Polish culture do's and dont's?

TrevekThreads: 33 Posts: 2,155 Joined: May 21, 08 ♂	Feb 20, 10, 18:26 #91
Seanus: That's the one! You ask them not to say the answer until a certain level of info comes from their partner but still they jump in like know-alls. It's such a childish way! I've seen them in ones where you ask questions, just showing each other the questions and ticking off the answers.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Feb 20, 10, 18:30 #92
I never understood the frantic rush to get it done. That's the kind of thing you did in primary school.

TrevekThreads: 33 Posts: 2,155 Joined: May 21, 08 ♂	Edited by: Trevek Feb 20, 10, 18:35 #93
Seanus: I never understood the frantic rush to get it done. That's the kind of thing you did in primary school. yeah, and then they wonder why you just go, "OK, open the book; grammar exercises!" Mind you, it's not quite as annoying as that thing of asking a question and then talking in Polish to their neighbour while you try to explain the answer.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Feb 20, 10, 18:48 #94
Oh yeah, that should be a no-no in any culture. Thankfully, they do it sparingly but it does get on my wick. I understand them in a way if they are asking for confirmation from their partner.

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Feb 20, 10, 19:16 #95

Trevek:

Ah, yes! When you set a 30 minute task and before you turn around they've all shown each other the answers and say "We have finished!"

This points to one of the tasks expected of teachers - supervision of students. You don't turn around during a test. Period. It's not like Polish students have an innate tendency to cheat on tests while all others around the world don't. All university calendars published by schools I attended in the US and Canada had a chapter on cheating. Because it is nonexistent?

I taught EFL years ago. In Poland when I was 19 and then, a few years later, in the US. Most of my students were Poles, a few Latinos and Asians. I caught one (Asian) on an attempt and I gave him two options. Quit the course or come for a retest. The owner of the school (American fella) gave me crap for it. After all those students were paying customers and he didn't care about the rest.

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Edited by: Trevek Feb 21, 10, 08:56 #96

z_darius:

You don't turn around during a test.

Oh, this isn't tests I'm talking about, it's just activities.

As for tests... I don't know how true it is but my Polish colleague, who is heavily involved with running local Cambridge exams (FCE etc), told me Cambridge had to redevise their format for staging the listening exams because of a high number of students recording the test on mobile phones (photo and recording) and then selling it over the net. Two main culprits; Greece and.... oh, maybe you can guess the other one.

z_darius:

All university calendars published by schools I attended in the US and Canada had a chapter on cheating. Because it is nonexistent?

Now, isn't that somethin g to do with covering their backs. I heard about a mother whose son was disciplined for cheating in an exam and she was attempting to sue the school because she claimed he'd never been told he couldn't cheat. A bit like McD's putting 'hot liquid' labels on their coffee cups.

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Feb 21, 10, 18:29 #97

DO

Pretend that you enjoy eating gherkins and cabbage, even after the 1400th time

Show surprise as a guest that the aforementioned foods are on the table

Ask what kind of cabbage it is, even though it's the same as what you have always had

Be careful not to splash yourself with some sauce or some liquid or other at the table

Put a healthy lashing of Maggi and pepper into your broth

DON'T

Show dissatisfaction with your gherkins and cabbage, be an actor

Pretend that you know what is coming next

Imply that you have had that cabbage before

Slurp too much. This is a Japanese thing, not a Western thing

Add any salt. It's likely highly salted as it is.

TrevekThreads: 33 Posts: 2,155 Joined: May 21, 08 ♂	Feb 21, 10, 21:14 #98
Don't point out that Chinese/Mexican/Japanese/Indian cuisine in restaurants across the world doesn't usually come with chopped salad (containing pickled cabbage)

strzygaThreads: 4 Posts: 988 Joined: Apr 30, 08 ♀	Feb 21, 10, 21:29 #99
no! but that's impossible! it's an outrage! No culture can do without chopped salads and especially sauerkraut! Please, stop spreading lies, as somebody might believe you!

TeffleThreads: 28 Posts: 2,105 Joined: Aug 26, 10 ♂	Edited by: Teffle Oct 5, 10, 12:26 #100
Seanus: I think certain Poles want instant solutions and results and this makes them abrupt and offhand I thought it was just me who thought this. Interesting.

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Oct 5, 10, 12:54 #101

Teffle:

I thought it was just me who thought this. Interesting.

Certainly I've noticed it. What context, Seanus? For me it's usually in shops, local govt offices or other public serices (eg hospitals). But I suspect the attitude is a vicious circle of 'I don't expect anything to get done so in order to get it done this side of the grave I will treat you with contempt' <-> 'I am a cog in a Kafkaesque machine - you can bloody well wait - and I will treat you with contempt'. I've seen so many cases where people are so used to getting treated like cr4p by shop assistants they don't bother arguing the toss any more...

(PS above generalisation doesn't apply to the whole public/retail sector - maybe 35% and declining. But there's still a lot of it about)

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Oct 5, 10, 14:13 #102

Bureaucratic procedures for one. They are long and protracted yet people expect instant fixes. Yes, you can expedite things but it costs money. For example, I paid 38PLN (little) to bring my marriage date forward.

It's old people, generally. They start ordering midway through yours. I often wonder about them as they are retired and are going nowhere fast, so what's their hurry?

I heard a classic yesterday which should amuse the resident Poles. My wife got a call from a stuck-up woman who referred to herself as Pani. To my knowledge, you just don't do that and my wife agrees. Well, if titles make them happy, LOL. They need to build strength from inside.

marcinbrowarcinThreads: - Posts: 2 Joined: Oct 8, 10 ♂	Edited by: marcinbrowarcin Oct 8, 10, 18:23 #103
BubbaWoo: dont fart in the lift DO fart in the lift - but maintain full composure while sending a disapproving look to an elderly person. if there is only one other person with you, finish LIKE A BOSS!

jochemczykThreads: 1 Posts: 41 Joined: Nov 27, 11 ♀	Dec 1, 11, 03:43 #104
Dont complain if a Polish person is late when invited to dinner and if they dont show up for a few days ,smile and act like nothing happened

FlaglessPoleThreads: 7 Posts: 1,394 Joined: Aug 19, 10 ♂	Dec 1, 11, 06:10 #105
jochemczyk: Dont complain if a Polish person is late when invited to dinner and if they dont show up for a few days ,smile and act like nothing happened yep just set the plate out on a doormat

f stopThreads: 33 Posts: 2,861 Joined: Dec 9, 09 ♀	Apr 13, 12, 17:55 #106
Here is a pretty ammusing run-down of rumunian customs that apply to Poland as well. I think. http://www.pictures-of-romania.com/Romanian-customs.html

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