Do Polish People steal alot?

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Edited by: zetigrek Jul 27, 10, 23:57 #301

wildrover:

So what the these German officers do with the hundreds of tons of furniture then...?

I don't know, maybe they sell it either if they had some value... or ppl put them in fire during cold winters... or they just stay in the place they were.

Mind that those houses often werent empty after resettlement of Jews to ghettos. They were resettled by Poles who were forced to moved out from areas which were thought to become a ghettos (so it was a kind of swap). I'm not deep into history, but what I heard was that all value things were already taken out by Germans ( I don't mean stolen... they rather were legally confiscated by nazi german authorities).

I'm not sure where I found such informations, so a person who knows better the reality of life those days of course may correct me if I'm wrong ;)
It would be really stupid to leave jewellery, money etc to Poles...

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Jul 28, 10, 00:00 #302

wildrover:

One of the reasons Jews are so unwelcome in Poland now is that there are many Poles hoping to inherit a house from their elderly relatives...that they ain,t gonna get if the decendants of the rightfull owners show up...!

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It could be a good deal in the long run. Give them back what they are entitled to, and Poland gets the benefits of Jewish business acumen. It's probably the only way that Crow will ever see Warsaw become the capital of the Slavic world, to be fair. And, as I've said before, Poles aren't exactly world-beaters at business, and Jews... well.. are ;)

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jul 28, 10, 00:01 #303

zetigrek:

I'm not deep into history, but what I heard was that all value things were already taken out by Germans.

I've heard the russian troops even stole the toilets out of the german houses because they didn't had any at home.

You know...Germany wasn't exactly a third world backyard hellhole at that time.
There wasn't much german soldiers could be impressed with as they invaded the East, seriously.
I think most of the missing stuff has gone the Moscow direction....they were notorious for stealing just EVERYTHING what wasn't nailed down (and they tried even the nailed stuff), they were really dirt poor and came from a dirt poor country.

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Jul 28, 10, 00:07 #304

Bratwurst Boy:

I've heard the russian troops even stole the toilets out of the german houses because they didn't had any at home.

I'm mean not gossips but history resources (a movie document or something like that). Its not like my grandma told me that. I only know from my Grandma that Poles have difficulties to gest food during war... so sorry it seems is wasnt like that: wow those germans are so great now we can sell all those jewish vases, radios and carpets and make great money!
Ppl a little bit more of imagination. WHO would buy such things in occupied Poland?

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jul 28, 10, 00:10 #305

zetigrek:

I'm mean not gossips but history resources

I doubt you will find movie footage showing looting Red Army soldiers...sorry...
Free speech and independent media wasn't their forte :(

zetigrek:

wow those germans are so great now we can sell all those jewish vases, radios and carpets and make great money!

Why not?
If people are hungry they try to sell what they can find...
The german officers for sure hadn't this motivation!

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Edited by: zetigrek Jul 28, 10, 00:13 #306

Bratwurst Boy:

You know...Germany wasn't exactly a third world backyard hellhole at that time.

And what do you think why? eh?

Bratwurst Boy:

There wasn't much german soldiers could be impressed with as they invaded the East, seriously.

I mean huge business not little pick-pocketing. I forgot the name of the Nazi commander, one of the against humanity criminal who made a fortune by reselling goods (hidden money, golden tooths etc) taken from dead jews.

Also the Nazi commanders were stealing value art (paintings etc.)

Bratwurst Boy:

If people are hungry they try to sell what they can find...

who you think would buy a vase if dont have a food?! Some nuts?
Still a little bit more imagination than you already have...

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jul 28, 10, 00:16 #307

zetigrek:

And what do you think why? eh?

Germany was seen as the most advanced, most modern country at that time :)
We can't help it! ;)

zetigrek:

(hidden money, golden tooths etc) taken from dead jews.

You mean a concentration camp commander? Of course...they tried to effective squeezing out the dead Jews as much as they could.

But you asked about the homes of said dead Jews, didn't you?

zetigrek:

who you think would buy a vase if dont have a food?! Some nuts?

There are always people who have food to get a valuable vase/picture for cheap money or just a slice of bread.
Those times were high times for these peoples...

You really should study history more!

zetigrek:

Also the Nazi commanders were stealing value art (paintings etc.)

Yeah...that happened.

But I doubt the majority of empty jewish homes in Poland were littered with valuable vases or paintings. The majority of Jews weren't exactly rich either...

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Edited by: zetigrek Jul 28, 10, 00:23 #308

Bratwurst Boy:

Germany was seen as the most advanced, most modern country at that time :)

I think it doesnt matter at all.

