3 reasons why you hate Poland.

DekameronThreads: 1 Posts: 289 Joined: Sep 11, 08 ♂	Oct 8, 08, 11:23 #1
Well ?

dnzThreads: 25 Posts: 806 Joined: Dec 2, 07 ♂	Oct 8, 08, 11:44 #2
Hate is a very strong word but.. Bureaucracy The fact that travelling from city to another takes so long. The food. There are more than 3 things I like about it hence the reason i've stayed.

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Oct 8, 08, 12:01 #3

I had some vitamins sent to me from the U.S. My partner paid the U.S. post office $48. for the shipping costs, which I reimbursed. It was suppossed to take 8-10 days, that meant Sept. 30 was the arrival date. Dig this! Here we are the 8th of pazdziernik. I got a notice from the Poczta that a package was there. I went showed my passport and then had to pay 130 zloty in addition-- EXTRA to get the package somekind of "Tranzyt Celny"! Do you think if I had told them I didn't want to pay it, they would of sent / returned it to the U.S.? I paid more than the contents in the box. Now I am beginning to understand why Poland ranks at the bottom of the heap. Excuse me I need to get my coal burner stoked up.

dnzThreads: 25 Posts: 806 Joined: Dec 2, 07 ♂	Oct 8, 08, 12:20 #4
The Polish postal system is actually a joke, They never try to deliver parcels or letters instead you have to go to your nearest post office to collect it, Now that is pure laziness considering the cost of actually sending things.

MagdalenaThreads: 5 Posts: 1,365 Joined: Aug 15, 07 ♀	Oct 8, 08, 14:31 #5
dnz: or letters ??? They don't deliver your letters??? BTW, my local Post Office here in London never delivers my parcels either; I always find the "Sorry you were out" card in my letterbox - even when I hadn't budged from home all day.

LondonChickThreads: 43 Posts: 1,261 Joined: Nov 19, 07 ♀	Oct 8, 08, 14:34 #6
Magdalena: my local Post Office here in London never delivers my parcels either You are lucky to have a local post office... mine got closed down, and now I have a 40 min round-trip to the nearest one :(

MagdalenaThreads: 5 Posts: 1,365 Joined: Aug 15, 07 ♀	Oct 8, 08, 14:36 #7
LondonChick: local post office Well - local... That's what it's called, you see, it being the nearest one. It's thankfully not that far away, but I definitely need to take the bus to get there. And they closed down my lovely friendly post office which was a stone's throw away... :-(

DaisyThreads: 16 Posts: 2,172 Joined: Apr 28, 07 ♀	Oct 8, 08, 14:36 #8
Magdalena: I always find the "Sorry you were out" card in my letterbox - even when I hadn't budged from home all day. Same here, or I get post for someone in the next street and my post goes elsewhere

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Oct 8, 08, 14:41 #9

Magdalena:

I always find the "Sorry you were out" card in my letterbox - even when I hadn't budged from home all day.

"Sorry you were out'? Ohh, that's so sweet. In Poland the notice only informes you that you have to pick up the letter at the post office.

As for Poczta Polska, well it inherited a very inefficient structure from it's communist predecessor and I doubt that they will make it once the monopoly will end in few years time.

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Edited by: Magdalena Oct 8, 08, 14:47 #10

Matyjasz:

Ohh, that's so sweet.

I see nothing sweet in being told I wasn't home when I was, and having to wait 24 hours to travel quite a distance, wait in line, and finally get my hands on my parcel. Believe me, I am Polish and have spent most of my life in Poland, and I see no difference either way, except that the British authorities seem absolutely hell-bent on getting rid of their post offices altogether.

Speaking of which - in Poland, I never had my letters "delivered" in the following manner: quite simply [i]thrown[i] on the ground outside the house where I live! The house consists of a number of flats, and the letterboxes are outside as well. Seems the postman was too lazy, or maybe tired, to fit the letters through the appropriate slots - or maybe couldn't read - so just threw them by the front door, rain or shine. Thankfully, whoever it was has stopped coming by (I complained formally). I know British postal services used to be top-notch and I wonder what the heck happened, it seems someone really wishes it this way.

