Beggers namely Kurwa boys in Poland

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Oct 11, 09, 19:50 #1

Every fcuking Sunday i swear theyre just waiting for me outside Biedronka, it happened again today i parked my car near the road as i prefer to park where no other cars are to avoid them smacking their doors into my paintwork when they open them.

Anyway when i cam back the Kurwa boys were right there, all chatting nicely shaking my hand etc some thought i was German and they were speaking crap German to me. I say look heres 1 PLN and you can take the trolley back and have the 2 PLN for that. They clocked the cigarettes i had in the car and start asking for a pappirosi, im OK yes here you go. Talk about give a hand and they want the entire fcuking arm then thay start asking for beer which i was unloading from the trolley into my car boot. I draw the line right there.

Last week i gave some dude 5 PLN i think theyre waiting for me now every week.

I dont mind helping people out but this is taking the ****.

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07 ♂	Oct 11, 09, 19:53 #2
Give them an inch and they'll take a foot. When they've got your foot it's not so easy to give them the boot.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Edited by: SeanBM Oct 11, 09, 19:53 #3
Stop giving them stuff.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Oct 11, 09, 19:55 #4
Wroclaw Boy: Anyway when i cam back the Kurwa boys were right there Are they the Polish chav equivalent?

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Oct 11, 09, 19:55 #5

I had the same. There was a guy out front who harasses everyone. He wants money for beer and he tries to tell them it's for some bread and water. Yeah, pull the Jesus card on me why don't ya ;) I bet he wishes he could turn water into wine (jabol). One time I just went into the shop and bought him a bottle of water as that's what he asked for. He didn't know what to say.

Give them an inch and they'll take a mile. In Scotland, we say 'set a sprat to catch a mackerel'. Feckers here don't even set the sprat, they go straight for the mackerel, then the caviar.

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Oct 11, 09, 19:58 #6

SeanBM:

Stop giving them anything.

Last week i got kind of angry and wished afterwards that i had filmed the whole thing for PF, but i didnt i had plain forgotten about that till today but as i was coming back to my car they were waiting two of them and different. I have to say the beggers tend to come out on Sunday here, i always give them somthing as i feel sorry for them.

In England Herion addicts are the beggers here its skint individuals and Romanians.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Oct 11, 09, 20:02 #7
There's a guy here who stands with a sign in front of him, dressed in a suit. Strange, he doesn't look like a beggar at all. A bit like the drug dealer I'm watching at the moment in Danny Dyer's program. He is posh and innocuous.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,959 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Oct 11, 09, 20:22 #8
I always give polish beggars money because they will buy vodka and not narcotics.

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Edited by: Wroclaw Boy Oct 11, 09, 20:25 #9

southern:

I always give polish beggars money

Atleast theyre honest. Honest beggers!! i know of many beggers that come to you and say i just want money for beer, im not homeless, not hungry, dont need cash for my children etc just a few Zloty for beer. For a long time in Poland this was considered cool and many people gave money thinking well atleast hes honest, im thinking what!!!! Thats even worse, just fcuk off back to the traditional begging methods. Id prefer that personally but thats the Polish attitude because every fcukers conning everyone all the time an honest begger deserves respect.

!!Respect a begger but not a well dressed business associate!! Parter even!!

We should employ these honest beggers on the credibility that they used to beg honestly.

Where are you from Southern?

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Oct 11, 09, 20:28 #10

SeanBM:

Stop giving them stuff

I agree, in California panhandlers can be fined over $400.00

In Riverside County a man who had been begging on a daily basis, pretended to be homeless. It turned out he was later seen driving a luxury car & had deposits for that year close to $70,000 in his bank account. Doesn't sound too homeless to me; quite a con artist actually.

A sincere thanks PF, for putting up with me FIVE terrific years, muah!

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Edited by: southern Oct 11, 09, 20:32 #11

Greece.Here the beggars say,''my friend give e some money to buy ticket for the train,I have 4 euro and the ticket costs 5 euro.Or they tell you give me money to buy some food while they actually collect money to buy drugs.
In the train one day I heard someone saying please I want money just to get some sleep,I am not a narcoman.In the argo of narcomans ''sleeps'' are drugs like hypnosedon but people in the train heard sb begging to get some sleep.
When nobody gave him money he screamed:''Are you human?Look at these humans.Pigs.Pigs.At the end they will call me a junkie.''

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,478 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER ♂	Edited by: Wroclaw Boy Oct 11, 09, 20:36 #12
Wroclaw Boy: Where are you from Southern? southern: Greece. Fcuk dude, no wonder your such a coont. Youre a greasy dirty muslim fooking Turk.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,959 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Oct 11, 09, 20:38 #13
No,I give polish and czech beggers money because they are Slavs and I like them.I never give money to gypsies,afros etc.Slavs need to survive.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,727 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Oct 11, 09, 20:39 #14
beckski: in California panhandlers can be fined over $400.00 In California, you have people who molest pans? Jeeez, only in America :) southern: I give polish and czech beggers money because they are Slavs and I like them. Because of the civil war in Greece?

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,959 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Oct 11, 09, 20:40 #15
Slavs are cool.They are always right.I mean they really need this money and especially czech beggars are very tactful.

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Edited by: frd Oct 11, 09, 22:19 #16

southern:

,I have 4 euro and the ticket costs 5 euro

I was in London some time ago, at Victoria Coach station this guy approaches us and he says exactly that, he needs some money for the ticket because he is missing 2 pounds. I was pretty sceptic but my gf gave him the money and we moved along. We came back after something like 2 hours. He was still there, now asking some other couple for the same thing. I rushed in and told them that the guy is a con. He said he is now trying to get the money for his girlfriends ticket.. Afterwards I heard multiple times that it's a pretty often sight at that station - dodgy people conning others with the "ticket scenerio"..
My girlfriend was really frightened after what I've done, she though that this guy can come after us and stab me or something like that.. I guess you probably shouldn't do stupid things when you're on unfamiliar turf.

