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Edited by: warszawski  May 16, 11, 14:12    #1
With the increase of immigrants moving to Poland here is a check list, If anyone can think of anything that is not listed,please add it to the list !!!

BE SURE - Moving can be extremely stressful, be as certain as you can be that it's the right move for you before you go. If possible visit Poland before you make up your mind, don't rely on other people's impressions. Ask yourself if the new culture will really suit you (and your family).

BE PREPARED - ...For anything and everything to go wrong. Don't assume that you'll be able to find the perfect job or house immediately. If possible make sure you've got enough money to see you through the first 3-6 months at the very least (preferably longer). And to do that you'll need to...

BUDGET - As unglamorous as it sounds, good budgeting could be what makes the difference between a successful relocation and a disaster. Before you go, work out what everything is going to cost during those crucial first months when you're trying to find your feet in a foreign land.

DON'T DELAY - Start preparing as early as possible, just getting all the necessary paperwork in order can take a long time. Make a checklist of everything you need to do!

CHECK YOUR BENEFITS - If your company has initiated your move you may be eligible for relocation benefits. Make sure you ask if they haven't told you already!

HEALTH - Make sure that there is healthcare facilities and infrastructure to support you (and your family), especially if you suffer from a medical condition, which requires treatment or medication. Choose the best
Health insurance NOT the cheapest

YOUR HOME - Think about what you want to do with your current home (e.g. sell it, lease it, leave it empty) and what kind of accommodation will be most suitable in your new country. If you don't know anyone in the new country who can help find accommodation, consider the services of a relocation agent.

EMPLOYMENT - Will you be looking for work in your new country? If so, consider starting your job hunt before you go (use the Internet!) Will you be able to use your existing qualifications or will a period of retraining be necessary? If you're moving somewhere where they don't speak the same language as you then you should...

LEARN THE LANGUAGE - Few skills will have such a positive impact on your relocation experience as being able to speak, or at least understand, the local language. Getting to grips with the local lingo before you go is a great idea!

PAPERWORK - No matter how insignificant that old document at the back of the bottom drawer may seem now, take it with you, the chances are at some stage you'll have to show it to someone. Moving countries can be a bureaucratic nightmare at the best of times but if you come prepared with the necessary paperwork you stand the best chance of a stress free relocation. Things to think about include birth certificates, wedding certificates, educational certificates, medical certificates (including those for your pets!), etc.

FRIENDS & FAMILY - Don't forget to inform everyone of your new address and when you're going (unless you don't want them to find you, of course ;-) Seriously though, saying goodbye to friends and family can be the hardest thing about leaving, be prepared for an emotional rollercoaster ride as the day of departure draws near.

YOUR BELONGINGS - Will you be taking everything with you or leaving some items in storage (or even getting rid of them completely)? How will you move your belongings? Can you transport them yourself or do you need the services of a moving company? Set aside those things you need to take with you in person so they don't get packed accidentally (passports, tickets, etc.)

INSURANCE - Once you've decided what you're taking with you, insure it. If you haven't already arranged appropriate insurance (health/life/travel, etc.) for yourself and your family as well...DO SO!

BANKING - You may need to open a new bank account in your new country - look for information on the one which suits you best. Do you need to close your current bank account? At the very least you'll need to tell your current bank that you're moving.

CREDIT CARDS - Credit card companies need to be informed you're moving. Also, will the credit cards you're taking with you be widely accepted?

DRIVING - Depending on where you're going and how long you're going to be there you may need to apply for a new driving license or even take a driving test. Will you take your car with you or buy/rent/lease one when you get to your destination country?

UTILITIES etc - Gas, electricity, cable companies and so on will need to be informed of your departure and contracts terminated where appropriate. Make arrangements for final meter readings and bill payments.

POST REDIRECTION - Having your mail redirected after you leave can prevent you from missing something important.

ELECTRIC DEVICES AND MOBILE PHONES - Check whether or not your TV, video, hair dryer, alarm clock etc will work in the new country. You may need to take out a new network subscription for a mobile phone (or buy a new one with a subscription) - watch out for roaming charges with your current phone if you use it.

EMAIL - If moving means you can't keep your current email address, consider a free web based email account you can access from anywhere.
And finally, a couple of important tips for when you get to your new country...

