Do Polish People steal alot?

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Jul 26, 10, 16:46 #241
dtaylor5632: Land mines and bear traps my friend Nooo can,t do that...it would harm the wild piggies and the two deer that come every day to say hello.... Its not been a problem since i caught them and used up all my rude Polish words on them... I don,t mind em taking a few , i have tons more than i need...they just took the pssss a bit...!

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Jul 26, 10, 17:03 #242

You’re not too bright Varsovian, are you? Despite all the hard effort on your part in your attempt to prove OP right, all you have managed to do is to show us that you have married a step down (if that’s even possible in your case LOL) right into that peasant class thus becoming a part of peasant society yourself.

Wroclaw Boy:

Doctors will never ever turn down a bribe.

Bribery is not a theft, quit offering. Someone who is willing to part with his hard earned money can’t call the other person a thief for accepting it. Perhaps you feel cheated and not getting your money’s worth, simply asking what’s the going rate for any given service might resolve your dilemma instead of trying to guess and try to do it on the cheap. Business is business; giving more will always yield better results.

wildrover – having a vicious dog and letting it lose dose the trick, perhaps an old rifle loaded with rock salt shot? Just a thought.

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Jul 26, 10, 17:23 #243

ShortHairThug:

You’re not too bright Varsovian, are you? Despite all the hard effort on your part in your attempt to prove OP right, all you have managed to do is to show us that you have married a step down (if that’s even possible in your case LOL) right into that peasant class thus becoming a part of peasant society yourself.
Wroclaw Boy:
Doctors will never ever turn down a bribe.

he married who he married- a woman I presume, he lives in Poland, you don't. I believe him, you on the other hand question him. Why?

My example:

my computer broke down, went to authorized dealer (everything looked good), who wanted to charge me 900 PLN, including charge for reinstalling the software, which I left at home. I refused, got home a week ago and after 5 minutes my computer was fixed for free.

That is stealing and taking every opportunity to make money. I will take it up with the company, so such things will not happen again.

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Edited by: ShortHairThug Jul 26, 10, 17:30 #244

aphrodisiac:

you on the other hand question him. Why?

Was I questioning him? Read again, it’s a statement not a question, besides its true. How would you know where I live? Now that’s a question. You know what they say about assuming? Wow another – I’m on a roll.

aphrodisiac:

who wanted to charge me 900 PLN, including charge for reinstalling the software, which I left at home.

Honest business if you ask me, if they didn’t you would accuse them of software piracy.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Jul 26, 10, 17:36 #245
ShortHairThug: Business is business; giving more will always yield better results. Nope....every society has their black sheeps (Germany too) but you should better keep a lid on black market, theft, tax evasions and bribery, not accepting it as normal and "okay"....it's rotting the economy in the long run, just look at Greece!

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Edited by: ShortHairThug Jul 26, 10, 17:44 #246

Bratwurst Boy:

theft, tax evasions and bribery, not accepting it as normal and "okay"

I agree but the only way you’ll ever stop bribery is when people stop trying getting favors and stop offering it. Government agencies can only do so much it’s the people that have to realize it’s not acceptable to offer it. Sadly those that have will always think they are entitled to a fester service and keep offering.

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Edited by: aphrodisiac Jul 26, 10, 17:46 #247

ShortHairThug:

Honest business if you ask me, if they didn’t you would accuse them of software piracy.

what are you talking about? The software was not necessary at all, why would Apple dealership be accused of stealing its own software anyways and why would authorized dealership charge me for a part, which was faulty anyways?

ShortHairThug:

Was I questioning him?

not literally, no there was no question mark, but that was your intention since you clearly doubted his statement.

ShortHairThug:

How would you know where I live?

I assumed that you don't live in Poland, do you?

ShortHairThug:

You know what they say about assuming?

they- like who?

ShortHairThug:

Honest business if you ask me, if they didn’t you would accuse them of software piracy.

if I asked you, but I did not. The part was faulty, therefore should have been fixed for free.
Overcharging is stealing in my books.

effarenThreads: 2 Posts: 2 Joined: Jul 26, 10 ♂	Jul 26, 10, 17:47 #248
certainly not when I stayed there, the Poles where very pleasant people and very hospitable towards me

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Jul 26, 10, 17:47 #249

ShortHairThug:

I agree but the only way you’ll ever stop bribery is when people stop trying getting favors and stop offering it.

