Polish migrants & expats in Poland?

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Feb 19, 11, 14:06 #1

It appears unlikely most the Poles worjking in the British Iselas and elswhere in Erope would suddenly pick up and return home. But if an appreciable number did, how would that affect foreign expats living and working in Poland? The Polish market would b flooded with some if not many with a good commann of English, thereby undermining the monopolistic position of native English speakers. Also skills in other fields (medical, legal, administrative, skilled trades, hospitality sector, etc.) would increase competition in the job market.
Any comments?
This query has been inspired by one PF expat who said he wished all Poles would return home.

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Feb 19, 11, 14:50 #2

Polonius3:

would increase competition in the job market

competition is always a good thing for employers in a situation like that.

But why would anyone want to return to Poland to work in a similar job that they already have in Ireland, uk, etc where they're earning far more money?

I'm certainly not here by choice and if I could've got a job in Ireland, doing what I'm doing now, I'd be earning a hell of a lot more & would've had no reason to leave.

Until the wages in Poland come up to a competitive level with the jobs that are offered to Polish graduates abroad then the "brain-drain" will continue. I feel that it may be some time until that happens. The wage to work ratio in Poland is pretty bad, you can work your hole off and still not earn a wage that's anything special, whereas in Ireland, uk, etc I think that companies offer far more rewarding wages to jobs that require hard work. Here it's expected that you should still work hard even if the pay is crap.

I feel that the problem lies with Polish employers who seem to treat their employees as requirements to make them money rather than valuable assets who can help them make more money....and changing a mindset doesn't happen overnight. If you take the Irish example, the roots of the Celtic Tiger can be traced back to the 1960s when Lemass was Irish PM, however, it wasn't until the 90s that everyone started to have some money in their pockets.

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 57 Posts: 5,478 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER ♂	Edited by: Wroclaw Boy Feb 19, 11, 16:47 #3
Polonius3: some if not many with a good commann of English, thereby undermining the monopolistic position of native English speakers. You mean native English speakers teaching English? dont think many expats would be coming back to Poland with that career in mind. What other monopolistic jobs do the English speakers dominate?

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,835 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Edited by: Polonius3 Feb 19, 11, 17:14 #4
Banking? Managerial posts in Polish branches of other English-speaking firms? Interpreters, translators, advisers to Polish public authorities at different levels. The reason I'm asking is becuase I haven't got the answers. Just wondering. Also, Poles are more by and large more family-minded than British Islanders, so family considerations may influence their decision to return home.

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Feb 19, 11, 22:46 #5

Polonius3:

Banking? Managerial posts in Polish branches of other English-speaking firms? Interpreters, translators, advisers to Polish public authorities at different levels. The reason I'm asking is becuase I haven't got the answers. Just wondering.

Perhaps you should visit Poland: if you did, you'd soon find that all of the posts you mention are very much Polish dominated. If fact, I can't think of a single native speaker in the posts you mention. The native-speaker dominated posts, however, will stay that way, for a very simple reason: we offer skills returning Poles can not offer.

Polonius3Threads: 1,005 Posts: 4,835 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♂	Feb 20, 11, 00:32 #6
OK. Fair enuf. That makes sense.

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