Foreigner4Threads: 21 Posts: 1,747 Joined: Nov 18, 07 ♂	Edited by: Foreigner4 Oct 8, 08, 14:49 #11
the keys here never fit the locks they were designed for the keys here never fit the locks they were designed for the keys here never fit the locks they were designed for oh you just have to jiggle it up and then down or try pressing-faaaaaaaaack off! other than that, it's lovely here.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Oct 8, 08, 14:53 #12
The complaining The stubbornness Provincialism (narrow-mindedness)

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Oct 8, 08, 15:00 #13

oh hell... don't get me started....

1. The fact that parking restriction signs are very well hidden (like facing the wrong way on a one way street with no road markings) then you get a clamp!
2. The fact that to do anything you have to jump through hoops, the right hoops, in the right order... or start all over again..
3. That I work to the end of the month then have to wait until 20th of the following month to get paid! (turns out the 'job' I was given in a private school is actually a contractor 'job')
4. That everything is so bloody expensive! I have to have 2 jobs, working 12 hours/day just to cover the basics
5. The beggars, ok, we get them everywhere, but these ones even walking around inside KFC asking for money/food and the staff do nothing. Don't misunderstand me, I'm happy to give to the charities that help the needy and have done a lot of charity work, but the number of people asking for money in Poland is unbelievable... and many of them quite clearly not needy! (i.e. perfectly clean, presse clothes, new shoes and very fat in one case)
6. The leaftlets... my goodness.. try working through krakow on a summer's day and see how many times you have to dodge leaflets
7. The roads! (it needs no more explanation)

OK, so let's be fair and give a brief mention to all the things I do like

1. The food (contrary to somebody else's comments)
2. The culture. Yes, there is some culture here and I find it interesting
3. The hospitality shown by the Poles. I have always been made to feel welcome everywhere - almost everybody is friendly and most are very helpful
4. The girls... ok, I won't be shy, Polish women are beautiful and it brightens the day to see a beautiful women with a wonderful smile.
5. The fact that there is so much work for a native speaker English teacher, even if the pay is poor and I have no hours left in the day to do it.

oh dear... the cons list is longer than the pros list.... but I'm just grumpy tonight maybe :p

enjoy!

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Oct 8, 08, 15:04 #14
I liked the comment about waiting for the wages. It takes forever for them to get their act together on that one. Yeah, u were spot on tonykenny

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,891 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Oct 8, 08, 15:07 #15
1.PKP.

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Oct 8, 08, 15:10 #16

Magdalena:

I see nothing sweet in being told I wasn't home when I was, and having to wait 24 hours to travel quite a distance, wait in line, and finally get my hands on my parcel. Believe me, I am Polish and have spent most of my life in Poland, and I see no difference either way, except that the British authorities seem absolutely hell-bent on getting rid of their post offices altogether.

I understand your frustration. Nevertheless, I stand by what I wrote. :)

As for my list:

1. January, February, March - I love Polish weather. I like it that we actually have four seasons, but those three months are too much for me. I really wouldn't mind if spring started, lets say, in February.

2. Complaining, although to be fair, it is slowly changing.

3. Talking but not acting. That is what really drives me mad. Alas, I have to say that I'm also guilty of that trait.

MagdalenaThreads: 5 Posts: 1,365 Joined: Aug 15, 07 ♀	Oct 8, 08, 15:43 #17
As for me, I have come to love and respect Poland a lot more since moving abroad. Not that there is anything inherently wrong with other countries, but out of all the idiocies of the world I most prefer the idiocies I grew up with. Amen :-)

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,340 Joined: Feb 20, 07 ♂	Oct 8, 08, 15:49 #18
The only things I ever hated in my time in Warsaw were the plumbing in my flat, the residents committee in my aparment block and the peacocks in the park that atatcked me not once but twice. I liked all the other things as long as I avoided fearsome old ladies and stong wodka.

