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Hey, I speak English and can say F**K! Poles use the F-word to impress native speakers.


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TrevekThreads: 33
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Joined: May 21, 08 ♂ 		 Mar 20, 11, 18:03    #1
Can anyone explain why some obviously educated people in Poland seem to feel it shows their coolness and linguistic ability by talking to a Native Speaker and using the F-word all the time?

Scenario: I was in a pub the other night, about the play with my band, when a middle aged man asked me "What part of England are you from?" When I told him, "Shropshire", I got a "Where the F***'s that?" When I enlightened him (West Midlands of England, along the Welsh border) I was told, "Yeah, that's why you have a Welsh accent, not a Scottish one!" I don't have a Scottish accent, it's true... but I certainly don't have a Welsh one either.

I asked my wife if she knew the guy and she said he was probably showing how much he (thought) he knew, because he was an English teacher at one time. I just hope the F-word wasn't part of his syllabus.

Last night I was in the same pub and my wife was playing Polish music. At one point we started singing some Irish songs and a bystander asked me to sing "Greensleeves" (he was stunned that I didn't know it... even more stunned to learn I didn't drink tea at 5pm). As he seemed an agreeable sort, I sat down and was asked, "So, who the fu*k are YOU?" which he apparently thought was a perfectly agreeable thing to ask someone he'd only just met. This was followed by, "What the f**k are you doing here?", "Why are you playing f**king folk music?" and a few other enquiries. The crazy thing was I don't think he was (intentionally) being abusive. I think it was only when i said, "Because I f***ing live here, my f***ing friends f***ing live here because they are f***ing Polish and all f***ing play f***ing folk music!" that he realised I might not be into his style of speech.

OK, I should have just pointed it out but I was fed up of it all by that time of night.
IronsideThreads: 59
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Maybe because of ******* TV ?:D
JonnyMThreads: 16
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The same ones who grumble if you say kurwa.
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Joined: May 21, 10 ♂ 		 Mar 20, 11, 18:34    #4
Trevek:
Can anyone explain why some obviously educated people in Poland seem to feel it shows their coolness and linguistic ability by talking to a Native Speaker and using the F-word all the time?


Maybe he had Tourette's syndrome? Or maybe he overheard too many conversations between Polish people and learned about their excessive use of the K-word, and maybe that's his way of showing his eagerness to integrate? Or maybe he was a little drunk? (Hey, it wouldn't surprise me since it happened in the pub?)

;)
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Trevek:
people in Poland seem to feel it shows their coolness and linguistic ability by talking to a Native Speaker and using the F-word all the time?


To my surprise, while riding a bus in Warszawa, I heard the bus driver use the words several times.

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That's hilarious. I have to say that I sometimes overuse swear words in English (although not to the point described by OP :)) because,
for some reason, to me they just seem to be less vulgar and offensive than Polish ones. I know they're not, but I tend to forget that.

JonnyM:
The same ones who grumble if you say kurwa.


Actually, when said by a foreigner, especially when he speaks English and uses 'kurwa' only occasionally, it sounds quite funny :)
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ever since McCoy posted that forfiter vid Ohh Kurwa is one of my favourite sayings, bloody funny.
TrevekThreads: 33
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I forgot to mention that this was actually in Olsztyn.

I must learn to swear properly in Polish so I can demonstrate.
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Maybe because of its versatilely?
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Never underestimate the power of Hollywood TV productions.
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strzyga:
Never underestimate the power of Hollywood TV productions.


Oh, come on! I've heard plenty of C-words (Cholera.) and K-words (Kurwa.) in Polish productions, so it's not exactly like Hollywood is to blame for any of that. And really, when you've seen some Dutch productions, then even the foulest language in some of the most infamous Hollywood productions seems pretty decent in comparisson? (To me at least!) I'm not saying I'm proud of that, but I'm not ashamed about any of that either. Hey, it just is what it is and I'm guessing every country has its own unique culture?

:)
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Trevek:
I was in a pub the other night,


Trevek:
Last night I was in the same pub


Are you by any faucking chance faucking addicted to going to faucking pubs?
MeowmeowThreads: 7
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Because f*** is the first word babies are taught in poland... i.e " Where the f*** is my bottle"..."change my f***ing nappie b***", " I hate you, you f****ing b*** I'll make sure you won't sleep tonight"

I hope that answers your question. Another word polish babies taught from young age is "monkey" or "Ni****"
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Trevek:
Can anyone explain why some obviously educated people in Poland seem to feel it shows their coolness and linguistic ability by talking to a Native Speaker and using the F-word all the time?

Because the English people are always using it.
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Meowmeow:
Another word polish babies taught from young age is "monkey" or "Ni****"


you're pathetic
ukpolskaThreads: 51
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Meowmeow:
Because f*** is the first word babies are taught in poland... i.e " Where the f*** is my bottle"..."change my f***ing nappie b***", " I hate you, you f****ing b*** I'll make sure you won't sleep tonight"

I hope that answers your question. Another word polish babies taught from young age is "monkey" or "Ni****"

What are you like two years old?
MeowmeowThreads: 7
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I was cussing like a drunken sailor!!!
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PlasticPole:
Because the English people are always using it.


No. it's because it is used freely on Polish tv, especially tvn. and a lot of pop tunes contain fuck/fucking etc.

it's now another adjective/whatever in Polish language and i doubt it will go away any time soon.
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Wroclaw:
it's now another adjective/whatever

It's not an adjective. Why don't you leave the thinking to the thinking people so you can focus on doing what you do best:
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Llamatic:
It's not an adjective.

well it can be if you add ING, or it could be any part of speech you like except perhaps a preposition. Maybe that is its beauty.
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most of us have probably seen this before, or similar.

http://www.ethereal.net/~tristan/humor/fuck.html
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pawian:
Are you by any faucking chance faucking addicted to going to faucking pubs?


Not since i met those guys!

PlasticPole:
Because the English people are always using it.


Not necessarily to complete strangers.

Wroclaw:
No. it's because it is used freely on Polish tv, especially tvn. and a lot of pop tunes contain *********** etc.


true, I've choked on my cornflakes before now hearing it on morning TV (usually as they show the rape and murder scenes). I also recall a sweet little, innocent eye'd primary student of mine ask, in all curious innocence, "Trev, what does 'love dem 'Ho's mean?'"
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 May 30, 11, 23:09    #23
I think there is a certain kind of person who finds such an approach cool. They haven't truly grown up and are cruisin for a bruisin should they continue. I find such sorts highly irritating and avoid them. I only tend to swear when frustrated and often to myself.


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