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AmathystThreads: 30
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Joined: Nov 10, 06  Pictures: 2 ♀ 		 Jul 14, 11, 19:55    #91
modafinil:

Not true. I worked in that field. 3rd world doctors are not over-represented in GMC complaints.


Really? I'll have to tell my friend she is a liar then as stated, she actually works for the GMC.

modafinil:

Not true. I worked in that field. 3rd world doctors are not over-represented in GMC complaints. The work permit is more regarding nursing


So are you telling me Indan doctors do not need a visa for post grad positions?

modafinil:
A work permit only needs a Medical Director to rubber stamp a letter. The real issue is on linguistic ability.


Tell that to the 1,000s of doctors that studied in the UK...who had to go home :D

modafinil:
Polish doctors move to countries where pay is much higher than the UK where Consultant level medicine may get you £80k for a three day week, a pittance compared to the US. Poland's education for medicine is well reputed as are Jag Uni graduates.


Sounds like English doctors!
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Joined: Jun 28, 11  Pictures: 2 ♂ 		 Jul 14, 11, 21:07    #92
Amathyst:
Really? I'll have to tell my friend she is a liar then as stated, she actually works for the GMC.


Yep, ask her again. There was also an investigation into racism in the GMC the findings were left open to speculation with nothing proven.

Amathyst:
So are you telling me Indan doctors do not need a visa for post grad positions?


Political football on this: the NHS and DoH actively went looking for Doctors from India in specialties British doctors weren't into, it was the home office said no but some time this year they stood down with Vince Cable saying high-skilled will get in(but hey, high skilled are unlikely to be claiming benefits). Wouldn't have a need to if it weren't for the 48hr week working time directive that immediately caused a shortage of doctors.
Everyone from over those areas need work-visas don't they? I thought it has been like that since forever.
Anyway, as for stemming doctor flow you may find the opposite is true. UK doctors will always come first - I can't recall of the maybe 100 junior doctors I met that weren't British. Nurses, now that's another story, but no Indains, Pakistanis or Nepalese so I won't go into it.

Sokrates:
I should get black slaves on account of being white


You know, Abe Lincoln showed it was more cost efficient to hire workers as employees than keep slaves.
legendThreads: 9
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Joined: Apr 23, 11 ♂ 		 Jul 14, 11, 21:44    #93
manching23:
Its just that you people have no moral standards. You are not tolerant to other cultures. You wanna be spokesperson of EU without doing anything. May I ask you, what you poles have contributed to French or German or British economies? Lot of companies went sick in Germany, why we had to look outside EU to save them? why poles did not come foward? and now they wanna speak for the EU? isn't it immoral. What is your contribution to EU ? I frequently travel to Poland and I hear poles whinning against germans and other people. Poles coming to Germany questioning Germans , why so many foriegners are here? Thats we dont have any pole in my company in the whole of West European offices.


Poles are not tolerant to others? We are tolerant but some prefer Poland to have a majority Polish cultural.
Its not a bad thing.
Are you asian? Japan is very homogeneous country and it is doing fine (its basically got the best economy in the world along with Germany). Just because its homogeneous (like Poland) doesnt mean its bad. The people there are very friendly and keep their cultural. Same thing with Taiwan.

Poled contribute them with exports (grains, etc) and money from imports. Poland was in "Communism" for decades and completely flattened after WWII. Little or no other countries had it this bad. It is a valid reason.
manching23:
Even asians were at the war. Thats not a convenient excuse. If they could do it, why not you?
Did'nt we dole out lot of cash to you? Even after that you are no where.
Now why should we pay for your polish kids and other east european kids when they will not even finish abitur and for skilled people, we have to look for the non EU chaps. You are fooling around with our tax payers money. Also you come to work in Germany, yu dont pay taxes. You are siphoning of the money. The same you are doing in UK, you work without contracts. You are cheating brits too. After that you speak **** against brits and germans.


Here since you seem rather harsh let me respond in a harsh matter.

Germany bombed the **** out of Poland, killed millions and millions of civilians. Destroyed the main cities. Warsaw was flattened. Germany paid Jews reparations. So think of Germany giving Poland money as reparations. Because lets face it lives are priceless and money is money :)

British people have little to whine about. They opened their borders and now you are complaining about Poles there. Blame your government.
manching23  Jul 16, 11, 19:36    #94
legend:
We are tolerant but some prefer Poland to have a majority Polish cultural.


Not really you hate germans coz of history. You hate chinese, japanese, koreans and indians.

You know the people you like are arabs, pakis, nepalis and africans. What will you do with this illiterate garbage ?
manching23  Jul 16, 11, 19:37    #95
legend:
Are you asian?


Hey I am bavarian, german and true aryan.
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Joined: May 29, 11 ♂ 		 Jul 16, 11, 19:43    #96
manching23:
german and true aryan

Hey, don't come that master race crap Fritz. Don't you remember what happened last time? And the time before?
manching23  Jul 16, 11, 19:51    #97
legend:
British people have little to whine about.


Well ,I am sorry for my brit brothers. Their horizons are not broad. Earlier they were complaining about jews being rich and later they had problems with indians. Colonial fever seems to gripped them. They find it hard to digest the fact that some indians are richer than her majesty, the people they ruled for 200 years . So they opened the doors for you chaps well knowing the fact that you can never match them. Well , they are welcome here after all 35% of indian population is aryan , our lost brothers. They fought with us in WW2. They stood with us in our difficult times.
manching23  Jul 16, 11, 19:55    #98
teflcat:
Hey, don't come that master race crap Fritz. Don't you remember what happened last time? And the time before?


