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Should we change the rules to let Poles join the British Army?


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isthatu
  Mar 19, 08, 09:03  #31

Hi Carol,been busy with "real life" ;) so to speak :)
Personally,I dont think any rules should be changed,what I do feel though is that,someone who wants to make a long term commitment to a new country should have the ability/oppertunity,if they so wish,to serve that new country in anyway they feel comfortable with,be that Armed forces,Police or any such service. Of course,if they dont speak the lingo thats another issue. I know there is a huge proportion of Hispanics in todays US.Army,but I rather imagine they speak english as well as Spannish.

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Zgubiony
  Mar 19, 08, 09:06  #32

isthatu wrote:
Hispanics in todays US.Army,but I rather imagine they speak english as well as Spannish.

This is very true. When I served, there were a lot of Latino and Philippino enlisted and they all spoke english. Some had a heavy accent, but as long as they understood the language it was ok. It was difficult at times to understand each other, but we got used to it.


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Lady in red [Guest]
  Mar 19, 08, 09:07  #33

Awww am so glad to see that you two are friends now :) Nice innit. Hello to you both :)

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celinski
  Mar 19, 08, 09:26  #34

Hi Lady in Red. I always look forward to hearing what isthatu has to contribute, even though he can be "grumpy" sometimes. He makes some excellant points. LOL Carol

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isthatu
  Mar 19, 08, 09:28  #35

Hey,Im friends with everybody,just suffer from net tyson syndrome now n again lol
Z',re the phillipinos......did they all get confused with gender pronouns like they do over here?Typical exchange; " Your Grandfather is doing very well,she is very happy and she is a lovely man....." (sweet people,funny way with words lol)

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Zgubiony
  Mar 19, 08, 09:33  #36

It was a little bit of that and when they yell ( many were high ranking) it's almost funny. They are very nice people and never had an issue....except for maybe the food they tried to make me eat in the Phillipines.


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isthatu
  Mar 19, 08, 09:36  #37

and lets not even mention the reenacted crucifixtions !!! :)

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Zgubiony
  Mar 19, 08, 09:40  #38

Yooooo! Right? They are the definition of extreme. I've never seen anything like this and lucky enough not in person. They are hard core when it comes to the crucifying. I saw a documentary on this not too long ago.


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isthatu
  Mar 19, 08, 09:49  #39

Yep,I thought it was all a bit of ,well,,lets laugh at the natives hype,untill I worked with some guys who actually take part in it ! Hardcore....

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peterweg
  Mar 19, 08, 10:50  #40

Jozef Pilsudski wrote:
ut even from over here in the United States, I see little sense in the proposal. Poland and the United Kingdom are traditional allies, yes, but so are the U.S. and Canada, and I don't think such a plan should be applied there either. Every nation has their own army. These young men should be satisfied by serving in the Polish Army.


The US gives citizenship for foreigners willing to join the US army. That's not people living in the US, its anybody, worldwide can become a US mercenary just by applying.

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Harry
Edited by: Harry  Mar 19, 08, 13:01  #41

Seanus wrote:
We have opened our doors by admitting foreign nationals into our domestic police force, but the army is a different kettle of fish entirely.

You mean that it is different because the army has long been open to non-British citizens? I know a man who is a British army officer and had his application for British citizenship rejected because he had spent too many days outside of the UK in the qualifying period. Why had he been outside the UK? Because he was serving in Kosovo and Iraq.

Altho' any Pole who joined the British army might well find he had legal problems when/if he returned to Poland.

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Seanus
  Mar 19, 08, 16:34  #42

It depends on what level u c it. Poles, as taxpayers in the UK, and now part of the fabric of Britain's society, have a right to defend the country and their newly-found homes against attacks from abroad and to serve as representatives for Britain against terrorists who threaten to undermine global stability and whose ideology we deplore.

On a different level, it would give Poles a chance to use the experience picked up from their WKU here in Poland and give them additional employment opportunities. The army is a diverse institution these days, they could do many things.

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isthatu
  Mar 19, 08, 17:00  #43

Jozef Pilsudski wrote:
yes, but so are the U.S. and Canada, and I don't think such a plan should be applied there either.

Im guessing your a bit weak on your military history then JP? Coz you sure aint heard of the FSSF then have you? Lets make it a bit easier. The Devils Brigade ( Clff Robertson,Wiliam Holden 196something...) or the 1st Special Sevice brigade/force,were a joint US / Canadian force set up in 1942 for a proposed invasion of Norway. This never happened but the force did go on to play crucial roles in the Aelutions then more famously in the Italian campaigns and southern france. The FSSF was considered by most as one of the finest fighting forces of ww2 and led the way to the later green berets and LRRP style units.

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