Bratwurst Boy:

We can't help it! ;)

Watch out words you use before someone takes you for a neonazi... just my little advice.
You were advanced and rich because of part of my family being deported to be a slave labour... yeah, a pretty good point to be proud about.

Bratwurst Boy:

But you asked about the homes of said dead Jews, didn't you?

said dead?

Bratwurst Boy:

But I doubt the majority of empty jewish homes in Poland were littered with valuable vases or paintings. The majority of Jews weren't exactly rich either...

So if things weren't value... how someone would sell it? Maybe frying pans and rollers. But they are minor things... not really value.

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jul 28, 10, 00:28 #309

zetigrek:

I think it doesnt matter at all.

It matters when you believe german soldiers/officers had nothing better to do than storm polish/jewish huts to steal everything what wasn't nailed down.
This theory becomes much less acceptable if you know where these soldiers/officers came from.

zetigrek:

Watch out words you use before someone takes you for a neonazi...

Being proud of my country means being a neo-nazi??? Okay...then I'm a neo-nazi! :)

zetigrek:

You were advanced and rich because of part of my family being deported to be a slave labour...

Crap, the war was bad for Germany...a war is expensive and the bombings and all that stuff was not exactly furthering the development. The forced laborer where needed because most german men were busy at the fronts.
It was barely a substitute.
Both wars broke Germany's economy and advancement, not supporting it.

Germany began it's ascent to the most developed country in Europe and world wide already soon after the unification in 1871...totally without forced labourers!

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Jul 28, 10, 00:33 #310

Bratwurst Boy:

It matters when you believe german soldiers/officers had nothing better to do than storm polish/jewish huts to steal everything what wasn't nailed down.
This theory becomes much less acceptable if you know where these soldiers/officers came from.

Those soldiers were average humans and they not always were obeying rules. My grandma said that during hard times some of them were giving out food to Poles. So it seems they were able to steal from their own german granary...

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Jul 28, 10, 00:34 #311
zetigrek: So it seems they were able to steal from their own german granary... They should be shot! ;)

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Jul 28, 10, 00:36 #312

I still believe the vast majority of Jewish property that was not valuable was taken by the people around the homes of the Jews that were taken away....

I am not blaming the Poles for doing this....in wartime you do whatever you must to survive...If you had a situation where the Asians for example in the UK were treated as the Jews were and dragged off to be killed , then it would not be long before my fellow countrymen helped themselves to anything worth having from their homes , its normal human greed , and in wartime its a matter of survival...

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Edited by: zetigrek Jul 28, 10, 00:40 #313
Bratwurst Boy: Being proud of my country means being a neo-nazi??? Okay...then I'm a neo-nazi! :) No because of being proud from III Reich... Bratwurst Boy: They should be shot! They were helping ppl. You are really pathetic...

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jul 28, 10, 00:55 #314
zetigrek: They were helping ppl. You are really pathetic... That was humour (smiley!)...and you should help yourself to a dose of wit! zetigrek: No because of being proud from III Reich... Quote me before you bring your doubtful theories. Germany WAS the most advanced and developed country at that time. Not because of the Nazis but because of the Germans! :)

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Edited by: wildrover Jul 28, 10, 01:02 #315

zetigrek:

They were helping ppl. You are really pathetic...

He was just stating a fact....The penalty for theft in the German army was pretty severe...and believe it or not looting was forbidden , at least to the ordainary German soldier...The ss were a law unto themselves , and were the only ones able to organise the mass looting of valuables from occupied countries....

A lack of transport was a problem for the German army all through the war , and there simply wasn,t the resources for the mass stealing of property by the normal army units....

And can we give up this childish belief that every German who in any way says something positive about Germany during the war years must be a Nazi...It makes about as much sense as saying every Pole is a communist...!

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Jul 28, 10, 01:08 #316
wildrover: And can we give up this childish belief that every German who in any way says something positive about Germany during the war years must be a Nazi Thank you!

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Edited by: zetigrek Jul 28, 10, 01:09 #317
wildrover: The ss were a law unto themselves , and were the only ones able to organise the mass looting of valuables from occupied countries.... ok, I don't know who stolen it... but i try to find out ;) wildrover: It makes about as much sense as saying every Pole is a communist...! lots are.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Jul 28, 10, 01:10 #318
zetigrek: ok, I don't know, and who stolen it... Well..it wasn,t me...honest...!

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Jul 28, 10, 03:17 #319

sledz:

I got ripped off again at Polish construction supply center. Today my ladder was
missing last time it was some lumber before that was my bungee cords. They even
once stole my magnetic business signs. What would they want with my signs? I dont think its Polish beople that are born here but mainly the immigrants.
This doesnt happen to me when I am shopping in other neighborhoods.

