Which modern developments harm Poland?

Internet addiction

atomised families

workaholism,

Jerry Springer type crap

reality shows,

extreme sports,

MTV

porn,

And the topic was the trashiness of much of TV. There is no question that there's plenty of choice. The question is: why do so many choose thta which is cheap, tacky, trashy and gutter-level?

Which modern developments, practices or phenomena in Poland or your home country do you regard as negative? Why? What is the alternative? For instance workaholism, Internet addiction, atomised families, environamental destruction, megabureacratic governments, etc.

Do you really thing a nine or 10-year-old finding out about 'love' on an Internet porn site is the best soltuion.

And the topic was the trashiness of much of TV. There is no question that there's plenty of choice. The question is: why do so many choose thta which is cheap, tacky, trashy and gutter-level?

Pope John Paul II warned

consumerism

I agree, consumerism, in its extreme is perverting people's idea of beauty, self esteem, freedom and reason.
Nothing specifically about Poland though.

Nothing specifically about Poland though.

Which modern developments harm Poland?

Check out the Amish/Plain People stuff on another thread.

rich kids

over half of them hadn't been abroad, even for a holiday, in the past 10 years

tended to drive mid-range cars.

Who is the blame: parents, the school, the church, the media, peer pressure?

Check out the Amish/Plain People stuff on another thread. They get by without all that crap and are probably happier and much richer in themselves for it.

Nevertheless, a bank in Poland (a well known one) did a very private survey of their richest 10% of clients a few years ago and were surprised that over half of them hadn't been abroad, even for a holiday, in the past 10 years and tended to drive mid-range cars.

Which one?

? That's odd, I wonder why, any ideas? working too much?

Parents.Who else?

I agree but I wouldn't give up my PC :)

There is beautiful word in Polish:nowobogaccy (nem money)-that's the kind of ppl that always talks abot what they have.

Bizarrely, the one about Formula1.

Perhaps not a very scientific analysis, but an interesting thought.

There is beautiful word in Polish:nowobogaccy (nem money)-that's the kind of ppl that always talks abot what they have.

all the talk but still living in a small flat with a mediocre car.

Ive met lots of them in Poland, all the talk but still living in a small flat with a mediocre car. It is what it is, thats one of the reason ive come to despise capitalism.

people with class don't brag

Because rich people with class don't brag about it.

Because rich people with class don't brag about it.

Atomisaiton of the family has developed along with the polarisation of society

So were neighbrs and family friends. If a parent was called into school because Johnny had done something stupid, little Johnny would 'sorely' regret it. He was not only grounded, depriced of TV and pocket money that week but may well have been in for a good thrashing.

He was not only grounded, depriced of TV and pocket money that week but may well have been in for a good thrashing.

Now the parent starts badmouthing the teahcer, apparently siding with the kid.

If you disagree with that assessment, what is yours? Why has the child-rearing consensus collapsed?

The media?

What you don't understand is that during "communism " times it was (and still is) much better for you not to show off.I know a guy easily worth 10 milions PLN and he is driving 95 VW Passat and when you ask him how is he doing he will tell you that he is not doing good at all.

We say "Nouveau riche"

Are we talking about Poland or where you are?

it seems that Poland is much worse than the UK/Ireland when it comes to directly attempting to manipulate teachers.

In Poland, gated estates.