Hiring a Polish Worker - Pros and Cons

mikePol

Jun 6, 07, 08:49 #91

Quoting: James4u

WHY ?? do you come to our country, is it for the free handouts you send back to your families in Poland?? is it for our health system?? Our goverments to soft and is spending the English peoples taxes that they have paid into all their lives..Through the likes of yourselves and others coming here to work at a cheaper pay not because you are more qualified than ourselves but because you are prepared to take less money and bleed our benefit system. You may wonder why you get a bad response from English people its because we have had enough of too many immigrants coming to our small island..but believe me things will change. People now are looking to the far right to votem, they have had enough.

lol health system? what health system? the one in poland is beter well at least in the qualification department so no thats not why i came here the free handouts what handouts? we have to work 1 year for the same employer to be able to clame any benefits again that is not why i personaly moved here coz i like the place and whanted a change i work for the same cash if not higher then my british counterparts since i dont value myself that low about immigration well dont look at poles i admit a lot has come but just for comparison sake look at how many poles you see on the streets and how many arabs,black or any ather "minority" (this is no racial remark).
as for the education system being beter (somone said that ) lol you got to be kiding most of the ppl ive meet (and thay got masters and phd's) cant count without a calculator and yes ive finished a uni here as well (so i got 2 degrees one polish one english) and belive me when i say that passing all the tests and projects here was like taking a break.

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Aug 23, 07, 07:46 #92

Okay I have bring this back up to the top because I can think of a con with regards to hiring a Polish worker, a while back I got a friend an interview at a large corporate company (my friend is a manager there), okay the job was just a clerical job but the money was okay and it meant she could improve her English, plus it looked better on her c.v. than her job at the time which was waiting tables. When the company took her on, she said she would be going back to Poland in September (for studies) so they gave her a fix-term contact, then she told them that she would be staying for another year so they made her permanent staff (no real difference, she got paid leave and all the other usual stuff before)....Okay I will get to my point, she gave her notice in last week telling the company she was going to London with her b/f, her Manager doesnt believe it because they actually offered a transfer to a branch in the south because she is a really good worker and the company believe in staff retention.....they now believe that she had no intention of staying with the company for another year and had every intention of going back to pl for studies this year and the upshot of it is they dont see the point in employing young Eastern Europeans who will be trained (which costs money) only to then leave after a few months...like I mentioned about staff retention / training, I dont think any company wants high staff turn-over and high training costs

Lady in red

Aug 23, 07, 10:28 #93

Quoting: Amathyst

like I mentioned about staff retention / training, I dont think any company wants high staff turn-over and high training costs

With respect Amathyst, that happens with British workers too and any other nationality......I can't believe you posted that as a 'con' for employing Polish workers.....

Get real.......this is what happens in some industries all the time and especially in lower paid jobs in admin, retail and catering.......

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Edited by: Moderator Aug 23, 07, 12:29 #94

<div class="quoting">Quoting: Lady in red

With respect Amathyst, that happens with British workers too and any other nationality......I can't believe you posted that as a 'con' for employing Polish workers.....

Get real.......this is what happens in some industries all the time and especially in lower paid jobs in admin, retail and catering....... </div>

No need for that kind of tone but I will clarify something you overlooked.

I didnt single out Polish I said Eastern European.

Why should a company invest in a person only for them to leave, yes I understand that this happens with British people, but the point I made was that she lied, she said "oh yes Im staying here for another year" but now she's off back to Poland because she has saved enough money for her studies etc.....

Its made me look like an idiot and I feel pretty bad for asking for a favour from a friend...a little bit of honesty goes a long way!!!

Lady in red

Aug 23, 07, 12:44 #95

Quoting: Amathyst

No need for that kind of tone but I will clarify something you overlooked.

i wasn't using any tone amathyst....you should know that :) I was just trying to say, be realistic.(maybe I could have phrased it a bit better, so am sorry if it read badly to you) it doesn't matter on the persons nationality, this happens and has happened in such industries for a long time. Thing is people do things like that all the time. They don't appear to have the same loyalty that we have to our employer. My point is and was, it has nothing to do with any nationality, in the case you mentioned.

