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Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland?


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Tran Anh
Edited by: Tran Anh  Dec 19, 07, 04:54  #301

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
Tja...millions of Poles under German rule!
Only few Germans under polish rule!

It's as simple as that!


Nah, you 'had' twice their population and a lot more luck (since France can't be compared with Russia in terms of militancy). And even now, your chancelloress would get pissed in their magazines as frequently as any porno starlet. What an embarrassment for a proper Nazi male like you, eh!

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Bratwurst Boy
  Dec 19, 07, 04:58  #302

Quoting: Tran Anh
Nah, you 'had' twice their population and a lot more luck (since France can't be compared with Russia in terms of militancy). And even now, your chancelloress would get pissed in their magazines as frequently as any porno starlet. What an embarrassment for a proper Nazi male like you, eh!



???

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southern
  Dec 19, 07, 05:00  #303

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
If we do something we do it right! :)


Another myth.You left the gypsies in Slovakia and the Jews in Hungary.

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Polson
  Dec 19, 07, 05:01  #304

Quoting: Tran Anh
What an embarrassment for a proper Nazi male like you, eh!


A Nazi ? Are you BB ?...

;)

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Bratwurst Boy
  Dec 19, 07, 05:05  #305

I think TrannAnni is drunk!
:):):)

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Polson
  Dec 19, 07, 05:06  #306

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
I think TrannAnni is drunk!
:):):)


Then i hope he's more drunk than you are Nazi ;)

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Bratwurst Boy
  Dec 19, 07, 05:09  #307

Quoting: Polson
Then i hope he's more drunk than you are Nazi ;)


I'm sure of that!

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Matyjasz
  Dec 19, 07, 06:33  #308

Quoting: Bratwurst Boy
Tja...millions of Poles under German rule!
Only few Germans under polish rule!

It's as simple as that!


Bboy, you sound like a broken record. I'm still waiting for your reply to my arguments you know. :)


Tran Anh, I coul not have said it better myself. Very good post.

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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Dec 19, 07, 09:08  #309

I have just made reflection ... yes the discussion with this nazi scum goes for nowhere ... and I used racist slogans to hurt this nazi scum ... but I started to fight in mud with him and his pathetic world ... ehhhhh

but the fact is that Germans started to talk about history like BB and it isnt good sign ... I m not talking about war or sth but there will be some tensions ... (history becomed problem for Germans it is noticable)

as to this Gold ... it wasnt mainstream story but the fact is that somewhere in Lower silesia there is this gold ... I m not going to talk about details because it is long story ;) BTW very interesting ...

as to Russians it is much different story ... than Germans ... all in all Russians stoped Germans (even they cooperated before) and even they killed so many Polish people ... Nazi germans were the worst ... (and onence more a litle bit of mud ... ;) ) Germans can be nationalists but they cant talk about their clear race anymore ... maybe Russian solutions seam to be crazy but they have done sth

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southern
  Dec 19, 07, 17:20  #310

Quoting: Lukasz
but the fact is that Germans started to talk about history like BB


Germans do not talk about history like BB.For the majority of Germans Hitler's period was a very short period which has the same importance as any other period in german history.They find it unfair to remind them of this period without refering to other periods of german history.

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Szczery
  Dec 19, 07, 19:43  #311

If freedom was not a choice National Socialism would have been better then the marxist/stalinist communist bolsheviks that controlled eastern europe for years. The Red army was the true scum.

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celinski
  Dec 19, 07, 19:49  #312

Does anyone know why the Germans never confront Russia like they do Poland?

Carol

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Szczery
  Dec 19, 07, 19:56  #313

Quoting: celinski
Does anyone know why the Germans never confront Russia like they do Poland?


Because of the size and power of the nation. Russia's current policies are very nationalistic and brilliant, the rest of europe should follow.

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Tran Anh
  Dec 20, 07, 01:15  #314

Szczery wrote:
Russia's current policies are very nationalistic and brilliant, the rest of europe should follow.


You sound like a wannable Pole in the 30s trying to imitate der Fuhrer or Il Duce. Though at this moment Russia has not reached the class of Nazi Germany (I think it would not dare), it has definitely adopted a strong resemblance to Mussolini's Italy. I wouldn't mind whether or not Russians are happy with their curse, but I just hope that Poland and the rest of Europe will never again be plagued by the twisted legacy of the Roman Empire (sometime I marvel at the perversion of mankind digging at the past for the crappiest of models!)

