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Guess Edited by: Moderator  Jul 15, 06, 22:35    #1
It's a known fact: the Pole is happy when his neighbor or even a friend has bad luck. Why is that?
mmm  Jul 15, 06, 22:47    #2
It's the Polish nature, that's all.
guest  Jul 16, 06, 00:04    #3
I agree, poles like putting down other people, they lack respect for others point of view
Pipi  Jul 16, 06, 06:25    #4
Quoting: guest, Post #3
they lack respect for others point of view


How true! Finally someone said that!
Wujek_Dobra_Rada Edited by: Wujek_Dobra_Rada  Jul 16, 06, 06:45    #5
The troll is back.
david j  Jul 16, 06, 22:01    #6
no.I think it's common...probably envy.

there is an old Jewish saying,"every time my friend succeeds,I die a little".
rafikThreads: 21
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Joined: Jun 22, 06 ♂ 		 Jul 17, 06, 05:27    #7
Quoting: Guess, Post #1
It's a known fact: the Pole is happy when his neighbor or even a friend has bad luck. Why is that?

that is normal for everyone.if your friend who lets say was a bin man and who you used to drink cheap cider with won 5mln£ .would be cheering with him?next week you see him drive a new lamborgini and pulling another supermodel and you are still in the same shit-40 hours a week job,the same ugly wife and the same ugly vauxhall astra would you be cheering with him?i doubt it.then suddenly he loses everything because of lets say tax people he fcuked up with. how would you think?would you feel sory for him?i think you would go and buy another cider, kick a wife and shagg a cat-oh sorry the other way roundto celebrate it
it is called envy and it is inside of everyone of us
regards rafik
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Joined: Jul 8, 08 ♀ 		 Jul 8, 08, 06:49    #8
I noticed that Polish people are very cold. When I show my emotions,they don't comfort me, but get angry. When I cry they say, I am a baby and tell me to grow up. Like they can't show or feel empathy for someone else. I am not crying because I broke my nail, or something ;-)...I cry because I got hurt, when my hart is in pain. Maybe it is because in Poland its a hard life. But I feel missunderstood sometimes.
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Joined: Jul 11, 07 ♂ 		 Jul 8, 08, 06:51    #9
i would agree with most of the sentiment shown on this topic, there is a bit of 'enjoyment' at others expense and also the Polish as a breed specialise in being selfish, not that they go out of their way to upset or put out others but life is all about 'self self self' they don't mind how they get there, who and what they use to get there as long as they do it.
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sadly I agree with Torny
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sapphire:

sadly I agree with Torny

i know, i take no pleasure in saying what i said at all, it just seems that its the way. I've experienced it and seen it many times. I know you should not generalise but this seems to be a pretty accurate point
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Joined: Feb 20, 07 ♂ 		Edited by: szarlotka  Jul 8, 08, 07:30    #12
Fancy laughing at others misfortunes and begrudging them success..... wouldn't find us Brits doing that would you?

And thanks to Sabine84 for resurrecting this thread. It has got smilies in it.... Sigh they were good
miranda  Jul 8, 08, 08:45    #13
szarlotka:
And thanks to Sabine84 for resurrecting this thread.

digging some oldies is always refreshing.
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miranda:
digging some oldies is always refreshing.


Quite. I mean after Seanus and SeanBM started posting Rory Gallagher on the music thread I went home and listened to his music until 3 in the morning...
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Guess:
the Pole is happy when his neighbor or even a friend has bad luck. Why is that?


Because it means he will have a good luck.
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Joined: Jul 23, 07 ♂ 		 Jul 8, 08, 09:00    #16
tornado2007:
i would agree with most of the sentiment shown on this topic, there is a bit of 'enjoyment' at others expense and also the Polish as a breed specialise in being selfish, not that they go out of their way to upset or put out others but life is all about 'self self self' they don't mind how they get there, who and what they use to get there as long as they do it.


True but I've also seen them help each other out more than other people. We all have only so much goodwill and Poles probably like to save it all for people they actually know.
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Joined: Feb 15, 07 ♂ 		 Jul 8, 08, 09:21    #17
I agree with David and others. Envy is scarcely the monopoly of the Poles! The Germans say 'Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude.' = Gloating is the sweetest pleasure.