I've never seen such a situation in Poland. Most beggers you can stumble upon are usually gypsies or old drunkards.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Oct 11, 09, 22:25 #17
Fair point! There is one guy who bullies people so I thought I'd turn the tables on him and test his metal. He wasn't so hard after I remonstrated with him. You are right to say that most Polish beggars are harmless. They usually accept no as an answer and don't pester you too much. They will accept warning signs.

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Oct 11, 09, 22:30 #18
frd: I've never seen such a situation in Poland. check this thread: Begging in Poland (new scam) it's actually an old thread.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Oct 11, 09, 22:37 #19
There are those that can irritate you but they are younger. You can be sitting on the rynek and they come up to you and just stare you down. The ones who stand with their hand out are the most frustrating. You turn away and they move round. The staff don't escort them off the premises but they should.

esekThreads: 5 Posts: 269 Joined: Jun 3, 08 ♂	Oct 11, 09, 22:44 #20
Never give anything... simple rule. It's quite common - they ask for 1-2 zlotys, you show them your wallet and suddenly they ask for more or take your wallet and run away...

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Edited by: poleaxe Oct 11, 09, 22:46 #21

If no-one gave money to beggars they wouldnt be there. Basic economic fact.

Anyone who thinks they are helping beggars by giving them money needs to give themselves a shake. You are condemning them to a life on the street, a downwards spiral propelled by the "nice" people who give money and keep the whole thing going.

Consider for a moment what would happen if no-one gave beggars any money.

1.They would cease to beg on the streets - eradicating a public nuisance.

2. Those who are not homeless would filter back into society.

3. Those who are homeless would either seek help- govt,charity,church or family OR commit crime to fund themselves.

If there are resources put into help and crimefighting this problem neednt exist.

That said it would prevent the do-gooders feeling like they save humanity every day...

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Oct 11, 09, 22:48 #22
Good point esek. By all means, give to noble charities like those for the blind, children and animals but these lowlifes just punt it up the wall on booze. They don't appreciate it, rather they come to disrespect you if you don't give when they expect you to. You don't owe them anything. It's a government problem and not for individuals to solve.

still_wisherThreads: 7 Posts: 186 Joined: Mar 9, 08 ♂	Edited by: still_wisher Oct 11, 09, 22:49 #23
becuase of those beggers i almost can't smoke while im taking a walk ! the moment you light it you don't know from where they're comming and before you finish one cig you can be asked for one like 5 times :)

frdThreads: 8 Posts: 1,956 Joined: Feb 3, 09 ♂	Oct 11, 09, 22:49 #24
Wroclaw: check this thread: Begging in Poland (new scam) I was talking about con guys with the "ticket" trick.. not about begging in general... Seanus: There are those that can irritate you but they are younger. Yeah, I know what you mean, there are those younger bloked, they look like metalheads or punks. Usually collecting money for "cheap wine" they can be pretty intrusive..

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,959 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Oct 11, 09, 22:55 #25
I remember one beggar who actually was made rich by begging.He owned 7 apartments I think till some gangster guy suffocated him after making him sign in his will that the gangster would take all the property.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Oct 11, 09, 22:56 #26
The fast food places in Gliwice are the favourite hawking spots for them. McD's or Złoty Kurczak tend to attract nyaffs who stand there with their pouting faces. What pis*es me off is the ineptitude of the staff. They stand by and do nothing. I've paid to eat in their establishment, they should be ushering them out.

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Oct 12, 09, 16:21 #27

southern:

Greece.Here the beggars say,''my friend give e some money to buy ticket for the train,I have 4 euro and the ticket costs 5 euro.Or they tell you give me money to buy some food while they actually collect money to buy drugs.

Trust me that happens every day here in the trainstations of the US, and when I went to Europe.

Anyway Wroclaw Boy, I guess karma (do good and good will come back to you) has failed you. lol.

But honestly, if you want to be good give your money to a charity. You can find them at churches, schools, hospitals, all for great causes. They help diseased people, homeless people, starving children, those in need of shelter or and education. If these beggars were for real then they'd be funded for by those institutions. Just ignore them, and call the police if they become a hassle.

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Oct 12, 09, 21:28 #28

poleaxe:

Anyone who thinks they are helping beggars by giving them money needs to give themselves a shake. You are condemning them to a life on the street, a downwards spiral propelled by the "nice" people who give money and keep the whole thing going.

Consider for a moment what would happen if no-one gave beggars any money.

1.They would cease to beg on the streets - eradicating a public nuisance.

2. Those who are not homeless would filter back into society.

3. Those who are homeless would either seek help- govt,charity,church or family OR commit crime to fund themselves.

If there are resources put into help and crimefighting this problem neednt exist.

That said it would prevent the do-gooders feeling like they save humanity every day...

Good point.

polishcanuckThreads: 10 Posts: 583 Joined: Feb 11, 07 ♂	Oct 15, 09, 18:56 #29
Don't be too hard on the homeles/beggers: Homeless Russian turns empty booze bottles into stock market stake www.nationalpost.com/news/world/story.html?id=2098380 Took him 2 decades but his first transaction was a $76k share purchase:)

cheehawThreads: 9 Posts: 831 Joined: Oct 10, 09 ♀	Oct 15, 09, 19:49 #30
I've read a few newspaper articles here and there about beggars taking in as much as 300/400 USD per day in the right busy location.

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