Quoting: Amathyst

I can think of a con with regards to hiring a Polish worker

You wrote this in the thread entitled "Hiring a Polish worker the pros and cons'.....that's why I felt it a bit unfair to point the finger at one nationality in this particular case.

I fully sympathise with you and how you must have felt, when you recommended her for the job. I'd be pretty narked as well in a similar situation. And not only did she let her employer down she let you down also :(

But again, my point is that this sort of behavious has nothing to do with their nationality. It's a human thing regardless of sex, creed or colour.

Most companies forecast their training and recruitment costs based on their known and expected turnover of staff in their particular field. And budget accordingly. As I said before it varies not only on the nature of the job but also the industry they work in.

:( Apologies for any perceived tone.....

patrick	Aug 27, 07, 16:46 #96
overall, Polish people are good workers. Maybe their english is not so perfect at the beginning but later on its very good. And one more thing- England was always multicultural and thats the beauty :-) . So I am glad Europe is united now!!! (or almost united:-) ) Anyway good luck people!!!!

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Sep 15, 07, 17:32 #97

The only effect of all these visitors is that our income decrease and in some cases ceases altogether. Why would any boss agree to a pay increase demand if the pole will do it cheaper and not dare to stick up for themselves. Sure there may be a bit of extra damage and maybe a few people hurt, but hey... what the hell, money talks. We've been betrayed by our leaders. We cant blame the poles, if someone offered us lots of moneys to do a job we're really not up to, then most of us would take the cash and think what a pr**k he/she is for employing me! They are mostly spongers and we will lose big-time on this mistake. If anyone thinks they will appreciate the chance they have been given or be loyal for it, you're living in cloud cuckoo land because they are not typical traits of most poles. There are some very respectable people among them who will have their reputations ruined by their countrymen. Poland is just the same way, 5% tryers and 95% hangers on which is why its not going to change until they pull their fingers out and ditch the peasant mentality. I love Poland, its fantastic and birthplace of my wife and sons.

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Oct 5, 07, 13:23 #98

As much as i adore poland, i honestly think the uk needs to change the laws on immigration to this country, not just for the polish peeps, but more importantly for the rag heads and the vast influx of roma people heading for these shores. At the end of the day i have never met a pole i didnt like or trust, on the other hand, if we in scotland have well educated muslim doctors trying 2 blow up airports and we have roma men selling kids for sex on the streets of glasgow, then we need to get rid of them, or at the very least stop more of them getting in.

Do i blame the polish, lithuanians, latvians etc for heading to the uk to take advantage of the situation? Do i hell, because if i thought moving to any of these or any other country would improve my life then i would be gone in a heart beat. If i remember correctly in the early 90s i headed down to london to work on various buiding sites as an electrician, because if i put in the hours and worked hard i could make £600/£700 a week . Am i any different from the poles? I worked hard, away from home for weeks at a time, i was lonely, sad, i had next to no friends.

I was a foreigner in a foreign land! For england is foreign to me!

Continued good luck to all my european friends

AmirahJanowitz	Oct 5, 07, 23:31 #99
If I was an employer I would hire Polish people they work hard and are smart people and would probably appriciate what they get.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Oct 5, 07, 23:40 #100
pro: the hardest workers you'll ever get con: they'll con you whenever you give them a chance. lol

NigelThreads: 1 Posts: 88 Joined: Sep 15, 07 ♂	Oct 8, 07, 08:50 #101
Quoting: plk123 pro: the hardest workers you'll ever get con: they'll con you whenever you give them a chance. lol Hardest workers until you take your eye off them,then the foot comes off the gas. Rip you off if they get half a chance?of course .... bo trzeba

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,412 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Oct 8, 07, 11:12 #102
Quoting: Nigel bo trzeba bo trzeba? lol old ways die hard, eh?