MAKE FRIENDS - Whether locals or fellow expats, nothing will help you more than being able to rely on the assistance of your friends when you need it. Don't think that socialising is time wasted, it's what makes a new country feel like home.

DON'T BE TOO HARD ON YOURSELF - Moving to a new country is difficult. Even when everything goes according to plan it's still difficult. There will be times when you're physically and emotionally exhausted but try not to let things get on top of you. Don't be shy about posting a message to this forum to ask for help or support, we've all been there before.

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 May 16, 11, 14:14    #2
good post:)
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 May 16, 11, 14:48    #3
Hi, an informative posts.


warszawski:
Don't be shy about posting a message to this forum to ask

Thats what i do (but some are such a *er* on the way they like to comment).
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 May 27, 11, 17:17    #4
very helpful :)
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 May 27, 11, 17:31    #5
Wildrovers check list...

Fuel in car....yep

money to buy a farm in Poland....yep

phrase book...yep...

map of Poland...yep

Right then...lets get started...
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 May 27, 11, 21:43    #6
What documentation do i need to bring to poland with me? I've heard that all the government offices are very picky and stubborn...........
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 May 27, 11, 23:09    #7
wildrover:
Wildrovers check list...

Fuel in car....yep

money to buy a farm in Poland....yep

phrase book...yep...

map of Poland...yep

Right then...lets get started...



that's the approach I like :) ;)
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 May 27, 11, 23:21    #8
My checklist was

No car

No money

No job

No friends

Very little Polish

Some things have changed, except no car and no money. Still, it's been a great four years, and unless things completely unforeseen occur, I'm planning on staying in Poland until I croak.
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Edited by: grubas  May 27, 11, 23:28    #9
scottie1113:
I'm planning on staying in Poland until I croak.

I am planning to croak in Poland but until I kick the bucket i will only be a visitor unless some drastic change for better occurre in Poland.You must be a crazy person but good luck to you.
wildrover:
Fuel in car....yep

money to buy a farm in Poland....yep

phrase book...yep...

map of Poland...yep

Good planning man.
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 May 27, 11, 23:33    #10
grubas:
Good planning man.


I am not sure its good planning...

But it worked out ok...
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 May 27, 11, 23:33    #11
scottie1113:
My checklist was

No car

No money

No job

No friends

Very little Polish



so i can expect 4 years.................
should i bring my own bucket??


anyone with a real answer to my original question?................
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 May 27, 11, 23:35    #12
grubas:
You must be a crazy person but good luck to you.


Tak. Jestem wariat. :) It helps to be a little older to do what I did. Lots of life experience behind me when I came here.
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 May 27, 11, 23:40    #13
PADDYTR:
What documentation do i need to bring to poland with me?


That kinda depends on what you want to do here....?
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 May 27, 11, 23:41    #14
scottie1113:
Tak. Jestem wariat. :) It helps to be a little older to do what I did. Lots of life experience behind me when I came here.

Yeah it's not that bad in PL but the taxes and fees and prices of most of stuff,I just can't take it man.
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 May 27, 11, 23:48    #15
wildrover:
That kinda depends on what you want to do here....?


live work and a bit more living after that


life experience i have ....believe me a lot packed into my 30 short years
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 May 27, 11, 23:51    #16
Just bring your passport , and all personal documents....

For most of what i have needed to do in Poland my passport was the thing that got asked for usually....
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Edited by: Wroclaw Boy  May 27, 11, 23:55    #17
My check list in 2005:

want to move to Poland: yep
have some money: yep

Done deal
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 May 27, 11, 23:58    #18
Wroclaw Boy:
wouldn't recommend the move without knowledge of the language though.



You can get around that part if you have trusted Polish friends who speak English...

Without them i would have had no chance....
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 May 27, 11, 23:59    #19
what about birth cert, tax documentation from ireland,i guess basically what im asking is do i need anything that one wouldnt think of .... any unusual requests from the various offices ill be spending endless hours at, besides a fully charged i-pod, a good book and a packed lunch : )
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 May 28, 11, 00:03    #20
Most of what you want can be done around a passport and proof of address, tax stuff and previous employment history is what you need for a mortgage etc.. its not a big deal really, but why register in the first place, stay of the radar.
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 May 28, 11, 00:04    #21
wildrover:

You can get around that part if you have trusted Polish friends who speak English...

