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Edited by: sledz   Oct 4, 06, 00:08   #1
I got ripped off again at Polish construction supply center. Today my ladder was
missing last time it was some lumber before that was my bungee cords. They even
once stole my magnetic business signs. What would they want with my signs? I dont think its Polish beople that are born here but mainly the immigrants.
This doesnt happen to me when I am shopping in other neighborhoods.
mmm    Oct 4, 06, 00:12   #2
I would say - beware whom you deal with (especially in Poland because for some Poles working abroad seem to be much more "honest" if you will). But if you leave stuff unattended you ask for trouble.
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   Oct 4, 06, 02:11   #3
The definition of a thief is a person who would steal if he had the opportunity.. Most people no matter what country they come from would steal if they had an opportunity, more so from a employer who was not paying the correct wages etc..Hmmmmmmmm or an employer who was a a#hole!
sarah    Oct 4, 06, 03:56   #4
I have never experienced this kind of behaviour before ???????
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   Oct 4, 06, 07:22   #5
Someone in liverpool thought the bike would be safe untill he got back



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   Oct 4, 06, 08:14   #6
Ill just have to have someone watch my truck when I work in Polish neighborhoods.
I know every nationality has it thiefs but it seems like the only time I get burned
is when i`m at the Polish supply co.


Quoting: lef, Post #3
more so from a employer who was not paying the correct wages etc..Hmmmmmmmm or an employer who was a a#hole!



I only have 2 employees and their good friends of mine. Thats not the case.
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   Oct 4, 06, 08:17   #7
And where would this be? I know that the PL areas around me are middle- lowerclass areas and the crime is mainly due to hispanics and blacks.
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Edited by: sledz   Oct 4, 06, 08:36   #8
This is in Chicago, IL there are some upscale polish neighborhoods but mostly middle class.
I have alot of Polish friends and there all honest hard working people.

Quoting: FISZ, Post #7
crime is mainly due to hispanics and blacks


Thats exactally how it is here thats whats making me wonder why I only had problems
at this one certain Home Depot.
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   Oct 5, 06, 09:33   #9
I can see your concern. I'm not in Chi town so I guess you'd know more than I.
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   Oct 6, 06, 08:19   #10
I think that certain kind of people in each country steal if they see opportunity.
big sunshine    Dec 25, 06, 02:02   #11
I agree that polish people are hard working and they are very smart, but living in Chicago among them has taught me that they are very deceitful.
Plus I don't appreciate the fact that we're trying to respect their nationality giving them the right to celebrate their holidays the way they would in Poland,whereas they don't respect our culture- most of them speak littlle english if any.How can you live in a foreign,completely strange country without trying to learn the language of a country you decided to settle down in?How difficult it is?And it's sad that they're not willing to learn our language.Instead,they're trying to build their little country inside America,and it's not fair and wrong.
I've got lots of polish friends and they are wonderful people and they agree with me that what lots of polish people do is not respecting this beautiful country we re living in.
guest02    Dec 25, 06, 02:18   #12
The Native Americans could say the same thing about you.
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   Dec 25, 06, 09:16   #13
My girlfriends mother and father moved from Poland over 20 years ago.
She can speak very limited English He speaks none.
Its pretty sad I know more Polish after 6 months than they know English after 20 years.
They are very nice people I just dont get it? Why isolate yourself for that long?
StillConfused    Dec 25, 06, 09:41   #14
I don't think it is a matter of nationality or race. I think it's class in general. If you are in a poor area (and there is an open opportunity), you should almost expect it. This is common were I live anyway. I have also seen this in areas with a lot of kids. I know many Polish, African, and Hispanic people that I would trust without question. I guess what I'm saying is that there are a lot more "bad seeds" in a rotten apple than in a fresh apple
Jasiu    Dec 25, 06, 09:41   #15
Quoting: lef, Post #3
Most people no matter what country they come from would steal if they had an opportunity


rubbish
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   Dec 25, 06, 11:17   #16
Quoting: Jasiu, Post #15
rubbish


no its not rubbish, People steal, its not limited to anyone either.

I work in a hospital, we put our lunches in the refrigerator expecting to see them
when we get to have lunch, come back and someone has either taken a bite out
of a sandwich or stole the whole lunch! Money taken from coats, and out of bags
and whatever else, there have even been coats taken. How ballsy is that?

we all decided to get a small camera to put in our break room and also put up
a sign that this room is being watched, since then it has stopped, but it can
happen again, and we think we know who it is, just catching them in the process!

No it isnt rubbish, it could be your neighbor for all you know.

the one thing that really gets me is when people say how Christian they are
and you watch them do it . that makes me so mad, anyone who says I am
close to god and steals must have got their morals mixed up.