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Oct 9, 07, 05:14 #103

It took years to learn and will take many more to unlearn.As hardest workers, not many can outwork me and I,m certainly not a Pole.A lot of poles need to be constantly motivated to work,and yes they then work well.I prefer people who motivate themselves and get on with it for the sake of it.The blokes I worked with on International were Scots,Paddies,English and Welsh,all of them great guys who could match anyone from anywhere-especially the scots,I was VERY impressed with them because we had the same approach.I knew a lot of excellent poles too but they were exemplary examples of their nations drivers. Zenon -Czarna Stoppa-Bartosz(zamosc),Marek-pet shop boys-Krauschar( Siedlec)(R.I.P),Zbyszek Wroblewski(Warsaw).+++
I can name all the best ones because high quality was so rare and still is.

jareck

Oct 9, 07, 05:25 #104

Quoting: Nigel

I prefer people who motivate themselves and get on with it for the sake of it.

if only peopel could apply this to their life in completeness, as humand we are made to work, i have come to know that a large number of people who can be indentified as roma gypsy for ethnicity purposes only are claiming benefits in the UK, they seem to have polish nationalities and are affecting the figures of poles who are on beenfits

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Oct 9, 07, 06:47 #105

Not just roma s i'm afraid.I've got several friends who are very much Polish and claim everything they can.Even extra benefit for being a single mum when they actuially have partners.My wifes boss is dismayed that he gets girls on agency work,they are superb,he gives them a permanent contract with a 3 month probationary period-they are still superb,probation period ends-guess what I'm pregnant-Ineed time off-Ineed maternity leave-I know my rights,blah blah blah,then this superb worker is a lazy useless waste of time and money that only knows how to complain and assert her rights.Lets admit how it is shall we??

freddy23

Mar 7, 08, 20:09 #106

I let a Polish girl named Iwona Mysliwiec of Lublin live with me for a year. She managed to get arrested by the FBI, and the local authorities. She borrowed $5,748.00 for a lawyer and cry, cry, cried for me to lend it to her. She left the country and forgot to pay me back, but she sure as **** didn't forget to ship her Lexus and a Toyota mini van. Czech people call Polish people the 'N' word of Europe......they were right!!!!

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07 ♂	Mar 7, 08, 20:36 #107
freddy23 wrote: Czech people call Polish people the 'N' word of Europe......they were right!!!! Shut your dirty mouth, you twat. Let me guess, you tried pulling the moves on this young girl, and she didn't let you touch her? Creep.

jones101Threads: 1 Posts: 554 Joined: Jan 14, 08 ♂	Mar 7, 08, 20:41 #108
Filios1 wrote: Creep. You use this word a lot...you know it really isn't all that insulting of a word in English...kind of funny actually. Might look for something new.

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07 ♂	Mar 8, 08, 11:42 #109
jones101 wrote: You use this word a lot...you know it really isn't all that insulting of a word in English...kind of funny actually. Might look for something new. Don't talk to me, please and thanks.

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Feb 15, 09, 00:31 #110

Pros - Hard working
Is willing to take jobs that local don't
They take the time to learn their job (the is important here)
Is practical and knows reality - Polak potrafi

Cons - 1 man working, 4 people watching, LOL. Just kidding
Vodka headspins lessen concentration
Begrudging at times
Not the most communicative

It just depends. It takes forever to think about this, depending on who you have in mind. I could refute every one of the above so take it as a general guide at best.

voice of reasonThreads: - Posts: 41 Joined: Mar 18, 10 ♂	Mar 18, 10, 10:07 #111
Pros: Source of cheap labour. Cons: liable to moan about being underpaid.

Pawel_UK

Jun 28, 11, 19:54 #112

Admin:

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Poland, being situated in the Eastern Europe, but next to Germany,

..... please excuse my anal approach.... Germany is situated in western part of Europe, Poland EXACTLY in MIDDLE of Europe, and Belarus/Ukraine in eastern part of Europe

to clarify Poland is placed in the middle of EUROPE.... i no i no, b4 u comment: american says "polish dead camps" not in Poland. quite a difference. Isn't it???

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