Shootings in America; over 30 people shot

This sounds like rampant paranoia to me!!!!!!!!! Who exactly are you afraid of???

Larry, I can tell you since our familys lived here in the states, I have never seen a gun
in our home, never was there one for my grandfather, who came in 1901. nor on my
moms side of the family , none of my relatives aside from those who are in law
enforcement own guns.

none of my family that I know of ( know more then those distant cousins) own guns
either.

The only cousin who was shot, due to a gun, was one that, unfortunately was involved
in Drugs, and prob more, but it was wrong place situation.
that was quite a long time ago. no gun will enter my home, and my daughters will
not marry, or date a gun happy hunter, I will step in. they know, I teach them real
world issues. real life issues. I dont candy coat anything! this is life, this is how mom
did it. this is what to avoid, this is what happens! they understand and it should be
how things are. never hide anything, because it will be that same thing that causes
the most pain and I would rather scare the pants of my daughters then lose them
later on. GUNS + Carelessness - bad news. totally against them and also to boot
Im for the democrats. seen the congressman for illinios last night, he made some
sense, wish he was running for the pres.

Any murder is tragic but it is easy to lose a sense of perspective, or value one life more than another.

30 people die in one incident in America and it is tragic world news. But how many innocent people die in iraq every day?
On Saturday 14th it was 47 dead and 224 wounded
On Sunday 15th it was only 45 dead

In the case of Iraqi civilians actually killed by US soldiers, only about 1/3 receive a "condolence payment" and these are capped at $2500

I recall the furore that Ralph Nader caused when he equated a car design decision that the cost of re-designing a gas tank, compared to the probable compensation payments to crash victims wasn't worth it - and an Iraqi life is valued at $2500!

The "war on terror" counted in terms of "an eye for an eye" is a staggering over-reaction, in terms of "a life for a life" it is an obscene massacre.

The value of a life has nothing to do with ethnicity, wealth, age or gender. Each life is worth more than any government could ever pay.

I sympathise deeply with all who grieve and I loathe hypocrisy and senseless killing, irrespective of "motive" or belief.
If you believe in God, pray for all his children in every place

Way of the "civilised" world ?

On Saturday it was :"At least 36 people have been killed and more than 160 hurt in a suicide car bomb attack in the Iraqi city of Karbala, officials say."

Yesterday :"Ten policemen have been killed in a suicide bombing in Afghanistan, security sources say."

Last night:"At least 33 people have been trapped in a coal mine in central China, state media has reported."

Hardly any media coverage at all in the west. All depends on your viewpoint, I suppose.

Still if guns are easy to get hold, do not be too surprised if they get used now & then.

As Eddy Izzard says :“And the National Rifle Association says that, "Guns don't kill people, people do,” but I think the gun helps, you know? I think it helps. I just think just standing there going, "Bang!" That's not going to kill too many people, is it? You'd have to be really dodgy on the heart to have that…”

The value of a life has nothing to do with ethnicity, wealth, age or gender. Each life is worth more than any government could ever pay.

Sorry have to disagree many people throw away their right to life, these include child molesters and (certain) murderers.

Well, Americans are not the only violent. Turns out he was Asian, South Korean national:


TheDude says strict gun laws will never prevent anyone from buying them illegally. I can go buy one now for $200...anywhere. Most gun owners use them responsibly.

American citizen?

It's not an exclusive US thing since we had 2 in Canada, the last one in Montreal 2006 in September.

There is no simple way to answer why such things happened.
He definately was a desparate man, however he is not the only one.

I would say, that due to huge publicity of such tragedies in the past, people copy certain behaviors and plant strange ideas in their heads.
In times of desparation and isolation, people look for all kinds of outleats, not always the wisest ones.
However, if it wasn't so easy to obtain the gun, over 30 peolple could have been alive today.
Bowling for Columbine comes to mind.

no he wasnt. thought I heard that on the news. not sure. oh they just said south
korean national.. student at the school. so no, not citizen.

He's only been in the US since 92. So, still Korean...to me anyway.

"He definately was a desparate man" They're saing that he was a loner.

majoring in english, loner, undergraduate from korea, they are still gathering information on what/why. the first story I heard was he was argueing with his girlfriend.
but I havent heard any more since.

The big question that usually arises from a school shooting is "where did the assailant get the gun". Usually it is from home, or a friend/relative. Doesn't anyone lock these up!