Well there's trash in every country, i'm ashamed to hear some Polish people do this. My Polish friend who live at the New Jersey shore said, alot of the Poles that come for summer jobs on the boardwalk in Atlantic City, Wildwood, Ocean City, Seaside Heights and elsewhere steal, walk around at night after work throw spark plugs or something else to break a window and steal GPSes, car radios, or go into a convenient store and take food, like while making hot dogs putting 3 in a bun and paying for one. They don't care because when summer's over they're going back home, us the Poles who have to live here get weird looks and the locals hating us because of euro trash like that. I actually would prefer if none of them came over for summer work anymore.

Pinching PeteThreads: 1 Posts: 1,111 Joined: Feb 23, 08 ♂	Jul 28, 10, 04:19 #320
PennBoy: like while making hot dogs putting 3 in a bun and paying for one. Hawww.. haww.. omg, are you serious?? Let me get this straight.. they actually told you about this? I'm sorry but that's hilarious. If I worked in a quick-e mart and saw that I'd be laughing too hard to even get mad.

tow_stalinThreads: 2 Posts: 72 Joined: Jul 21, 10 ♂	Sep 24, 10, 09:26 #321
hi sledz, what can i say? when poland got into eu and schengen pact many of polish thieves went abroad, and belive me - here in poland we are very pleased with this fact. as a replecament we got more gypsies. luckily our climate is too cold for most of them, and they prefer other countries...

IronsideThreads: 59 Posts: 6,787 Joined: Feb 26, 09 ♂	Edited by: Ironside Sep 25, 10, 01:06 #322
tow_stalin: hi sledz, what can i say? ******** for example!fish-fukk

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Edited by: sledz Sep 25, 10, 08:22 #323

Ironside:

******** for example!fish-fukk

Ironside, a Mod bumped this thread up last night, I was online when it happened!!
You know its a 4 year old thread and I wanted it buried a long time ago!
Ive asked them before to close/delete it and they wont do it??

Cant you see they want us to fight??

who bumped it up,,,Vincent??????

the "my threads" button doesnt create a post, so the Mods cant be trusted around here!

Perfect ending to the thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sep 25, 10, 13:06 #324

sledz:

who bumped it up,,,Vincent??????

There is no reason why myself or any other mod would bump up a thread. In fact it would be impossible without us posting something in it.

sledz:

the "my threads" button doesnt create a post, so the Mods cant be trusted around here!

That is correct the "my threads" button doesn't create a post". As SeanBM explained to you, If you click on "my threads" instead of "latest" in error (they are very close to each other) then you might think that one of your old threads is active again. Of course if you were to post a message in it to complain that a mod has bumped up your old thread, then you would make live again on the main forums.

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Edited by: Wroclaw Sep 25, 10, 15:48 #325

sledz:

Ironside, a Mod bumped this thread up last night, I was online when it happened!!
You know its a 4 year old thread and I wanted it buried a long time ago!
Ive asked them before to close/delete it and they wont do it??

now i'm bumping the thread simply to tell you that the conversation you had on here yesterday was removed, which resulted in the thread dropping back down the list.

if u would like a thread to stay where it is (at the bottom of the page) then use the PM system, if u wish to query it.

u could also use a Feedback thread.

it is possible that someone made a post, which bumped the thread, and a few posts followed. then a mod might have moved the 'bumping post' for some reason. then after your post (yesterday ?) it would look like u bumped the thread.

David_18Threads: 111 Posts: 1,212 Joined: Jan 4, 07 ♂	Sep 25, 10, 15:51 #326
Wroclaw: if u would like a thread to stay where it is (at the bottom of the page) then use the PM system, if u wish to query it. Is this something that should be supported? Isn't that kinda counterproductive for a forum? But i guess that's the little game some of the old folks in this Forum plays ;)

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Sep 25, 10, 16:03 #327
David_18: Is this something that should be supported? Isn't that kinda counterproductive for a forum? my reply was in response to a technical problem rather than anything else.

pawianThreads: 90 Posts: 5,415 Joined: May 30, 08 ♂	Sep 25, 10, 21:34 #328
Once I was hungry, so I stole a chicken from the backyard, broke its neck and ate raw. That was in deep depression times. Please, Americans, forgive me that, because it was an American chicken.

George8600Threads: 20 Posts: 1,114 Joined: Feb 19, 09 ♂	Sep 27, 10, 18:16 #329
pawian: Once I was hungry, so I stole a chicken from the backyard, broke its neck and ate raw. lmao..... hahahahaha I steal music, movies, and software from the internet, or that's what those greedy media corporatists call it, us commoners just call it sharing. :-)

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