Should there be a war on terror and how/who should it be fought?

The methods employed by the mujihadeen are terroristic in their nature. They intend to create fear amongst the masses so they are terrorists. Don't let academic distinctions muddy the water. Mujihadeen are one group of terrorists

Would the people ever consider this?

What we Can Do To Help Win the War on Terror

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/116491

"Would it not be better to give them a hand to help pull them out?" DPipes.

"Remove the koran from the face of the earth. " DPipes
From the same reference.
Why the focus on religion?

Everylink has lead me here. Did you even read any of this? Carol

another quote from the same source

"islam clearly provides us (the western world) with a choice: either the western philosophy of life ceases to exist or islam ceases to exist. I opt for the latter"



yes i read all of it

another quote from the same source

"I guess Americans really are as moronic as the red-neck coke-snorting president they elected..."

Usually the link, or reference, is used to back up a point, just posting a link without making a point tends to make the post a bit random.

can't afford it.



Did you read the responses... no it was not the same source and seeing as you opted to not back whatever it is you stand for why do you put me down for trying to understand?


What we Can Do To Help Win the War on Terror

the quote came from the website you linked me to hence the same source



its not what i stand for but what i stand against - largely american bs



start with being a little more understanding

And your imput is understanding? You say American "bs" but not what bs you refer to. If you hate America for certian reasons then say it. bs is to wide an area for understanding where your at.



Judge not, least we be judged.

I didn't get that from the link, sorry.

But, in brief, the USA should appraise its Mid East policy for the last 50 years. That would give you an indication of where these "terrorists" are coming from.
Next, how can the USA change this - hows about opening up trade and giving people something to aim for, something to lose.

you might be wasting your time with this one on this topic, she's just not up to the task. Coupled with her inability to use systematic logic it becomes painful; just when you think you're making headway she'll repackage an already discredit point like it's something new. rinse, wash, repeat.

Oh and you have given so many orginal thoughts. At least I can listen to others views vs mine being the only one. Seems I only hear from you when your talking for someone else.

no ya big dummy, my thoughts have been pretty much inline with everyone who's been arguing against you on this.

bye.
*slams door*

This I aggree with...

OK Celinski, point 1, read up about American support for a group called Jundullah. I've read on prisonplanet.com and other websites that Bush has lended support to their causes. They are killing officers within Iran. Who is in that group Jundullah? The mastermind of 9/11, Khalid Sheikh Muhammad, that's who. Al Qaeda has been a terrorist group conducting terrorist operations since 1988. U r telling me that the American position has been to not take a major stance on terrorism until 2001? It didn't take Al Qaeda seriously enough. U should've taken action against them IN THE INTERESTS OF THE GLOBAL COMMUNITY long b4 9/11. Now u expect everyone to rally round and jump when Bush says so? And that's assuming that Al Qaeda were SOLELY responsible for 9/11. Please read as much as u can about Jundullah, I suggest Wikipedia too. Don't think about definitions of terrorism as who defines them distorts reality. Think about what these people are doing.

she can't and she won't, completely incapable of seeing american policy as being anything except what the politicians tell her it is. either that or a very advanced troll.

I guess we see this now and thank you for the link. All I'm saying is now that USA does something, it seems we are being the bad guys. OK if we were wrong in the past, and I am not saying we are perfect, now that we are doing something we are still being put down.

I guess what I'm asking is are we still supporting? I will be the first to admit my research has never been in this area. Trying to get help in here is like asking to be slaughtered. I will read up on Jundullah as prior to this I never heard it.


thought u left, by the way whats a troll?


Thanks, Carol

Also check out Al Jazeera in English Celinski, it also provides corroboration for American involvement with Jundullah. I like Crow's last posting. Not only did America screw up by forming the Taliban to fight the Soviets but also had a double standard by supporting Muslims in Bosnia, and using Iran's help to boot. America's foreign policy is formed by people who have no clue what they are doing or what they want. U rave about freedom but u make it ur business to get involved in any conflict that America has a vested interest in. Try not to be the international police so often, u may put Interpol members out of a job yet

Because the USA did it all wrong.

The war on terror ? The war on terror has never existed.

All of this has been said on numerous posts here before by various people.

Depends how you look at it.

There should always be concerted campaigns against terror, not a dramatic movie-style approach which leads to a war on terror. Just because one event happened to America, it shouldn't change the way we approach the issue. There are so many listed terrorist groups that have existed for many years and require the appropriate responses. I will be very disappointed if America starts to target Iran. What have they done wrong? Under what premise? The Iranians are current victims of terrorism. What is the US doing about it? Supporting the Sunni led terrorist group apparently

I say get Ollie North back on the scene...............

Who?!

screw it, invade Vietnam,that would confuse the hell out of them.........."You make movie?","nope we're having another go here where the musics better and the drugs r mellower..."
BTW, Johnp,lol and good luck in the future mate:) (really tempted to ask if you sit on your helmet though.....:) )

or cambodia for that matter

What's wrong with the new opium plantations in Afghanistan? As Eric Stoltz said in Pulp Fiction, "Heroine's coming back in a big way". The yield was substantially reduced for some time but now they are cranking up the production process again. One phone call to brotha Karzai and Bob's ur uncle

that would be USMC Colonel Oliver North,the patsy from the Iran/Contra affair,ya know,reagans secret arms sales to Iran to fund the fascist contras in Nicaragua...

now now,that was an accident,they just set the GPS wrong,they were aiming for laos.........;)

lol,any other brits think he has a stoopid name,well,after being brought up on Carry on up the Khyber,wherethe man "baddie" is called Kharzi (toilet,to all non brits) :)

thats the latest broadcast from belgrades very own Joe Goebles

Poles are not even interested in Polish politics, so don't expect that suddenly they will follow Serbian news. Polish goverment will like you write "blindly serve" their international masters (even if they would disagree with them) because this is their pathetic nature. Politicians are the last to expect from them to care about moral aspects or law. Russia is the only hope for Serbs, I don't know Chinese position. Their embassy was bombed during the war, so maybe they seek little revenge on Americans.

Ah, but the Chinese helped the Americans to melt down the steel that could have incriminated America after 9/11 so that's not gonna happen.

i disagree with pretty much everything you have said on this forum - i once stepped over a line in my disagreement and appologised to you for doing so.

the attitude you display in your posts is the very same attitude that is causing much of the anger and hatered displayed towards americans in the world at the moment. this has been going on for years.

rather than vilifying people who see no option but to blow themselves and innocent bystanders up in the name of their cause you should spend a little time trying to understand what could possibly be causing people to do this

slowly, some americans are starting to question why this hatred is there and understand that there are things being done in your country's name that is responsible. they are starting to realise that many people in the world see things in a very different light and they have stopped the blind defense of all things american that has gone on for so long

judging by the content of your posts you have not reached this stage yet and i will not engage in constructive dialogue with you on this forum - as i have said repeatedly carol, you just dont get it...