till it's gone" (to quote a slightly famous pop song). Now there is a great deal that I value about the UK. But there's far far more that I dislike about Polska.

And I also see how much work there is to do in Polska before it becomes a "civilized" country, which it most certainly isn't at the moment.

Depression... Hmm. I guess it comes in phases, depending how often I have to go to places like Ursynów or Bemowo in Warsaw. Perhaps the trick is to avoid those areas and the rest of time drink lots of vodka?

You sound like the sort of typical British whinger who can't appreciate the good things about the UK,so you go overseas and continue whinging because you can't appreciate any good things in your new country.