Hollywood's War with Poland.

Hollywood's War with Poland.....The reason of common views about Poles and Poland in western public opinion.

What would you like my ramification on the subject?

On the other hand there is a book and thoughtful and documented account of crooked view of Poland in Hollywood.

To Be or Not to Be (1942), In Our Time (1944), and None Shall Escape (1944).

So are you recommending a book or do you wish to discuss the subject matter?

Perhaps you could give us some examples?

I don't know, is that the point of the thread?

Hollywood attitude towards Poland,

It is hugely amusing that you think Hollywood is aware of Poland's existence, let alone that Hollywood cares enough about Poland to make any effort at all with respect to Poland!

Does this book only deal with Hollywood's view of wartime Poland?

Taking into account people working, owning all that we think about when we say Hollywood I would say that some do and some don't !

The reason of common views about Poles and Poland in western public opinion.
Those views I may add were and are short of prejudice.

Interesting book to read on the subject.

Indeed Hollywood has had a war against Poland and people of Polish ancestry.

Mel Gibson's'Patriot' will be the bracingly anti-British story of an American general in the War of Independence, Francis Marion, who fights a brilliant guerilla war against the evil British invaders. When the movie's historians discovered that in real life Marion raped his slaves and hunted Red Indians for sport they changed his name to Benjamin Martin. Yet one thing stayed the same; the movies' 'baddies' are, as usual, the treacherous, cowardly, evil, sadistic Brits.

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Yet there is a point where the incessant bad-mouthing has to stop, and for many people that point was reached in the mid-Nineties when historical accuracy was stretched so far that movies actually attempted to explain away anti-British terrorism and helped the propaganda efforts of organisations such as the IRA. The glamorisation of violence is bad enough but in several recent films the assassination of serving British officials was actively justified by horrific distortion of the historical truth.

The 1996 biopic 'Michael Collins', for example, posing as a true story, simply invented scenes in which British troops machine gunned perfectly innocent Irish sports spectators, portrayed a car bomb decades before such a weapon was invented and showed the torture and murder by the British in 1922 of an informer who in fact died peacefully in his bed in 1972. When the Irish director, Neil Jordan, himself a history graduate, was told that Irish historians had pinpointed these falsifications and many more, he simply answered; 'Well, f..k them'.

Another such movie, 'Some Mother's Son', about Bobby Sands and the IRA hunger-strikers and starring Helen Mirren, was written and directed by Terry George. American audiences were not told that Mr George, far from being an objective witness to the events of 1981, had in fact served three years in prison in Northern Ireland for possession of a gun with intent to endanger life. When it was screened at the prestigious Hamptons Film Festival in 1996 these were some of the remarks made afterwards by ordinary Americans leaving the cinema: 'Those bloody British. I do hate them a lot.' 'God, I hate Thatcher.' 'The way they speak, the way they act - I hate the British'.

simply invented scenes in which British troops machine gunned perfectly innocent Irish sports spectators,

British forces opened fire on the crowd at a Gaelic football match in Croke Park, killing fourteen Irish civilians.

That is true and I haven't checked the rest of the articles claims.

Harry:
simply invented scenes in which British troops machine gunned perfectly innocent Irish sports spectators,

That is true and I haven't checked the rest.
British forces opened fire on the crowd at a Gaelic football match in Croke Park, killing fourteen Irish civilians.

In the scene depicting the events of Bloody Sunday, an armoured car drives onto the pitch at Croke Park and mows down GAA player Michael Hogan with its machine gun before firing into the crowd. In real life the armoured car remained outside the gates of Croke Park as it would not fit through the archway and it only fired warning shots in the air over the crowd fleeing from the initial shooting by a mixed group of Royal Irish Constabulary, Dublin Metropolitan Police, and Auxiliary Division officers, who were responsible for the twelve fatalities and numerous casualties in the grounds. On the DVD commentary, Neil Jordan said he could not figure out a way of showing the reality of the event without making the British Army look like "bad guys".

The 1996 biopic 'Michael Collins', for example, posing as a true story, simply invented scenes in which British troops machine gunned perfectly innocent Irish sports spectators, portrayed a car bomb decades before such a weapon was invented and showed the torture and murder by the British in 1922 of an informer who in fact died peacefully in his bed in 1972. When the Irish director, Neil Jordan, himself a history graduate, was told that Irish historians had pinpointed these falsifications and many more, he simply answered; 'Well, f..k them'.

Do stop your utterly pathetic whining. Here's a very partial list of Hollywood films where the villans are British but do you hear Brits whining about Hollywood fighting a war against them?

Leeson was fantastic as Collins though - believable, likeable and generally fantastic. Rickman didn't do a bad job (does he ever?) as de Valera as well.

You mentioned "Star Wars" as an example of an anti-British movie. For Gods sake this movie takes place in outer space and NO human nation is referenced. Specifically highlight the anti-British portrayal or dialog in that movie.

Most of your examples are of English actors that play the roles of bad guys.

However I will conceed to you that that one movie where the British during the American revolution were killing innocent Americans was Anti-British. In that movie it clearly identified British characters doing horrible things for no reason.

An Irish actor as the Irish hero and a British actor as the Irish villan: how surprising.

I think it is a horribly romanticised version of events.
It is fiction, I don't know anyone who takes it as fact.

And America do like their villains to be British, we can't say they don't but I think they do it in a complementary way.
The villain must be cunning and intelligent otherwise who'd care?

-"Bruce Almighty" (2003) Polish Americans are portrayed as being backward showing one Polish American picking his nose

There are countless shows of the positive things of Britain. When one thinks of Britain they think of "Royalty" "Kings", elegance, "Sun doesn't set on the British Empire" a positive etc.

What mean peace of anti-polish prejudice and propaganda!

There are countless shows of the positive things of Britain. When one thinks of Britain they think of "Royalty" "Kings", elegance, "Sun doesn't set on the British Empire" a positive etc.

What mean peace of anti-polish prejudice and propaganda! Everybody knows Poles would never do something like this! HANG THEM!!!

Yes and how dare we mention anything about the historical negative things Germans have done like with those Nazis. How dare we mention that Germans would ever be foolish enough to follow mass murderer leaders and commit unspeakable crimes against humanity in the millions. I mean everyone KNOWS that Germans would never try to kill tens of millions of people and set in motion a chain of events that lead to the Soviet Union destroying Eastern Europe after the Nazis were doing it.

Well....Hollywood does "dare"....do you see us whine???

Grow up you *****!

Remember "Inglorious Basterds"? Germany paid Tarantino to make the movie in Babelsberg. Lots of Germans in this movie and a great reception here.
I would like to see you throwing a tantrum at something similiar pointed at you. But you have already a problem with a Pole shown PICKING HIS NOSE for FUCKS SAKE!