Without them i would have had no chance....



well i have the missus...........and a dictionary
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Edited by: wildrover  May 28, 11, 00:05    #22
PADDYTR:
what about birth cert, tax documentation from ireland,


I have been in Poland almost six years....

never been asked for tax documents , and the first time i have needed my birth certificate was to send to my lawyer in Moscow to get documents to marry my Russian girlfriend....

If your wife speaks Polish you will have a lot easier time than i did....
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 May 28, 11, 00:11    #23
Wroclaw Boy:
  Today, 00:03 / #20   
Reply

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Most of what you want can be done around a passport and proof of address, tax stuff and previous employment history is what you need for a mortgage etc.. its not a big deal really, but why register in the first place, stay of the radar.




but if i want proof of address do i not need to register?
and does not registering mean no tax???
off the radar to me is no tax no known address etc.
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 May 28, 11, 05:38    #24
PADDYTR:
but if i want proof of address do i not need to register?
and does not registering mean no tax???
off the radar to me is no tax no known address etc.


You have to register in Poland, if you intend to stay here for longer than three months. If you wish to work you will need a tax number.
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 May 28, 11, 09:09    #25
PADDYTR:
but if i want proof of address do i not need to register?
and does not registering mean no tax???
off the radar to me is no tax no known address etc.


You will need to register every 90 days until you get the permanent residency permit (first one lasts 2 years, second one, 5 years, third one, 10 years)
(before you ask why its called a "permanent" residence permit, welcome to Poland!!!!
After the first 90 days you will automatically be issued with a Pesel number (but they will not tell you this so you have to ask for it)
If you wish to join the Polish Heath care scheme (ZUS) you will need Pesel and a NIP number, your P45 or proof of up to date NI payments in Ireland.(This will allow you the same free medical care as a Pole, consultations, hospital care, reduced cost of prescriptions etc)
Birth certificate, Education, trade qualification certificates, marriage, divorce papers (decree nisi) etc must all be originals, no copies.
The blood samples, DNA and complete life history from the womb to the present day are only necessary if you want to apply for a credit card or mobile phone contract.
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 May 28, 11, 11:37    #26
Avalon:
You will need to register every 90 days until you get the permanent residency permit (first one lasts 2 years, second one, 5 years, third one, 10 years)
(before you ask why its called a "permanent" residence permit, welcome to Poland!!!!


That's changed now for EU citizens - now it's a 5 year permit, then 10 year "permanent" permit.

I'm told the real reason behind permanent residence permits only lasting 10 years is due to them wanting an updated picture of the person - in line with the requirements for Polish people.
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 May 28, 11, 11:44    #27
Avalon:
The blood samples, DNA and complete life history from the womb to the present day are only necessary if you want to apply for a credit card or mobile phone contract.


I was given two credit cards without any effort, together with 30K credit, from my wife's bank. First one I had to show my passport, but that was it.
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 May 28, 11, 12:00    #28
peterweg:
I was given two credit cards without any effort, together with 30K credit, from my wife's bank. First one I had to show my passport, but that was it.


Have you never heard of sarcastic humour?
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 May 28, 11, 12:26    #29
peterweg:
Avalon: The blood samples, DNA and complete life history from the womb to the present day are only necessary if you want to apply for a credit card or mobile phone contract.


Avalon:
Have you never heard of sarcastic humour?



so i dont need this pee sample and saliva swob then .............................5 minutes of my life ill never get back
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 May 28, 11, 18:13    #30
Warszawski ... A great thread.

Maybe we can add some information:

* stop subscriptions to (mobile) phone company, internet provider, cable television, etc ...
* ask for quotes from removal companies (if applicable)
* ask for quotes from storage companies (if applicable)
* what about car insurance in case you have a car, and want to take it to PL?
* write down meters of water, gas, electricity companies and inform them
* what about if you wanna take your dog and/or cat, hamster, rabbit, budgy, canary, and other pets to PL.

If some of you know the answer, please post it here.

(One of) my last post(s) from the Netherlands. Tomorrow morning at 04:00 we'll be driving to PL. Got the van packed, the rest of the stuff which I don't need immediately is in storage. The only thing I need to pack is the tele, a couple of sleeping bags and inflatable matrasses and my laptop.

A new fase in my life. I'm sure it'll work out just fine.


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