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truhleiThreads: 14
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Edited by: truhlei  Sep 28, 07, 07:43    #1
Are Polish Christians who share all 10 testaments and don't forget that human life starts since conception?
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 Sep 28, 07, 07:45    #2
Strict christians scare me.
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 Sep 28, 07, 07:56    #3
Poland is majorty Catholic but that is not to say everyone - also for the ones who are, I dont think everyone is that strict!! Actually I dont think many are strict at all...
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 Sep 28, 07, 08:18    #4
Quoting: Iskra
Actually I dont think many are strict at all...


I hope so ;)

And what about Protestants in Poland ? I know there are just a few of them, but does someone know how many are they ?...
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 Sep 28, 07, 08:22    #5
Nobody in Poland is strict catholic because everybody in Poland steals so that is one of the Ten Commandmants out of the window for a start!
osiolThreads: 59
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 Sep 28, 07, 09:20    #6
You have to sin in order to confess.
If you have nothing to confess,
you're obviously not trying.

- A non-Catholic
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Edited by: Lukasz  Sep 28, 07, 10:02    #7
Quoting: Polson
hope so ;)And what about Protestants in Poland ? I know there are just a few of them, but does someone know how many are they ?...


we have about 150 000 of protestants

1997-2001 we had PM who was Lutheran.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerzy_Buzek
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 Sep 28, 07, 10:11    #8
Quoting: Lukasz
1997-2001 we had PM who was Lutheran.


didn't even know that
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 Sep 28, 07, 10:45    #9
Quoting: Lukasz
we have about 150 000 of protestants


Thanks Lukasz ;) And do you know if there are more Protestants now, than before...? :p Just curious to know about them ;)
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 Sep 28, 07, 10:54    #10
Quoting: Polson
Thanks Lukasz ;) And do you know if there are more Protestants now, than before...? :p Just curious to know about them ;)


definately not, in the past all protestants refugies were coming to Poland (during religous wars) and a lot of Poles were protestant as well , it was very close our nobels (szlachta) would convert Poland in to protestant country. I can writte mor about that if you want or create new subiect about religions in Poland and history.
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 Sep 28, 07, 10:58    #11
Grzegorz,

The question was about Christians on this forum not about thiefs. Don't permit Michal keep you away from subject.
As to Michal I can't understand him. Ha has a Polish wife and his child has a Polish mother. I'm sure he doesn't think so.
Michal, Чего Вы здесь всех обижаете. Я же общаюсь с русофобами спокойно, а чем поляки могут обидеть англичанина?
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 Sep 28, 07, 10:58    #12
Thanks ;) It'd be weird if today Poland was Protestant...what would be the differences ? Maybe economic differences, ethical differences...
truhleiThreads: 14
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 Sep 28, 07, 10:59    #13
Quoting: Lukasz
I can writte mor about that if you want or create new subiect about religions in Poland and history.

That is very interesting but what about Christians in this forum?
truhleiThreads: 14
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 Sep 28, 07, 11:35    #14
I was impressioned by the news about a Polish woman who didn't abandoned her wounded husband (a railway worker) for 19 years he was out of conciousness away from any contact with the world as a vegetal.
She tried to moove him every hour during all these years.
For me that was the best news about Poland. The most glorious today because such women should exist more in Poland.
Michal, I suspect such women were in UK in Victorian age only. As to thiefs they are abundant in all states

Poles, what do you know about her? Is she strict Catholic?
It was told that married couple had 6 children
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 Sep 29, 07, 16:54    #15
Quoting: truhlei
That is very interesting but what about Christians in this forum?


Protestant or Catholic??
truhleiThreads: 14
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 Sep 29, 07, 16:59    #16
Quoting: Kaczor Duck
Protestant or Catholic??

Each strict Christian. Not arians as The society of watch tower
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 Sep 29, 07, 17:22    #17
??, the watch tower is the Johova Witnesses, they are a cult, i am a protestant, have an assoc. degree in theology, so can you elaborate about strict?? we just believe what the bible says, as the inerant word of God. So what people dont like about what it says, then they need to talk to God about it, The NT is written on Greek, so one word has one meaning, not like english, the word Love can be one of 5, one is Phillio (word we get Philadelphia, city of brotherly love) which means brotherly type of love, so any word love in the text, you ned to find out which it is, so when you mean strict, i look at is as proper translation. is this what you are looking for??, by the way , welcome to PF.
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 Sep 29, 07, 17:28    #18
There are very few Christians who adhere to what the Bible says.
If you were to follow everything, there would be no priests and church hierarchy.
There would be no shaving of beards or eating of shellfish and so on.
Some things would be better, some things would be worse.
Beards don't suit me and I like eating little sea creatures.
I do believe in love your neighbour, and that you shouldn't steal or kill.
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 Sep 29, 07, 17:49    #19
Quoting: osiol
There are very few Christians who adhere to what the Bible says.
If you were to follow everything, there would be no priests and church hierarchy.
There would be no shaving of beards or eating of shellfish and so on.
Some things would be better, some things would be worse.
Beards don't suit me and I like eating little sea creatures.
I do believe in love your neighbour, and that you shouldn't steal or kill.

