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Apr 18, 11, 12:11 #1

Recently I got the following e-mail from an American wtih Polish and Ukrainian roots. I'm not much into pop-rock-techno-rap and all that rot, so I wonder if someone on PF may be able to explain. The only Polish pop-folk group I have run into is Golec uOrkiestra. Is it true that Poles are again foreign-aping more than other countries of the former Soviet bloc? If so, why?

It is my observation that eastern European countries, other than Poland,
are more proud of their traditional folk music. As we troll the internet
for modern music videos from around the world, countries such as
Ukraine, Bulgaria, Serbia, other Balkan nations etc. even use folk
instruments and musical motifs in their modern techno dance songs.
I really love the sound, a nice break from the ever-present Afro **** that infects most modern music. Check out these
Ukrainian videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHVDIP0xGxw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kVS2CLlEo8&fmt=18

MagdalenaThreads: 5 Posts: 1,389 Joined: Aug 15, 07 ♀	Apr 18, 11, 13:47 #2
Polonius3: foreign-aping I hate your patronising tone. Before you start another of your "philosophical" threads, kindly listen to some actual, traditional Polish folk music and tell me how well it would lend itself to "modernisation". Because in my opinion - not very well. South Slavonic folk music is completely different - listen and compare.

alexw68	Edited by: alexw68 Apr 18, 11, 14:11 #3
Polonius3: The only Polish pop-folk group I have run into is Golec uOrkiestra You need to do your homework then. Kapela ze Wsi Warszawa, for starters?

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,787 Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂	Apr 18, 11, 14:34 #4
Magdalena: Because in my opinion - not very well. http://youtu.be/qvOW_RdC_AI http://youtu.be/W-eqNEqq5Dk eh?

MagdalenaThreads: 5 Posts: 1,389 Joined: Aug 15, 07 ♀	Apr 18, 11, 15:17 #5
Ironside: eh? Well OK, maybe I don't have enough musical imagination to see (or rather hear) that Polish folk material could be so treated, even so, I still think that the southern branch of Slavonic folk music is much more "malleable" in this respect ;-)

TrevekThreads: 33 Posts: 2,155 Joined: May 21, 08 ♂	Apr 18, 11, 15:32 #6
Errrm Brathanki http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG8B4DT6ud8 Sw Mikolaj Orkiestra http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiBrETDm8eg Zakopower http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJnpLOuJAG4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRTLZmPV8lI

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Apr 18, 11, 19:15 #7

Thanks all. That's what PF is for to enlighten ther unenlightened. Also I've heard of a group called Trubunie Tutkli. But that would be more folk music than pop-folk. Anyway, I was just trying to answer an e-pal's question.
I my be wrong, but I just don't feel that much pride in Polishness and spontaneous, heartfelt patriotic ardour amongst Poles, except at international matches where they paint up their faces and don funny hats and wave Polish flags.
But that's more of a mass-hysteria herd instinct than true patriotism, innit?

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Apr 18, 11, 19:50 #8

Polonius3:

I my be wrong, but I just don't feel that much pride in Polishness and spontaneous, heartfelt patriotic ardour amongst Poles

You are wrong :) I've witnessed plenty of Polish patriotic pride

Magdalena:

I hate your patronising tone.

Relaaax.. I find the tone quite amusing

Magdalena:

I still think that the southern branch of Slavonic folk music is much more "malleable"

I know what you mean. Our folk music is sharper, not so easy to fuse with pop sounds. Not only Slavic but all southerners in the world have the special talent for music. I believe, it's the good supply of vitamin D during prenatal life and early childhood

But our pop folk is pretty nice as well. Let's take that Janosik from Zakopane :)

TorqThreads: 65 Posts: 4,024 Joined: Apr 10, 09 MEMBER ♂	Apr 18, 11, 20:12 #9
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Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,835 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Apr 18, 11, 22:53 #10
Isn't Balkanesque music rather Turkic sounding? Why should that make it more adaptable to the pop music scene?

QaayThreads: - Posts: 5 Joined: Mar 10, 11 ♂	Apr 19, 11, 10:16 #11
De Press: youtube.com/watch?v=qbzTQrSLv_s youtube.com/watch?v=0GgBLuPZbj8 Check also modern "urban folk" bands Szwagierkolaska RazDwaTrzy Kult

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,835 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Apr 20, 11, 02:20 #12
Thanks for the input. Soem of these I had heard of, others were completely new to me. So now I know they exist. Now the 64-złoty question: how widely are they listened to in today's Poland? Do their fans fit some geographic, age or occupation pattern?

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Apr 20, 11, 17:25 #13
Polonius3: how widely are they listened to in today's Poland? a look at the Polish top twenty will show u that Polish music ain't the most popular music in Poland. everyone will listen to the above, but not everyone will buy it.

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,835 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Apr 20, 11, 18:18 #14
All you pop/rock experts out there...what is at the top of the charts in Połand these days? If there one main central chart or separate niche charts for rock, pop. disco polo, tehcno, reggae (dunno if it still exists), rap, heavy metal, punk, ska, etc.?

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Apr 20, 11, 19:16 #15

Torq:

:-)

Thanks for the Slavic music...
Brathanki are quite good, and maintain the Slavic flavor even with a pop gloss...Very good interplay with guitar, flute & violins, and their vocalists are good singers and cute...

Ciechowski is also quite talented...I will have to check out his material, as he seems to have had quite a prolific career.

It was a treat to hear some modernized Slavic music that leans to pop, yet maintains Slavonic roots and musical signature...The Irish have been quite good at recycling traditional forms into a a more modern hybrid.

Polonius 3 made a good point about the current 'Afican-American' music infecting a wide swath of pop...Unfortunately, African-American music used to be the cream of the crop, what with jazz greats like Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Monk and numerous others, and the pop music, from Motown to Stax (Memphis) was also tops...Unfortunately, 'rap' which is basically a big mouthed egotist spouting a stream of illiterate junk over computer samples, has replaced a once great musical sub-culture.

noreenbThreads: 4 Posts: 1,082 Joined: Apr 22, 09 ♀	Dec 1, 11, 19:15 #16
i like falk music because it gives me energy. I liked Brathanki and a like Zakopower but their latest song heard on radio and deadly sad.

JonnyMThreads: 16 Posts: 4,487 Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂	Dec 1, 11, 20:44 #17
noreenb: I liked Brathanki They were good. I wonder what happened to them? joepilsudski: the current 'Afican-American' music infecting a wide swath of pop You do realise that what we call 'pop' music emerged from a synthesis of African American, Irish and Jewish tradtions?

noreenbThreads: 4 Posts: 1,082 Joined: Apr 22, 09 ♀	Dec 1, 11, 20:47 #18
The vocalist had an accident. Maybe it is one of the reasons?

blackadderThreads: 4 Posts: 403 Joined: Jun 28, 07 ♂	Edited by: blackadder Dec 1, 11, 21:26 #19
Polonius3: Isn't Balkanesque music rather Turkic sounding? Why should that make it more adaptable to the pop music scene? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxs4DP9BaXw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Suz2BLxHiG4&feature=related

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,756 Joined: Jul 3, 08 ♂	Edited by: McCoy Apr 14, 12, 18:13 #20

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