March 98 Jonesboro, Arkansas
11 and 13 year old cousins lure students outside w/false fire alarm and open fire, after one of the boys was jilted by a girlfriend. 27 shots fired, 4 girls and a teacher killed.

May 1998 Oregon
15 year old kills 2 classmates and his parents. Says voices in his head instructed him.

April 1999 Littleton, CO
Klebold and Harris kill 12 other students, a teacher, and then themselves in a detailed, carefully planned assault.

April 1999 Taber, Alberta
14 year old shoots 2 students with a 22 rifle, killing one and wounding the other.

May 1999 Conyers, Georgia
15 year old opened fire at school with a 22 rifle, shooting 6 people. Boy was taking medication for bi-polar disorder.

November 1999 Deming, New Mexico
13 year old boy shoots 13 year old girl in back of head in a school lobby. Girl was hospitalized and later was taken off life support.

March 2000 Mt. Morris, Michigan
6 year old boy kills 6 year old girl after a playground scuffle. Boy found gun at home, with 3 bullets inside.

None of these incidents should have ever happened. There are many reasons why they did. Availability of guns, lack of supervision (parents have the responsiblity to pry into their kids business!), ignoring warning signs, violence on television-video games-movies, lack of education so teachers know what to watch for in potential assailants, lack of ample school security, and the list just goes on.....

The streets. You can buy hand guns cheap. I doubt that they'd let a Korean national purchase a hand gun

they found a receipt in his pocket for a hand gun purchased in march

Which means he came to the USA as an 8 year old....at an age when you are most impressionable/want to fit in........so by now well steeped in the American ways......to me...he would sound/act/be a USA national.

He decided to mimic the previous gun disasters which now are an irregular but all too common event in American life.

As a legal permanent U.S. resident, Cho had the same rights as a citizen for the purposes of buying and possessing firearms. In Virginia, a green card holder must establish that he has been a resident of the state for at least 90 days by providing a valid photo ID plus documentation such as a utility bill or lease...
The state's firearms purchase eligibility test lists 16 questions that all must be answered "no" for the purchase to go forward
Since 1993 it has been illegal for any person not a licensed firearms dealer to purchase more than one handgun within any 30-day period. The state does not maintain registration lists of firearms owners.

Err.... guess they did let him. Opened mouth...inserted foot.

Good point. But, I was raised in the American ways. I'm a good lad

http://www.tmz.com/tmz_main_video?titleid=769369392

deep down... most americans fear that one day the brits will say "ok... you had your fun... now its time to give the colonies back... they dont belong to you and you seem to have made a bit of a mess"... this is why the average american feels an overwhelming right to keep and bare arms... its obviously not to protect themselves from the indians anymore... duh...

Dude says that's right. Our gov't will never protect our homes. Come on over, just leave that puppet blair right where he is

Tea time

Put that lighter down Casp

There are already in US, many gun laws that are on the books, but

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NOT BEING ENFORCED.
Lawyers for anti-gun lobby are making up more and more laws that people are not aware of, that will take more of our rights away.
Our telephone books in US boast the thickest part of the pages are LAWYERS.

Take the cars off the road, they kill more people than do guns!

Hard to say If more restricted access to guns would be good for America because there are so many of them that criminals would still have them, but in Poland I think that very limited access to guns shouldn't be changed.

same in ireland too. though i dont think the gun control would solve all these issues here.
This guy could find a gun as we all could no doubt, if we REALLY wanted

Sorry, but the government is going to use this terrible slaughter as another good
excuse to ban handguns. Most licenced handgun owners are responsible, and
God fearing.
With crime in our country escalating, the public has to protect itself, that is why
private homes keep loaded handguns. What is the crime rate in Switzerland?

It is a national tradgedy. Our hearts go out to those innocent victims.
However, the school must take part of the responsibility because of the 2 hr.
lapse of warning the rest of the students.

That's why I say that It's a bit different in America.

Here I preffer to be not armed and be attacked (If that has to happen) by not armed criminals than be armed and be attacked by armed criminals.

Good way to put it, yes, things are different here. not always for the good, but
no country is picture perfect.

This is the truth. Because human beings are not perfect. People don't start taking action until directly or indirectly affected to the core of their being.

at the end of the day, its down to the individual.

their profile, their upbringing, education, experiences, genetics, habits etc.

it is sure to say some are found more often in one place than another but i think that just means the gov't should take a more involved and interested role in trying to remedy the situation.

I wouldnt blame to US citizens or a society at large for the actions of the few or the one