Yes sir,
it depends on what you mean, i know that sounds silly, but Jesus taught about legalism, do you remember when the pharisis asked why he was gleening corn on the sabath, and he told them when you are hungry do you not eat (paraphrasing), he was saying there is a higher law, and that is of life, the law of life. Jesus came to fullfil what the law could not fullfil which is righteousness, so we are not subject to the law, because it can not make a man righteous, only believing in the son makes a man righteous, and this is not of man, but because of Christ, man can not be righteous on his own, and that is what the law showed. :)
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 Sep 29, 07, 18:04    #20
I'm not against the concept of church, even though it is not a part of the Bible.
Every religion needs some sort of organisation.
Churches at their best, do much for communities.
There are those whose beliefs are not strong, but being part of a congregation gives order to life and keeps people together.
But, on the other hand, it can be devisive.
I prefer to believe in what I believe in and leave being part of the community (at whatever level) to the secular world.
truhleiThreads: 14
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 Sep 29, 07, 18:10    #21
Quoting: Kaczor Duck
i am a protestant

I'm Orthodox
What is your denomination?
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 Sep 29, 07, 18:11    #22
Actually the church is a bog part of the bible, Jesus said to Paul, that this rock will I build my church. Not as a organization I agree, man has made it an organization.
Quoting: osiol
I'm not against the concept of church, even though it is not a part of the Bible.

Quoting: osiol
But, on the other hand, it can be devisive.

you will always have people who can not get along, and devisive, I agree, you know it only takes 2 people to mess something up, have you had a bad experience with a church, becasue I am a memeber of a church that is fantastic and very much into outreach in the community, this is in the mid west (illinois), very much different from the east coast.
Quoting: osiol
to the secular world.

And I can totally understand this, i have felt the same at times!!
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 Sep 29, 07, 18:12    #23
Quoting: truhlei
I'm Orthodox
What is your denomination?

I gotot a Baptist Church, but i consider myself to be just a christian, not wanting to be affiliated with a brand name. I would rather be outside of mans rules and just follow the word of God.
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 Sep 30, 07, 00:38    #24
Quoting: truhlei
Are Polish Christians who share all 10 testaments and don't forget that human life starts since conception?


I know what you mean, but we call them "commandments" here, unless I misunderstood your meaning. ;)

Anyway, I'm not Polish, but I'm also curious to know how popular faith is in Poland. I consider myself an Orthodox Christian, though denomination isn't all-important to me. I have nothing against the Romans. :)
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 Sep 30, 07, 08:57    #25
Quoting: Lightbulb
popular faith is in Poland


Yo Light man , I know that in a town where my friends is from Catholicism is hugh, and if you recall when Pope John Paul II came to Poland when the Ruskies were still in town it turned the country upside down and i believe that he is as well as Ronald Reagan, i believe that faith is a hugh part of thier lives, though as in all societies there is always the next generation that sometimes pulls away from what momma amd poppa was taught, but in this situation i believe that it is very strong, friends of ours from Vienna who are Polish citizens are very very strong in their faith.
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Edited by: Puzzler  Oct 1, 07, 01:45    #26
Quoting: Michal
Nobody in Poland is strict catholic because everybody in Poland steals so that is one of the Ten Commandmants out of the window for a start!


- And now the Orwellian yet non-British porkey pretending to be a-Polonophobic-English-patriot is playing an expert on stealing in Poland.

Apparently, the porkey assumes that since it comes from the Orwellian piggy tribe (that has grown fat from deception, theft, extortion, drug dealing, murder) then it will surely succeed in the forum members' taking it for an authority on vice, including stealing.
:)
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 Oct 30, 07, 09:22    #27
Quoting: truhlei
Christians

My experience is that most Polish catholics are religious, don't however confuse this with christianity.
A lot think that 'The Good Samaritan' is a pub in London.
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 Oct 30, 07, 09:28    #28
Quoting: osiol
There are very few Christians who adhere to what the Bible says.
If you were to follow everything, there would be no priests and church hierarchy.

Actually, it is no physically possible to follow everything the Bible says. Too many contradictions. Also, when one considers the number of Christian denominations (each of them claiming theirs is the only true path to the truth and correct interpretation of the Bible) then it become glaringly obvious that literal approach to what the book says is impossible.
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 Dec 3, 07, 22:13    #29
Quoting: truhlei
Are Polish Christians who share all 10 testaments and don't forget that human life starts since conception?
Please appear here in this topic.


Hey, i am new here but I can say I am one of them.

Quoting: osiol
There are very few Christians who adhere to what the Bible says.
If you were to follow everything, there would be no priests and church hierarchy.


Apologetics is not one of my most loved things, but idea that Church hierarchy is non biblical was in no one mind until the Reformation, so I guess it is a quite new idea. However, today most of Protestant Churches have also their hierarchy with bishops and so on. It can be discussed if they have the apostolic succession* but they claim it.

Quoting: osiol
Every religion needs some sort of organisation.
Churches at their best, do much for communities.


I can agree.




(In opinion of historical Christianity- like Orthodoxy, Catholicism and Oriental Orthodoxy- they do not.)
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 Dec 3, 07, 22:23    #30
Quoting: Kaczor Duck
The NT is written on Greek, so one word has one meaning, not like english, the word Love can be one of 5



It is not true. List of polish or English translation of many of Greek words can fill few pages in dictionary. Get the first Greek-Polish dictionary you find as we have some and check. New Testament word for love is also agape and it is not the same as philo. And what about aeon? Is it period of time, eternity or just hundred years? Other example: in NT you will find few times occuring word "ethnoi". Are their "nations" or rather the "heathens" and what about Jesus congreging "ethnoi" for the final judgement?

I'm sorry and don't want to set Sunday school here but I was extremely curious of your sayings about word meaning in Greek.


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