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Aug 6, 07, 06:36 #1

Hello Polish forum users,

I am a exchange stundent right now in Uk, and I would like to ask you the question I mention before, the reason is, I am in class with several people of several countries and among them, few vry nice polish girls

I am half italian half english (living most of my years in italy, and looking more italian that english) and I found very dificult to get into contact with the polish girls, talking about it with a friend of mine, he is from Barcelona, Spain, mention the same, that somethign stand in the head of those girls that avoid him to get closer to them, and he is really in love with one of them

so, could anybody please reply me ??, thansk very much

Wyspianska	Aug 6, 07, 06:41 #2
I dont think so that ur nationality has some meaning! Maybe ure just stupid or ugly o.O

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,898 Joined: Nov 10, 06 ♀	Aug 6, 07, 06:55 #3
Quoting: Wyspianska I dont think so that ur nationality has some meaning! Maybe ure just stupid or ugly o.O Im not sure if you're trying to be amusing or not, but what you just said was quite horrible.

slwkkThreads: 3 Posts: 249 Joined: Mar 31, 07 ♂	Aug 6, 07, 07:05 #4
Quoting: Amathyst Im not sure if you're trying to be amusing or not, but what you just said was quite horrible. I think that she didn't mean that... she just wanted to say that nationality has nothing to do with personality, but her English isn't perfect yet (just like mine) :>

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,898 Joined: Nov 10, 06 ♀	Aug 6, 07, 07:09 #5
I think her English is just fine and implying that a girl isnt interested because someone is possibly stupid or ugly isnt very nice.

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Aug 6, 07, 07:11 #6

I do not spect to be xpecially handsome, but not so ugly neither, I does not go so bad with another girls

my friend really try to get one of them, as i say, he is in love whit her, but my relationship with them is only looking for some good friendship, I had before relathioship with exchange students and it is very hard when the year ends, so, at least somebody really impact me, I am not looking for anything too far

my question is more about what the general people think in poland about us, I know for example that we do not consider french girls so "clean", even I have few friends in france and they do not show up the topic, most of the people in my country think that

before I meet polish people I trend to think that they are good workers but not able to be bosses, that they are not able to get responabilities. And about the girls, that they are "no so dificult" but very tradicional and quite conservative (pleass, this is what the topic say, I am not agree with taht, I do not try to insult or be critic, but if a polish person whould come to study/work in italy, this is the barrier he will found)

in this meaning i ask, i do not have idea what the people think about us, the west-south european mans

thansk very much for the replies

Wyspianska	Aug 6, 07, 07:12 #7
He is abvioulsy stupid if he thinks that for people its important where is he from and that it can be a reason why polish girls like him or not.

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,898 Joined: Nov 10, 06 ♀	Aug 6, 07, 07:18 #8
Quoting: Wyspianska He is abvioulsy stupid if he thinks that for people its important where is he from and that it can be a reason why polish girls like him or not. After reading his last post, I think I have to agree with you honey - as for the comment about French girls pff!

Wyspianska	Aug 6, 07, 07:22 #9
Quoting: Amathyst After reading his last post, I think I have to agree with you honey - as for the comment about French girls pff! ah, its just my instinct, felt it after his first sentence ;)

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Aug 6, 07, 07:29 #10

sorry if I disturb you, but say me if you do not have this kind of topic in your country

If I am mistake please say me

Amathyst, please do not missunderstand me, my english is no so good and I may not express what I realy want to mean

the comment about the french girls, as the comments about polish people, are the "topics you can hear from other people", I know that in case of the french people, those kind of topics are made much bigger due to the rivality that we have as a neighbords

the same i know that not all people in poland drink vodka, or there are no bears in the cities. I know also that west eourpe was shown as the "capitalist of the blood" in poland several years ago (one of the girls in my class say me), but this way of thinkins fortunatly is changing

I was couple of years ago in a trip to poland, I visit krakow, and warsawa, and i have to say that I really like this two cities, again, I was in a programed trip, from one musseum, to another, from one monument to another, so i did not have so much contact with the local people, but i would say that you are a nice people (specially after know the polish collageas in my class, and with the guys I do not have any problem, we go to party togheter, and we laugh a lot of)

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,900 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Aug 6, 07, 07:31 #11
Mediterranean looks are popular all over Europe.

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,898 Joined: Nov 10, 06 ♀	Aug 6, 07, 07:35 #12
Quoting: southern Mediterranean looks are popular all over Europe. Not quite true. Here is a generalisation - English women think that Italians are slimey and sleezy and a bit greasy looking :D

MarciQMThreads: 1 Posts: 7 Joined: Aug 6, 07 ♂	Edited by: MarciQM Aug 6, 07, 07:47 #13
Amathyst, Wyspianska, i do not try to make you angry or disapointing you, i hope we can talk more that ataking eachother (I do not try to offend you at any point )

Wyspianska	Aug 6, 07, 07:49 #14
Quoting: MarciQM Amathyst, Wyspianska, i do not try to make you angry or disapointing you, i hope we can talk more that ataking eachother (at any point I try to offend you) If u think u can offend me over internet, then ure even more stupid as i though:D And there is atack between me and Amathyst. Obvioulsy u dont know how i attack people :)

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,898 Joined: Nov 10, 06 ♀	Aug 6, 07, 07:51 #15
Quoting: Wyspianska And there is atack between me and Amathyst. Obvioulsy u dont know how i attack people :) And there was me thinking we had sorted out our differences :( Oh well back to war then :D

MarciQMThreads: 1 Posts: 7 Joined: Aug 6, 07 ♂	Aug 6, 07, 07:57 #16
ataking eachother, I mean, you againt me, not between both of you Wyspianska, by the way, if say sorry is for you to show up stupidity, maybe I really need to change my ideas, are you a clear/good example of polish girl ?

