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pawianThreads: 90
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Deputy Prime Minister Pawlak speaks English in Brussels:

http://www.tvn24.pl/-1,1721170,0,1,thats-a-very-important-goal,wiadomo sc.html
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HAHAHAHAHA. oh boy. this is gonna be a good one.

my 2 cents:

his english sucks and it was completely rehearsed lines that he practiced with his pricey English teacher all month. oh, and it was all written down for him on the table directly in front of him.

he looked scared out of his mind....and rightfully so. i can guarantee he needed a translator for that entire meeting.

i'll wait for some links to real poles born in Poland who are important political figures in Poland, or anyone regularly in Polish media whatsoever, speaking decent English. and even though i shouldn't have to say it, Sikorski doesn't count for obvious reasons.
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=FUZZYWICKETS]my 2 cents:

You are so cruel.

Why don`t you appreciate the fact that a Polish farmer speaks English? :):):):)
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pawian:
Why don`t you appreciate the fact that a Polish farmer speaks English? :):):):)

Sometimes I think they pretend intentionally ;)
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pawian:
Why don`t you appreciate the fact that a Polish farmer speaks English? :):):):


I do.
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=FUZZYWICKETS]
i'll wait for some links to real poles born in Poland who are important political figures in Poland, or anyone regularly in Polish media whatsoever, speaking decent English. and even though i shouldn't have to say it, Sikorski doesn't count for obvious reasons.

Here is Sikorski, current Foreign Minister (PO)



Listen to former FM, Anna Fotyga (PiS)



Sikorsky is slightly better - he speaks more fluently! :):):)
Lyzko  Oct 17, 11, 23:08    #7
It's often easy to fake a language (including one's own)-:)

How do we actually know that these people are speaking English and not mouthing a teleprompter's text?
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pawian wrote:

Here is Sikorski

i made it a point to write, "and Sikorski doesn't count for obvious reasons" thinking it was actually worth my time. apparently not.

Sikorski doesn't count for obvious reasons.

pawian wrote:

Sikorsky is slightly better - he speaks more fluently! :):):)

ya think?!!!

Lyzko wrote:

How do we actually know that these people are speaking English and not mouthing a teleprompter's text?

sure.

Anna Fotyga......I sat and listened to it twice.....and I have no idea what she was talking about. It sounded like some convoluted, pieced together, premeditated answer.
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FUZZYWICKETS:
Sikorski doesn't count for obvious reasons.

What reasons that would be ?
mischeThreads: 2
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Jan Vincent Rostowski, Minister of Finance


Leszek Balcerowicz, economist


Janusz Lewandowski, Budget and Financial Programming Commissioner of the European Commission
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Ironside wrote:

What reasons that would be ?

is that a serious question.

the guy spent half his life in english speaking countries and just living abroad in general.
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=FUZZYWICKETS]is that a serious question.

the guy spent half his life in english speaking countries and just living abroad in general.

Fuzz, don`t be silly. Count Sikorsky in, of course. The fact he stayed so long in English speaking countries doesn`t matter. Quite the opposite, it makes his case even more educational for us. Do you mean what I know, Mr Expert? :):):):)

=FUZZYWICKETS]i made it a point to write, "and Sikorski doesn't count for obvious reasons" thinking it was actually worth my time. apparently not.

What you think may be sometimes worthless. Therefore, don`t think too much on clear threads. :):):):)

The OP`s intention for this thread`s content was as the title says. Can you read it again?

Is Sikorski a Pole? Yes. Does he speak English? Yes.
So?
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Er guys I think you're getting this wrong.

I'm not speaking for Fuzzy but surely he meant "excluding Sikorski, before you mention him as everyone knows and agrees his English is very good, it's a given"

That's how I read it.
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=Teffle]his English is very good,

It isn`t, in fact, and that is what I meant by "educational."
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pawian:
Here is Sikorski, current Foreign Minister (PO)


Sikorski is educated in Oxford, spent time as a war correspondent in Afghanistan for a British magaizne co you can't really compare him to Fotyga - sure it's better if a foreign minister is fluent and outspoken in English, but it's not that they still don't use interpreters in their talks - and in such a diplomatic environment as the EU Poland should use a couple of interpreters at a time (English, German, French or others depening on the countries involved - think of negotiating things with Mrs Merkel and not having not just an English intrepreter but also an interpreter of German at hand)

I think, Mrs Fotyga's English is decent enough
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gumishu:
I think, Mrs Fotyga's English is decent enough

She shouldn't even attempt to speak English, don't they employ interpreters ?