Hey today we are economic powerhouse of Europe, the locomotive of european economy in the words of new IMF chief. Its not Poland, ain't it?
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manching23:
indian population is aryan , our lost brothers. They fought with us in WW2. They stood with us in our difficult times.


Are you telling me that Indians stood with Germans in WWII? As far as I was aware India was still a British colony and they were on our side...

manching23:

Well ,I am sorry for my brit brothers. Their horizons are not broad.


Thanks for the sympathy, but we're not ready to throw in the towel just yet :) We've come through much worse, we just need to get back to basics as and Island we have gone through many transitions over the decades, things are changing here some for the better.

manching23:
They find it hard to digest the fact that some indians are richer than her majesty, the people they ruled for 200 years


I have no issue with this, my issue is that we still give foreign aid to this country which effectively comes out of my pocket, let them look after their own and we in turn will do the same for our own.

manching23:
Hey today we are economic powerhouse of Europe, the locomotive of european economy in the words of new IMF chief.


Yet you still have laws that Hitler introduced...
manching23  Jul 16, 11, 20:09    #100
modafinil:
UK doctors will always come first


Well very few brits passout in medicine in UK. Few wanna study medicine. Here too same situation. Many good doctors are moving in management positions after MBA. I have few of them in my area , consulting. But we cannot fill those slots wit Polish or East european doctors, no way! Very poor skills and bad temper.
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Joined: Nov 10, 06  Pictures: 2 ♀ 		 Jul 16, 11, 20:15    #101
manching23:

Well very few brits passout in medicine in UK. Few wanna study medicine.


Both of my brothers and both of my sisters work in the medical profession my cousin is also doctor and so is her husband, this is just one family - you may want to revise your comments.
manching23  Jul 16, 11, 20:18    #102
Amathyst:
my issue is that we still give foreign aid to this country


Not really, they refused it. Check it out. But your goverment still wants to give them. Well, I work in consulting firm and many of my colleagues are brits,they tell me everything. Your country gets the most inward FDI from asian countries and not Poland. Just introspect. No point in hating asians. Hate these **** pakis, africans, arabs etc. Kick them out of UK.
manching23  Jul 16, 11, 20:22    #103
Amathyst:
you may want to revise your comments.


Well it may be in your family but dont generalise it. Very few brits want to study medicine and engineering, they are more intrested in management areas like investment banking.Brits are very good management chaps like Americans.
manching23  Jul 16, 11, 20:27    #104
Amathyst:
Are you telling me that Indians stood with Germans in WWII? As far as I was aware India was still a British colony and they were on our side...


Well they fought on your side and were captured by Germans. After that they fought with Germans till the end. We still have it in our minds, we have not forgotten it. You can find it on net. Before war also, we were supporting them against you.
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manching23:
Very few brits want to study medicine and engineering


Okay, I've worked on and off in Engineering for 11 years - I can tell you that EXCELLENT young British grads are coming through every year - I really have no idea where you get your ideas from, you really really are talking complete sh*te!!!!

manching23:
Brits are very good management chaps like Americans.


We are also excellent in other fields.

manching23:
areas like investment banking.


Plenty of Germans working in the City of London so it would appear you lot like these positions too.

manching23:
Well it may be in your family but dont generalise it.


All their friends are from the same profession - they're all British, so Im hardly generalising!

manching23:
After that they fought with Germans till the end.


I as I always say, Indians are not to be trusted!
salted  Jul 17, 11, 01:20    #106
the fascination is they are competition for the finite crap jobs in better eu nations
manching23  Jul 19, 11, 10:07    #107
Amathyst:
you really really are talking complete sh*te!!!!


Well not really, most of the bright engineers with leadership skills work in management today not technical areas. Most of my british fellowmates are engineers from reputed places in UK like cranfield with an MBA from best B schools.

Amathyst:
I as I always say, Indians are not to be trusted!


Well I am sorry, if we go back to the history, you brits were the occupying forces so they were never with you. You forced them in the war. Today , they are the most reliable people. Otherwise they would have closed all the big plants in UK and outsourced it to India or China, but see they never did it. Rather , they recruiting more of you brits. Well the indie guys who go to Poland are really cheap idiots. My indie colleagues also dont like them, crap stuff. You poles be careful of this indie stuff in poland. They are like pakis , nepalis, bangladeshis.
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manching23:
MBA from best B schools.


,, yawn.. which means you can regurgitate informaton somebody else thought of .. take tests reasonbably well. Congratulations on that. B schools teach you scenarios.. not innovation. Where is the real money at? Not in some glorified lackey.
manching23  Jul 19, 11, 11:15    #109
Pinching Pete:
Where is the real money at? Not in some glorified lackey.

Well a simple chap cannot understand those scenarios. Real money is in investment banking or management consulting or entrepreneurship. Most of the engineers yearn to work for these 2 areas but they cannot get there. Most of the industry leaders also come from management consulting. Well, you may learn innovation but not turn up as an inventor or perhaps an innovator.
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Joined: Sep 27, 11 ♂ 		 Nov 7, 11, 19:01    #110
When Munni arrived in this fertile, sugarcane-growing region of north India as a young bride years ago, little did she imagine she would be forced into having sex and bearing children with her husband's two brothers who had failed to find wives.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/10/27/uk-india-women-exploitation-i dUKTRE79Q1WJ20111027
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Nov 15, 11, 20:03    #111
Ah, good thread. I think many of the gents from those countries would be right royally whipped into shape by Polish women. They may have seen smiling, pretty faces but they didn't see the fangs ;)

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