I lock up everything, I pay way to much to just give trust away.
its just the way things are, you have to keep what you have, cause there might
be someone out there who wants what you have and will do anything to get it.
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Edited by: sledz   Dec 25, 06, 11:55   #17
Quoting: Patrycja19, Post #17
when we get to have lunch, come back and someone has either taken a bite out
of a sandwich or stole the whole lunch!


I know that feeling! When I was in H.S. I worked at this factory and everybody would
keep their lunch in one fridge. Everyday someone would be missing a lunch so eventually
we figured out it was this Mexican and confronted him. He denied it ! No no it no me!!
A week later it kept on happening so I went and bought Hersheys candy bar and a
box of Ex-lax, obviously I ate the candy and put the ex-lax in the candy wrapper and
placed it in the fridge.

At the end of the day I checked and candy bar was gone!..... no suprise to me
The Mexican denied it as usuall... but the next day No Mexican! 3 days later he comes in holding his stomach saying hes been sick.

Well he must of ate the whole thing I didnt know at the time that your only supposed
to eat a little piece of exlax at a time he must of been on the toilet for days.
After that day nothing was ever stolen out of that Fridge again!
I kinda felt bad for him but then again how would you feel if someone keeps stealin your lunch?
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   Dec 25, 06, 12:06   #18
Now mark your 2x4s with Polonium.
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   Dec 25, 06, 12:28   #19
na, they would just steal it a help wanted sign scares most of them off
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   Dec 25, 06, 13:24   #20
Quoting: sledz, Post #18
obviously I ate the candy and put the ex-lax in the candy wrapper and
placed it in the fridge.


we all had thought of this, we think making a nice piece of choc cake with
ex lax chips on the top

its unfortunate that people do this, if someone was to say or ask me, hey do you
have some extra, i would willingly share with no re-payment.

its the constant stealing. so far, its stopped, maybe the sign that says you
will be punished, and possibly lose your job worked!
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   Dec 25, 06, 13:26   #21
for a short time anyway, till they think that no one is watching again .

I have to work today, Im buying lunch there. hopefully they have something
worth eating.
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Edited by: opts   Dec 25, 06, 14:45   #22
An article in the Polish Constitution states that it is OK to steal your co-worker’s lunch. In my place of employment, someone stole my co-worker’s lunch.
I live in US. I am the only Pole in the office where I work. I know that I did not take it.



P.S.

Patrycja, your mom looks cute.
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   Dec 25, 06, 15:25   #23
How many people do not pay for train and tram travel (especially in poland)
How many people underestimate there tax and put in false deductions.hmmm
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   Dec 25, 06, 15:38   #24
lef,

Not an excuse.
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   Dec 25, 06, 15:49   #25
lef does have a point.

At one point they stopped employing the ticket inspectors on the buses here in Wroclaw because they were collecting fines from passengers and then keeping the cash.
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   Dec 25, 06, 16:02   #26
What about paying somebody money to have something done (pretty common in poland) ie paying a doctor to receive better treatment/building inspector/police officer all forms of dishonesty.What about a price of a home suddenly increase in price because the owner knowns the buyer is from overseas... dishonest, well I think so.
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   Dec 25, 06, 16:09   #27
lef,

You are right, but we are not all like that.
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   Dec 25, 06, 18:05   #28
absolutely. There are lots of good and honest people in poland like in any other country, in defence of the underhandness in poland, I think the communist system forced people to do dishonest things, and like always it is hard to break the habit.
without being accused of being a troll, some practices of paying doctors for a better service is totally unacceptable and is a form of blackmail and theft.
PiratePL    Dec 25, 06, 19:42   #29
I think the communist system forced people to do dishonest things, and like always it is hard to break the habit.
indeed
some practices of paying doctors for a better service is totally unacceptable and is a form of blackmail and theft.
And this will be changed soon..I hope

Most polish people are honest expecialy when they workin abroad
But beware polish Rome my friend lost 2 bikes from his yard in London.
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   Jan 1, 07, 16:07   #30
I don't think it has to do with any one country. I have found that people steal when they are on drugs or poor and hungry. You have these people everywhere.
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Edited by: Babylon   Jan 1, 07, 16:39   #31
Quoting: big sunshine, Post #11
How can you live in a foreign,completely strange country without trying to learn the language of a country you decided to settle down in?