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southern
  Dec 20, 07, 05:40  #315

celinski wrote:
Does anyone know why the Germans never confront Russia like they do Poland?


Germans hate Russia but they need desperately its natural resources.

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celinski
  Dec 20, 07, 10:35  #316

Another question, has anyone seen this display Germany has? If yes, what does it say about Russia? Thanks, Carol

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southern
Edited by: southern  Dec 20, 07, 11:40  #317

celinski wrote:
Another question, has anyone seen this display Germany has? If yes, what does it say about Russia?


They do not use names like Russia in such displays.They talk about Soviet Union,red army and communists.

German victims in Poland.Der Tod sprach polnisch.Look at those poor people and the crimes against them by Poles when WW2 started.



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southern
Edited by: southern  Dec 20, 07, 12:19  #318

I guess they show something like this.



And like this.


Not that the English were better.



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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Dec 20, 07, 16:27  #319

Should Germany claim to be the victims...

it would be nice that Germans get complex of inferiority when Slavs start to walk with dignity. Then, germans could be re-Slavicized easily

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southern
Edited by: southern  Dec 20, 07, 16:49  #320

Crow wrote:
it would be nice that Germans get complex of inferiority


The Germans will never get inferiority complex.They did not have even during the roman empire.

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lesser
Edited by: lesser  Dec 20, 07, 17:00  #321

Crow wrote:
it would be nice that Germans get complex of inferiority when Slavs start to walk with dignity. Then, germans could be re-Slavicized easily


Abstracting from what I think about pan-Slavism. Who cares what the Germans feel? Do what you need to do. Healthy attitude. :)

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Szczery
  Dec 20, 07, 19:25  #322

Tran Anh wrote:
You sound like a wannable Pole in the 30s trying to imitate der Fuhrer or Il Duce



Opposed to a Stalinist like yourself? Clearly you have never lived through any form of communism.

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isthatu
  Dec 21, 07, 07:36  #323

Szczery wrote:
Tran Anh wrote:
You sound like a wannable Pole in the 30s trying to imitate der Fuhrer or Il Duce



Opposed to a Stalinist like yourself? Clearly you have never lived through any form of communism

you know what bud, just a guess here but with a name like Tran anh, I kinda figure the possibility that he has is fairly high.........

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ajgraham
  Dec 21, 07, 12:48  #324

southern wrote:
Not that the English were better.


Am i the only Brit left that regards those bombing raids with pride??.....What goes around comes around.

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isthatu
  Dec 21, 07, 13:51  #325

ajgraham wrote:
Am i the only Brit left that regards those bombing raids with pride??.....

Hopefully.
ajgraham wrote:
What goes around comes around

An eye for an eye leaves the world blind.

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ajgraham
  Dec 21, 07, 14:12  #326

isthatu wrote:
An eye for an eye leaves the world blind.


Yeah right Isthatu......So when they bombed us all first....You think we should have all sat back and done F...all??........If we all had your attitude i think the Krauts would have won the war!

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isthatu
  Dec 21, 07, 14:21  #327

ajgraham wrote:
If we all had your attitude i think the Krauts would have won the war!

Im sorry,I didnt realise you had served in the US army in the last war........

ajgraham wrote:
So when they bombed us all first....You think we should have all sat back and done F...all??...

No, "we" should have stuck to bombing military targets,not pure revenge attacks on women and children.Simple truth is, the large bomber raids mounted in late 44 and early 45 did f' all for the strategic situation.

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the_falkster
  Dec 21, 07, 14:47  #328

okay... i held myself out of that discussion for quite a while now to simply see where it would turn...

i like what i see.
isthatu and southern, you two made some good points and seem to be of the rather clever sort of people at pf. especially southerns last few posts i would 100% agree with. they could have been written by myself... ;)

have a nice christmas all next week!! :D

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isthatu
  Dec 21, 07, 14:53  #329

and a "still nacht" to you too mate :)

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ajgraham
  Dec 21, 07, 16:16  #330

isthatu wrote:
No, "we" should have stuck to bombing military targets,not pure revenge attacks on women and children.Simple truth is, the large bomber raids mounted in late 44 and early 45 did f' all for the strategic situation.


Rubbish.....The cities were military targets....What with the road junctions, Rail yards, warehouse etc etc.....Its just that unfortunately the women and kids lived near by!.....I think you've given in to modern day morality!

isthatu wrote:
Im sorry,I didnt realise you had served in the US army in the last war........


Don't know what you mean by that mate?

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