I seem to recall a similar thread on precisely this topic some time back. Or am I mistaken?

In terms of personal jealousies, the French, in my experience, top them all:) LOL
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Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂ 		 Aug 2, 08, 18:00    #18
Schadenfreude doesn't meaning gloating I think, ask BB. It comes from schade which means pity. I think u mean misfortune and not gloating tho I could be wrong.

I've been told that Americans, being an ultra materialistic society, are much more this way than the Poles. Isn't this true?
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Joined: Jun 27, 08 ♂ 		 Aug 2, 08, 18:07    #19
Aye. I haven't read the thread and maybe it's already ben said but I believe schadenfreude is taking pleasure at someone else's misfortune.

Nothing makes me laugh more than seeing someone else tread in a cow pat. Aye. There nothing funnier than that
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Or slide in a freshly laid turd, now that's funny!!
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Kilkline:


True but I've also seen them help each other out more than other people. We all have only so much goodwill and Poles probably like to save it all for people they actually know.

well its the people they know that they F**K over too!!!!!
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Kilkline:
True but I've also seen them help each other out more than other people. We all have only so much goodwill and Poles probably like to save it all for people they actually know.

thats deffinatley true..travelling thro poland ive needed much help from ppl...most of the polish say they dont kno and ignore me...however when i meet family or friends of family they seem to be the nicest ive people ive ever met... the polish like to discriminate on many different criterias including strangers
miranda Edited by: miranda  Aug 2, 08, 19:08    #23
Pimpek,

I hope you don't introduce yourself as Pimpek when asking for help:)
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Misfortunes of others are the very foundation of so called good business practices.
"Buy low, sell high" is just one example.

Bankruptcy sales allow for some of the best deals out there. Right here on this forum I read comments by Americans and Brits about how great the times are to buy property in the US now. Well, these properties were inhabited buy families who are now living in the streets.

What about reposessions? Banks make huge amounts of money on those. Sometimes more that if the loan is actually paid of according to a schedule.

What about doctors? Would all of them be really happy if all diseases somehow vanished? Do you really think there would be enough jobs if all cops did was helping the elderly cross the street. Plumbers make money when we found ourselves in... well... deep sh!t. Roofers love leaky roofs. We could go on and on an on, and then we would still have gobs of examples we missed.

A have been told by an American pal of mine: I am not happy with someone's tragedy but I am happy with their misfortunes and failures because they automatically make me look better without a slightest effort on my part.

And as Osiol mentioned, misofortunes of others is one of the best way to make Brits (and not only) laugh.
Wahldo  Aug 2, 08, 22:55    #25
Seanus:
Schadenfreude


Pretty much means to delight in the misfortunes of others, but as you say, BB ,I'm sure will erklaren.

z_darius:
A have been told by an American pal of mine


You admit to having an American pal? Careful man. You know there is protocol here. You're a good writer, tabby; I don't believe hate is always on your plate.
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Wahldo:
You admit to having an American pal? Careful man.

Why be careful. I met more decent Americans than America as.sholes. Although I may have seen more as.sholes than decent ones.

Wahldo:
I don't believe hate is always on your plate.

Hatred? Opinion <> hatred.
IMO hatred is never a cause. On some occasions it may be a result.
Wahldo  Aug 2, 08, 23:22    #27
z_darius:
Hatred? Opinion <> hatred.



Well... anyway, it was just an observation. Have a good weekend. P.S. chances are I'm not sneaking over the border tonight to slit your throat.
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miranda:
Pimpek,

I hope you don't introduce yourself as Pimpek when asking for help:)

nah haha =]
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Because Polish are individualists. My grandparents and their generation don't feel sorry for anyone. Because compassion is a sign of weakness. And if you're a weak then you can't stay vigilant. Often, if you cry for Pole it's a sign of your weakness. And it doesn't matter if it's family or not. And the reason is our history- when everyone had to fight to survive. Certainly it's a generalization.
miranda  Aug 3, 08, 06:23    #30
Milena:
Certainly it's a generalization.

and a big one too.

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