My father have lived in US for about 18 years and didn't bother to learn english at all. Why he didn't need it at all. He was working for Poles (his very good friend) and only for them. All he need was Polish in work. At home he hadn't English friends only Polish. I was in UK for 8 months and didn't say a word to English-man, well it happens.
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   Jan 1, 07, 17:04   #32
Babylon, there are lots of people like your father in the US. Personally, I can't imagine a life in a foreign country without the language, but it can be done. There are polish employers, doctors, dentists, all types of polish stores, restaurants, travel agencies...you name it.

One can live quite comfortably in their own polish world in the middle of a huge, English speaking city...
pISSED OFF    Jan 2, 07, 14:03   #33
Hmmm do polish people steal alot?

Or

Do people steal alot?

Lets stop talking about you and I and the general populations of the world.

Theft is carried out on a scale most of us cannot or refuse to imagine.

Example. Putins government manufactured explosion over Russia, blamed it on the Chechyens and STOLE THE ELECTION.

Enron, the executives stole billions of dollars from their shareholders.

Boris Beresosky stole billions from investors in his projects during the cow boy 1990's

Where has all the Tsunami aid for the affected areas disappeared too?

Where did all the IMF loans to Russia disappear too.

Infact where's all the f@@king EU developments grants going too?

BAA Systems and the money to the Saudi's (in bribes) this is also theft.

Whilst we condemn the small, the weak and the poor for petty theft.
We are having our rights, our privacy and our wealth rob from us by governments acting as lackeys for big buisness.

And tax that is bloody theft.

Blair announces a new fleet of nucleur subs, who pays us. Do we need or want it? Nope, but the arms companies will recieve our money THEFT.


People believe corruption is wrong, well here is the twist corruption is the only thing that keeps us from being totally locked down in a totalitarian state. It is the only means that and violence for the little man to have a chance to ascend and join the big snakes.
Read your Chomsky .
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   Jan 2, 07, 15:38   #34
I think this question goes for everyone not only polish people there are good people out there and not so good and honest people out there so you can not categorize polish people that are idiots and steal and put the rest of the polish population down becaue some of them steal and the others don't!!!
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   Feb 4, 07, 08:43   #35
I have been teaching Polish to many foreign people for almost 3 yrs. but for the first time had such reaction. I mean, the guy was so scared of stealing here...It's unbelievable...
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   Feb 4, 07, 08:43   #36
Quoting: Maati, Post #39
was so scared of stealing here


I mean of being robbed.
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Edited by: Epicurus   Feb 4, 07, 18:34   #37
Quoting: sledz, Post #1
I got ripped off again at Polish construction supply center. Today my ladder was
missing last time it was some lumber before that was my bungee cords. They even
once stole my magnetic business signs. What would they want with my signs? I dont think its Polish beople that are born here but mainly the immigrants.
This doesnt happen to me when I am shopping in other neighborhoods.


Round and round in a circle we go, where the answer to this question lies nobody knows! Unless.... we just examine it from a dry logical perspective.

So your question is: Do Polish People steal alot?
The question is a bit vague. Are you asking do all Polish people steal alot or just some? What kind of gauge are we going to use to determine "alot"?

Maybe we can rephrase your question? How about:
"Do Polish people have a disproportionately higher or lower rate of thievery per a randomly selected sample."

Now we need to select a gauge. What will we compare this rate to? How about we compare them to a hypothetical group we will call "X".

First, we determine what the rate of thievery is for group X, then we determine what the rate of thievery is for the Polish group and you have your answer.

Practically speaking, the reason Poles have a stereotype of being thieves is probably because a higher proportion of my people do engage in thievery then the group of people you grew up in or are used to living among. Pretty simply stuff. Not that hard.

Does this offend me ? Not if it's true. I wouldn't want you to go around stating that all Poles are thieves, but if you were to be more cautious around Poles with your possessions I would think that a prudent decision.

How prudent? If you engage in simple theft prevention techniques you should have no problem. Use a lock on your ladder, lock your car door, don't leave valuables in plain view..etc.
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Edited by: sledz   Feb 4, 07, 21:51   #38
Ok ma I`ll remember that next time..
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   Feb 4, 07, 22:24   #39
Quoting: pISSED OFF, Post #33
Whilst we condemn the small, the weak and the poor for petty theft.
We are having our rights, our privacy and our wealth rob from us by governments acting as lackeys for big buisness.


OMG someone who sees what I see!!

Amazing!! join Please JOIN!!! you are needed here!

I am so with you, amazing , took the words right out of my mouth.

Thank you !!!!!!
inq    Feb 5, 07, 01:59   #40
Quoting: iwona, Post #41
Isn't it German propaganda/prejudice?

We Polish people have had our share of controversies with the Germans. I believe everything from the past should be put aside and welcome our Nordic brothers and sisters.
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