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I seem to remember being told that there is a healthy if minor prog community in Poland - is this right?

If so, being a big music head myself and particularly where prog or experimental stuff is concerned, I'd be interested to know about bands etc.
MareGaeaThreads: 45
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Which prog music? Prog house, rock, chill, pop, which?

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)
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Ooops, sorry. There is only one prog. The original: rock.

; )
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By prog you mean progressive rock ? Like Porcupine Tree? Opeth? Dream Theater ?
If so, Riverside is the answer, they are not the only one but probably the most known polish progressive rock band.
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Yeah that's exactly what I'm talking about jwojcie.

I've heard a little Riverside - very good. Anyone else you know of?
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Prog rock is my favourite type of music too. Pink Floyd, Radiohead and so many others shine from Britain but I can imagine Poland producing some real hidden gems. Many Poles are creative and tend to thrive in jazz. I'm not a fan of jazz but when you fuse it with other instruments and styles, you can come up with sth good. Think Dark Side of the Moon, Us and Them, for example. RIP Rick Wright and let's hope Poland produces some cracking bands.
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Seanus:
I'm not a fan of jazz but when you fuse it with other instruments and styles, you can come up with sth good.


I'm not a big fan of progressive rock, but I can listen to Pink Floyd for a while, but the likes of Yes, Y&T and a couple of others usually don't last longer than 5 minutes. As for Pink Floyd, I especially like the very early days, when Syd Barrett was still a member before he went nuts. But I have the same with Fleetwood Mac, who was at its best when Peter Greenbaum was still a member. As for Jazzrock or -funk, I cannot listen to that at all. Not because it's bad stuff, but just out of the sheer "coldness" of the music. I've seen a few Jazz- or Funk-rock bands live and these guys were standing there with an attitude of "oh wow, look at us how good we are and how difficult it is what we are doing - hey look, here's a D#6m9 chord, never heard that one before, didn't ya?" and then -for me- the fun is basically over. In that case I'd rather went to see the Cramps, only the basic 12-bar songs, but with loads more fun, which reflects on the audience. I never went to a live progressive rockband, although I once had tickets for a Pink Floyd-show in Rotterdam, but I couldn't go because I was sick in bed with high fever. That was really too bad as I wanted to see them dearly.

>^..^<

M-G (and the tickets had cost me over 100 Guilders (45 Euros) each, which was very expensive at the time)
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I took the cheaper option and watched The Australian Pink Floyd cover their music. When you were as high as I was at that concert, sth as close as their copies did just fine. It was a very rare thing for me to get high but it was great when the right moment came along :)

Oh, let's stay on track. I checked out Riverside and they had quite a mellow vibe to them. Quite nice! Still, the Floyd will not be toppled :)
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Thanks for the links McCoy - great stuff.

Prog can be very smug alright. Personally I just like the angular wierdness aspect. I hate most jazz so if it's jazzy prog I generally won't listen, although one big exception here is King Crimson who stray into the jazz arena occasionally but I love them.

Re cold music - I know what you mean MareGaea but there is a different coldness to the prog I like - mathematical, unsettling, dissonant etc. The coldness of wanky jazz funk is just instantly forgettable for me - elevator musak.

Must check out those bands then!
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i haven't a clue what prog rock is. unless it's another way of saying 70's style music, which is what you guys seem to be referring to when u mention early pink floyd, fleetwood mac etc.
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Prog Rock to me is early Rush, Yes, Genesis.

Dream Theator and that ilk are not prog rock.
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I just chucked in a Chilly Peppers (that i used to snowboard to) CD and am listening to this:



Could this be considered prog rock?
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lowfunk99:
Prog Rock to me is early Rush


How early is "early"? A lot of their really early stuff was Led Zeppelin-style hard rock, definitely not prog.

I'm sure it's really unfashionable to say this, but I could listen to the sound of a Hammond organ all day long. Come to think of it, admitting to liking Prog rock is probably even more unfashionable.

Oh well. There goes MY cool and stylish man-about-town image... lmao... :D


lowfunk99:
Dream Theator and that ilk are not prog rock.


Agreed.

AOR... ugh! :D
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Wroclaw Boy:
Could this be considered prog rock?

