Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland?

but I am of America,, and what we
stand for.. so I guess me and you are kinda the same there brat.. right :)

Germans are VERY interested in that chapter of our history!

information and against forgetting

Bratwurst Boy

well...
doesn't that show that there are not sooo many people interested in that part of history??

do you think air atacks on Germany were genocide ?

The next centre built should be dedicated to the German Nation as a whole. I would call it: The plight of Germans – Jewish Reparations and Restitutions Centre.

I mean – the billions of dollars given to the Jews over the years must have had some kind of effect on the German populace – its due time to recognize such financial suffering and build a memorial dedicated to all the money lost.

where did you get this kind of logic and can I have some

Yeah...well...we managed inspite of all this paying.
I mean we even pay right now millions for other EU countries (also Poland) and still we manage somehow

okay... now it's getting ridiculous.

controversy about the Expellation at all...IT HAPPENED

So...Danzig was a polish town? Full with Poles???

So...Danzig was a polish town? Full with Poles???

Returned to its rightful owners.

only in part of our history it was called Danzig, originaly name is Gdańsk and now it is Gdańsk again ...

So you agree with ethnic cleansing, yes?

We are still there...alive and kicking! :)

If I didn't know better it seems as if Germany is adding salt in a wound just to get attention.

Following the annexation of Austria and the Sudetenland, Germany in October 1938 urged the Danzig territory's cession to Germany. Not surprisingly, Danzig repeatedly refused to negotiate its status and, on September 1, 1939, Nazi Germany invaded Poland, initiating World War II. On September 2, 1939 Germany officially annexed the Free City. The Nazi regime murdered the Polish postmen defending the Polish Post Office: this was one of the first war crimes during the war. Other Polish soldiers defending the Westerplatte stronghold surrendered after seven days of fighting. The German commander returned the sword to the Polish commander for putting up a brave fight. In October 1939, Danzig, together with the rest of Polish Pomerania to the south and west, became the German Reichsgau (administrative district) of Danzig-West Prussia (Danzig–Westpreussen).

Polish and German dissidents were sent to concentration camps, especially neighbouring Stutthof where 85,000 victims perished. Kashubian and Polish intelligentsia were killed in the Piaśnica mass murder site, which is estimated to have had 60,000 victims.

At the beginning of 1945, Germany started evacuating civilians from Danzig. Most Germans fled the city, many by seaborne evacuation to Schleswig-Holstein. This happened in winter under the threat of bombs and in constant danger of submarines.

On March 30, 1945 the Soviet Red Army seized Danzig. In the following days, Soviet soldiers were given completely free hand in the city. Danzig was the scene of brutal violence, rapes, murders, and robbery, and eventually the city was set on fire.

From 1945-1950 most Germans were expelled from the city.

and what your post present Gdańsk was Polish later German later Polish later German and now is again Polish :)))

I dont know Bratwurst if you remember fact that Germans just after 1939 expeled all Poles form Gdańsk (before the war there was mix) so in 1945 ... you had to go home ...

So you agree with ethnic cleansing, yes?

In the end we all win - you get Podolski and Klose - we get Gdansk.

Am I going insane or are my posts randomly disappearing.

This place is nuts - but I love it.

German: 95,03%Polish: 3.28%

because whole XIX century you were expeling Poles

Danzig was german since 1308 till 1945, fo more than 600 years, over a half of a millenia.

As the Germans lived there there lived millions of Poles also there, don't you agree?

Face it Lukasz...in ethnic cleansing you mastered the Germans...we were never as good as you!

Germany in October 1938 urged the Danzig territory's cession to Germany. Not surprisingly, Danzig repeatedly refused to negotiate its status

Even before it opened its doors, the exhibition "Forced Paths" attracted a lot of controversy in the German and Polish media.

That's funny! Life always comes down to football, huh?
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