First being unlawful should get an "negative" image (with the help of he media), so that people get a bad feeling doing that and second install a sharp, smart agency hunting down black marketeers, tax evaders, bribers everywhere and punish them hard, so that they start to fear doing that.

Together that will help sooner than you think! :)

PS: Just a few days back a second CD full of names with big time tax evaders resurfaced in Germany...they are sh*itting their pants now :)

DannyJThreads: 1 Posts: 253 Joined: Oct 30, 09 ♂	Jul 26, 10, 17:59 #250
dtaylor5632: Yes BEAUTIFUL! each to their own

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Edited by: ShortHairThug Jul 26, 10, 18:14 #251

aphrodisiac:

what are you talking about? The software was not necessary at all

Why the need for it to be reinstalled then? You made it quite clear what was expected of authorized dealer as part of the procedure to fix the problem in your rant.
they- like who?
You know, ASSUME - making an ass-out-of-U-and-me.

aphrodisiac:

The part was faulty, therefore should have been fixed for free.
Overcharging is stealing in my books.

Take it up with the corporation; they have their procedures in place which the authorized dealer has to adhere to. Don’t you know that big part of the profits generated by those corporations are in support not in sales. Why have a fit and a gripe against people who simply follow the procedure and instruction given to them by the corporate. Besides you fixed it yourself so what’s the problem? If you don’t like the quote you have a right to take your business somewhere else or do it yourself, you didn’t pay them good for you but even if you did it would have been out of your own free will so haw is that stealing?; therefore no relation to the topic of this thread.
Overcharging is stealing in my books too but that doesn’t make it a crime when the price is set by a big bad corporation for any given product or service, as long as it’s done through their authorized dealers, you can always do it on the cheap and pay some student to do it for you if you’re not savvy enough to do it yourself.

Bratwurst Boy:

First being unlawful should get an "negative" image (with the help of he media),

Grow up BB; every politician is on the take in one form or another no matter what country they happen to hail from. It’s in no one’s interest to change the way the things are done. This problem had been with us since time in memorial still is, so what makes you think it will be any different in the future or that you and I can do anything about it. When you don’t hear about corruption it’s simply because it’s kept under tight lid.

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Edited by: Wroclaw Boy Jul 26, 10, 18:31 #252

MareGaea:

You should never go and point out previous topics from sb else as I will come back to you, right in your face :)
I remember that sb once started a thread about mushrooms, for example :)

Indeed this forum has become one great big p1ssing contest. Everybody has to be scared, really scared what they post or it will come back to haunt them, if not now but soon and for the rest of their lives.

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Jul 26, 10, 18:33 #253

ShortHairThug:

Why the need for it to be reinstalled then? You made it quite clear what was expected of authorized dealer as part of the procedure to fix the problem in your rant.

according to the dealership in Poland, not according to the dealership in Canada, where it was fixed for free in 5 minutes.

ShortHairThug:

You know, ASSUME - making an ass-out-of-U-and-me.

it is a human trait, everybody assumes:)

ShortHairThug:

Overcharging is stealing in my books too

well, then we agree on something, in this case the Polish dealership wanted to charge me tons of money while the local did not.

ShortHairThug:

Take it up with the corporation

I will for sure. I am not that easily fooled when it comes to service, be it in Poland or Canada.

ShortHairThugThreads: - Posts: 1,377 Joined: May 1, 09 ♂	Jul 26, 10, 18:54 #254
aphrodisiac: I will for sure. I am not that easily fooled when it comes to service, be it in Poland or Canada. Good for you, it’s settled then, now can I have my beer in peace and have one on me as well.

aphrodisiacThreads: 22 Posts: 3,998 Joined: Apr 15, 09 ♀	Jul 26, 10, 18:59 #255
ShortHairThug: now can I have my beer in peace and have one on me as well. absolutely:) thanks Dad;)

MidasThreads: 2 Posts: 788 Joined: Jul 19, 10 ♂	Jul 26, 10, 19:37 #256
Poland isn't a nation of thieves. It has a significant amount of them, for economic reasons, as well as many people who pull of dodgy scams ( be careful with real estate ). But as a whole nation - no.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,959 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Jul 26, 10, 20:50 #257
Midas: Poland isn't a nation of thieves. It has a significant amount of them I see.