That Chad dude is one talented drummer just watched the whole tune properly.
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if u like rush then listen to budgie. same high pitched vocal.

parents and breadfan will give u an idea of budgie.

so far as Polish bands go. ocean
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Wroclaw:
i haven't a clue what prog rock is


It's a loose term in fairness. Pink Floyd were arguably the best known - but they would definitely be on the commercial side, great though they were. Floyd, ELP, Yes, Genesis were the big guns. The likes of King Crimson, Van der Graaf Generator, Camel were more cultish.

If the songs are long, have lofty concepts, flirt with strange instrumentation, feature virtuoso musicianship, have wierd time signatures, aren't that hummable and don't have many female fans - it's probably prog.

These days it just mean any wierd experimental rock that isn't metal I suppose.
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What the hell would you old dudes call this? My man JZ rockin it.



I'm not exactly young anymore.
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Teffle:
Floyd, ELP, Yes, Genesis were the big guns. The likes of King Crimson, Van der Graaf Generator, Camel


interesting. i've seen all these bands (and most of the others in the thread)

what bothers me is that my friends and i never said that we were going to see a progressive rock band. we always went to see a rock band.

prog rock seems to be a label stuck on various weed smoking bands from the 70's

listen to c'mon, bananas or spunk rock by man. but make sure they are the early versions (74ish)
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Teffle:
Polish "prog" music?


Wroclaw:
if u like rush then listen to budgie. same high pitched vocal.

parents and breadfan will give u an idea of budgie.


lol

;)
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Teffle:

If so, being a big music head myself and particularly where prog or experimental stuff is concerned, I'd be interested to know about bands etc.


well I listen mainly electronioc stuff so I'm not sure what progressive rock is...

Maybe this:


Wroclaw Boy:
Wroclaw Boy


yeah! that's the future ;)
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I can only think of the Silesian Blues Band and Collage straight up - Not popular any more really, mores's the pity.

Poland needs a Steve Hillage.

Concert venues have been killed off for the likes of me in Poland becasue you cant drink - the Spodek for example in Katowice, runs Poland's biggest "blues" festival - but no beer is permitted.

It's a joke.

And yes mods - that is ON TOPIC - even for you people in the USA who dont value the importance of beer (not having anything drinkable) Lol

PS Fleetwood Mac were not prog rock - they were bluesmen.
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Maybe not in the mass market beers. The state I live in has many brew pubs that make beer with the best of them.
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This is probably the very first prog rock/heavy metal song ever made:

Macabre - Be Forwarned (1966)



Later they changed their name to Pentagram.

Here is some more psychedelics (after all, that's where prog is originating from)

The Mystic Tide from NYC with Frustration:



Running through the night:



And of course Mystery Ship:



All these guys were at least 7 years ahead of their prog/heavy time :)

PS: if you want to have them, I have all of these mp3's, except Running through the night.

>^..^<

M-G (few of my favourites)
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Nice stuff MareGaea!
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Here are some of the Polish Prog bands I know.
This list should get you started for some good prog - some neo-prog, some pink floyd-ish...all good. Just whatever music interests you but it is a good list to start with.

  • Acute Mind "Acute Mind"

  • After "Hideout"

  • Aibion "Survival Games"

  • Collage "Moonshine"

  • Crystal Lake "Safe"

  • Dianoya "Obscurity Divine"

  • Disperse "Journey Through The Hidden Gardens"

  • Grendel "The Helpless"

  • Indukti - "Idmen"

  • Kayanis - "Synesthesis", "Whre Abandoned Pelicans Die", "Machines & Dreams"

  • Millenium - "Exist", "Deja Vu", "Reincarnations"

  • Lunatic Soul (Riverside Solo Project) - "Lunatic Soul"

  • Moonrise - "The Lights Of A Distant Bay", "Soul's Inner Pendulum"

  • Osada Vida - "Uninvited Dreams"

  • Quidam = "Quidam"

  • Riverside - all albums

  • Satellite - "Evening Games","A Street Between Sunrise & Sunset"

  • Votum - "Time Must Have a Stop"
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Thanks for that Stormzealot

Teffle:
a healthy if minor prog community in Poland


Maybe not so minor it would seem!


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