Wyspianska	Aug 6, 07, 07:58 #17
Quoting: Amathyst Quoting: Wyspianska And there is atack between me and Amathyst. Obvioulsy u dont know how i attack people :) And there was me thinking we had sorted out our differences :( Oh well back to war then :D Haha, sorry hun, i wanted write "there is no attack" just forget the word:D

Wyspianska	Aug 6, 07, 07:59 #18
Quoting: MarciQM are you a clear/good example of polish girl ? No, im not. Im completely unique and different than all ;)

slwkkThreads: 3 Posts: 249 Joined: Mar 31, 07 ♂	Edited by: slwkk Aug 6, 07, 08:00 #19
Quoting: Wyspianska Obvioulsy u dont know how i attack people :) like a chuck norris ? :D

Wyspianska	Aug 6, 07, 08:02 #20
Quoting: slwkk like a chuck norris ? :D Haha, sure! Its me on the video, i only wear chuck's mask ^^

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,900 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Aug 6, 07, 09:01 #21
Quoting: Amathyst Not quite true. I mean the good looking men with mediterranean looks.They are popular indeed.Even nordics etc admit it.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,900 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Aug 6, 07, 09:02 #22
Quoting: Wyspianska Haha, sure! Its me on the video, i only wear chuck's mask ^^ And a tight bra?

Wyspianska	Aug 6, 07, 09:38 #23
Quoting: southern And a tight bra? LOL, yeah, really tight :D It hurts so much ^^

tornado2007Threads: 20 Posts: 3,497 Joined: Jul 11, 07 ♂	Aug 6, 07, 09:56 #24
Quoting: Wyspianska I dont think so that ur nationality has some meaning! Maybe ure just stupid or ugly o.O you took the words right out of my mouth :)

AvJoeUK	Aug 6, 07, 10:05 #25
You cant be half english if your writing is that bad mate. sorry

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,898 Joined: Nov 10, 06 ♀	Aug 6, 07, 10:24 #26
Quoting: AvJoeUK You cant be half english if your writing is that bad mate. sorry He said he lived in Italy most of life, so English is not his native langauge and being half something doesnt automatically mean you speak the language, does it now Mr AJ Quoting: Wyspianska Haha, sorry hun, i wanted write "there is no attack" just forget the word:D Its all good then :)

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Aug 7, 07, 04:06 #27

It is maybe a south-European way of living, but the common of the poeple (expecially years ago, when travel arround europe wasn't so popular), we tren to create topics about the diferent nathionalities, as I put some examples before

and also as I say before, after travel a little arround europe, I was able to see how most of this topics are not truth (at least in big scale), but it was enough that one person from whatever country comes to Italy, to create the topic about them

probably is also influence by political reason, and media (newspapers, tv) are specialist in give a deformed image of expecially the "other way of thinking" countries

I would be very glad if you can confirm me that in Poland (I am not sure if I could generalizate withother east countries) you do not make this "way of describing other nathilonalities on topics"

Amathyst, as you mention, I am half englih by genes, but all my life in Italy (my mother comes with his parents to Italy when she was 3 years old, and they almost always speak in Italian to help her to learnt fast. I only remember my grandparent speaking in english when they discuss, so it is not a easy languaje for me)

thanks again for your tiem

randompalThreads: 7 Posts: 431 Joined: Jul 10, 07 ♂	Aug 7, 07, 06:44 #28
Polish girls think that Spanish and Italian men are just playboys or playboy wanna-bes looking for a quick lay, if you want a brief analysis of conventional wisdoms and stereotypes. And Polish men think that Spanish and Italian men come here to steal our girls...

MarciQMThreads: 1 Posts: 7 Joined: Aug 6, 07 ♂	Aug 7, 07, 08:33 #29
thanks randompal, so, in that way, would you think that a polish girl will avoid to come closer to a italian guy becouse he is italian ?

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Edited by: Tran Anh Aug 7, 07, 18:40 #30

Possibly, those girls you mention are psychologically complicated (which are perfectly normal for young educated Poles now and in the past). And its combination with Polishness make things nearly impossible for non-Polish men to approach (to be a popular stereotype 'Latin lover' without being devastatingly handsome is even more a barrier than a bonus). Trust me, Poles used to adore all things Italians (you will see it all around literatures, architecture and music). But the feelings are increasingly lukewarm due to the fact that the Poles sense their feeling unreciprocated (Italians prefer Russians, and Red ones at that!), and the Polish identity of martyrdom, of tragic suffering (I am quite exxagerating here, sorry) which stand in strong constrast with the 'bon vivant' attitude of male citizens of luckier countries (especially Italy).

If you are one of the 'bon vivant' type as I suspect you to be (which to me are perfectly sound and righteous according to your own circumstances), your chance of an exhilarating relationship with a nice Polish female can only improve if you can 'transcend' both your stereotype and her stereotype. Be Rigidly and 'intransigently' truthful, be empathetic (you know even how strong and beautiful she is, she suffers greatly from bad-image identity), be appreciative of Polish arts and thoughts (which, trust me again, enrichs your life times and times over) and finally, be adamantly masculine! The ideal combination of those is the very key for her heart.

I apologize for my assumption.
Good luck.