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07 ♂	Edited by: Filios1 Oct 8, 08, 16:00 #19
tonykenny: oh dear... the cons list is longer than the pros list.... but I'm just grumpy tonight maybe :p Why don't you just get on the next plane that leaves Poland then and do us all a favour. Dekameron: 3 reasons why do you hate Poland. If there were any doubts from us Poles that you were a swine, I think this idiotic topic itself answers all our questions.

mafketisThreads: 15 Posts: 1,830 Joined: Mar 31, 08 ♂	Edited by: mafketis Oct 8, 08, 16:46 #20
Why is the name of this thread phrased so negatively? No way am I participating in it beyond the following comment: Yes, there are things I don't like in Poland but I certainly don't hate the place (I certainly wouldn't live here if I did). I'll decline to comment anymore on this thread. I might contribute to a thread devoted to pet peeves but not one that implies that I hate Poland.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Oct 8, 08, 17:07 #21
Well Filios, maybe he just sees more cons than pros. Some do. U can't get on his back for that.

noimmigration	Oct 8, 08, 17:23 #22
I hate the polish because they are beneath me. I hate poland because polish culture is inferior to western culture.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Oct 8, 08, 17:26 #23
So, u r a fan of French and German culture perhaps, noimmi? Inferior? In what way?

LondonChickThreads: 43 Posts: 1,261 Joined: Nov 19, 07 ♀	Oct 8, 08, 17:28 #24
noimmigration: I hate the polish because they are beneath me. I hate poland because polish culture is inferior to western culture. Copernicus, Chopin, Marie Curie... shall I go on? No Immi, you really have surpassed yourself this time :D

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Oct 8, 08, 17:43 #25

noimmigration:

noimmigration

How did you get out?!

noimmigration:

I hate the polish because they are beneath me. I hate poland because polish culture is inferior to western culture.

I doubt you actually "hate" them. Hate is a very strong emotion and I seriously doubt you feel that at all for Poland or for Polish people. Hate is reserved for dictators and murderers and rapists (for example).

You may dislike Polish people and you may even dislike an entire nation but perhaps you'd like to provide an in depth reasoning as to why? Never mind saying they are toilet cleaners or any of that other nonsense you come out with. If you have a legitimate dislike of all things Polish then please explain it fully, without swearing, without silly pictures and without blaming them for all that is wrong with this country (actually it's the government that's wrong with this country and not the people living here).

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Edited by: SeanBM Oct 8, 08, 17:54 #26
3 reasons why do you hate Poland. Another classic example of a thread that will never end. It is a bit vague but hey, who am I to stand in the way of someone who hates a country and I don't mean "dislike" I mean detest. PolskaDoll: Hate is reserved for dictators and murderers and rapists Maybe he was dictated to, murdered and raped by a Pole?

osiolThreads: 59 Posts: 4,714 Joined: Jul 25, 07 ♂	Oct 8, 08, 18:02 #27
SeanBM: Another classic example of a thread that will never end. Even if I put my hand up now and demand: STOP THIS NONSENSE ? Probably not.

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Edited by: Filios1 Oct 8, 08, 18:37 #28

noimmigration:

I hate the polish because they are beneath me. I hate poland because polish culture is inferior to western culture.

You vile, disgusting man. I had hoped a bus maybe ran you over so you would simply go away from here. Please, I want you to come pay us Poles a visit and say the things you have the "guts" to say here.

Like I said, negative titles, attract negative and disgusting comments about Poland. Why are threads like these even allowed to exist? I think the liberal moderators are for filth like no-immigration, rather than trying to make this a forum that promotes Poland. It surely needs to be cleaned up a bit around here.

Arise_St_GeorgeThreads: 15 Posts: 572 Joined: Mar 8, 08 ♂	Oct 8, 08, 18:58 #29
They made it to Euro 2008 and we didn't!

LAGirlThreads: 13 Posts: 598 Joined: Apr 11, 08 ♀	Oct 8, 08, 19:41 #30
wow so much negativity well I wouldnt want to live in Poland Id want to visit the postal system sounds rediculus and lazy.to non immagration you sound like a God Darn Nazi get off this forum then. I think Poles are very strong smart and some are talented people. I love chopins music by the way.

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