PaulinaThreads: 2 Posts: 561 Joined: Jan 31, 08 ♀	Jul 26, 10, 21:11 #258
Midas and his logic LOL

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Jul 26, 10, 21:50 #259
"I think we should ignore him" (sb and their logic, LOL) Midas has a good point. Specific kinds of crime happen, e.g car theft. The Poles were notorious for that back in the day. The Japanese for umbrellas and bicycles. However, it doesn't make either a nation of thieves. I don't imagine there being too much theft here in Poland.

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Jul 26, 10, 21:56 #260
Seanus: The Poles were notorious for that back in the day. Not quite. it was often little mafia rings that took cars.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Jul 26, 10, 21:57 #261
Italian, Russian or Albanian, Wrocław?

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Edited by: Paulina Jul 26, 10, 22:04 #262

Seanus:

"I think we should ignore him"

Meaning: don't treat him seriously. I am going to have a laugh from time to time though :)

Seanus:

(sb and their logic, LOL)

And I thought you'd leave me alone, Seanus :) You just can't help it, can you? Somehow I can stay away from you, but you can't stay away from me :/

Midas:

Poland isn't a nation of thieves.
(...)
But as a whole nation - no.

Yes! Poles are a nation of thieves! Don't be so defensive, Midas :]

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Jul 26, 10, 22:10 #263
Seanus: Italian, Russian or Albanian, certainly Polish, possibly Russian and Ukrainian too. for the most part it's all hearsay. it's what u hear from friends of friends etc.

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Edited by: Seanus Jul 26, 10, 22:13 #264

They were notorious for that amongst Germans and Scots, Wrocław. My wife is just describing a stealing story to me. She believes Poles are awful for this. Also, they are still Poles, Wrocław. Mafia or otherwise. 'The Poles' is a FAR more diverse term than anyone here seems to conceive.

Seanus (I think I should ignore her, meaning no name references which I didn't use. Not meaning 'don't treat anybody seriously or otherwise').

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Jul 26, 10, 22:17 #265

Seanus:

They were notorious for that amongst Germans and Scots, Wrocław. My wife is just describing a stealing story to me. She believes Poles are awful for this. Also, they are still Poles, Wrocław. Mafia or otherwise. 'The Poles' is a FAR more diverse term than anyone here seems to conceive.

sure they were, but in order to bring balance to the conversation in the US a car is stolen every 26 seconds.

PaulinaThreads: 2 Posts: 561 Joined: Jan 31, 08 ♀	Jul 26, 10, 22:20 #266
Seanus: I think I should ignore her, Thank you :) Seanus: meaning no name references And no quoting and no referring to my person in any way - that would be nice too ;) And Kaczyński brothers stole the Moon! A nation of thieves, I tell ya! :D

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Edited by: Seanus Jul 26, 10, 22:22 #267

Aha, come on then. We are off on the deflection course again, so let's have a broader perspective while you are at it. How often does it happen in Outer Mongolia? How about Swaziland? Let's get a rounded perspective and large scale on the go here. I'm interested, does it happen in the Outer Hebrides too?

Seanus (reiterates that he has NEVER quoted anybody since Dec 2007. The Mods will back me up on this. I mean in the traditional way)

THE HITMANThreads: 1 Posts: 416 Joined: Jun 15, 10 ♂	Jul 26, 10, 22:25 #268
Do Polish People steal alot? ............. YES.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Jul 26, 10, 22:27 #269
It's funny. Foreigners have stereotypes about it but Poles come right out with it :) Most Poles I've spoken to seem to think it happens more than it should.

PaulinaThreads: 2 Posts: 561 Joined: Jan 31, 08 ♀	Edited by: Paulina Jul 26, 10, 22:29 #270
Seanus: "I think we should ignore him" This is also quoting, Seanus :) These " " are called quotation marks, you know :) Let's drop this, OK? Let's just avoid each other and everything will be fine :) Poles DO steal a lot. I'm sure Gollum was Polish :O He stole a golden ring!

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