Rostowski's English is good enough but he is a c**t anyway.
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mische:
Jan Vincent Rostowski, Minister of Finance


Rostowski born in London in a family of immigrants who stayed in the UK after 1945 - the language he speaks is the language of someone who has grown up and got educated in the environment of the language - his English is much better than Sikorki's if you ask me
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pawian:
It isn`t, in fact,


What's wrong with it??
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=Teffle]What's wrong with it??

Nothing. Just a funny remark - unless you graduate from the English Language department at a Polish/British/American university, you have no chance to learn to speak perfect language.
theKNOWLEDGE  Oct 18, 11, 15:58    #20
Sidonia Jedrzejewska's (sp?) English is fantastic.

Most of the MEP's tend to have pretty good English, to be fair.
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pawian wrote:

The OP`s intention for this thread`s content was as the title says. Can you read it again?

Is Sikorski a Pole? Yes. Does he speak English? Yes.
So?

And I know a few Polish people, born in Poland but grew up in Chicago and in Greenpoint, Brooklyn, that speak amazing English. Are they Poles? Yes. Do they speak English? Yes.

Don't play dumb here. If an Englishman spends 20 years in germany and tells you he speaks german, who would give a flyin' toss? It's expected, and it's not thread worthy.

Nobody wants to read a thread about poles that speak english that have spent decades in english speaking countries and I can guarantee you the OP wanted to display Poles who have learned English, not people that grew up in Australia or the UK that have Polish roots or some random Polish last name or people that spent decades living in English speaking countries, were educated in their universities, etc. It's not an accomplishment at that point, it's simply expected.

gumishu wrote:

Rostowski born in London in a family of immigrants who stayed in the UK after 1945

this is what i'm talking about and it's a waste to even mention Rostowski.
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=FUZZYWICKETS]and it's not thread worthy.

I decide what is thread worthy! :):):)

I already told you, don`t think too much, you are wasting your time on worthless issues. :):):)

FUZZYWICKETS:
Nobody wants to read a thread about poles that speak english that have spent decades in english speaking countries


Sorry, but your supposition sucks! :):):)

=FUZZYWICKETS]I can guarantee you the OP wanted to display Poles who have learned English, not people that grew up in Australia or the UK that have Polish roots or some random Polish last name or people that spent decades living in English speaking countries,

Of course, he fekking didn`t. It happens I know the OP very well and am aware of his intentions. :):):):):)


=FUZZYWICKETS]this is what i'm talking about and it's a waste to even mention Rostowski.

A little request: why don`t you just fekk off, troll? :):):):):):):):)
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Sikorski went to UK, because he won the Olympics in English. Radek learned English from books and private lessons, he was quite proficient when he left Poland in '81.
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pawian:
unless you graduate from the English Language department at a Polish/British/American university, you have no chance to learn to speak perfect language.

Tommy rot!!!
Besides, is it not better that Polish Politicians concentrate their efforts on Polish matters and not learning another language.
After all,as people have said,thats why they have translators,experts who wont,hopefully,missunderestimate the submarines of the speach?
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pawian wrote:

A little request: why don`t you just fekk off, troll? :):):):):):):):)

I know.....I know. It must hurt to have your a$$ handed to you like that.
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=FUZZYWICKETS] It must hurt

No, I wasn`t hurt. :):):):) I just grabbed at the opportunity to address sb so. This time it fell on you. :):):):)

isthatu:
Tommy rot!!!


Prove it! :):):):)

=mische]Sikorski went to UK, because he won the Olympics in English. Radek learned English from books and private lessons, he was quite proficient when he left Poland in '81.

He obviously neglected the pronunciation aspect.
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Ooops!

Designer English
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pawian:
Designer English


kuba wojewodzki took the piss out of dear eva for months after her little speech
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Pawian, do you expect them to speak fluently as their mother tongue?

That kind of demand can come only from someone who's first language isn't English or ..those people.
Nobody expects that mastery simply because it is almost unachievable.

Foreigners who weren't during schooling at least for few years soaked in English, German, Polish, any language that was not spoken at home will always sound different than natives.

Also, without numerous mistakes in pronunciation and grammar, the language remains on the same level. Mistakes are part of the learning process.


I have only respect for people who aren't ashamed to try to communicate even when they have only basic knowledge of a language that is not theirs, and I interpret it is a sign of respect for the culture that language represents or for the person one communicates with. For example, I prefer Chinese and Japanese ambassadors in Serbia, both men speak fluently Serbian over some other pricks who use in interviews only their languages, fearing mocking or demonstrating power. And we all know that they have some basic knowledge.

stop the earth i want to get off
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Slavic female accent in english and deutsch is quite sexy I am not sure why.They add some feminity missing in these languages maybe.But when a Greek hears a German woman speaking he imagines constant BJs they have this tone of voice...the provocative one aka deep throat.

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