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The Role of Vampires in Slavic Paganism?

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EM_WaveThreads: 20 Posts: 513 Joined: Nov 11, 11 ♂ [Suspended]	Edited by: EM_Wave Nov 23, 11, 04:33 #1
I find it interesting how the modern vampires of Hollywood were largely inspired by the vampires of Slavic Paganism. I was wondering what are some good sources for finding out as much as possible about vampires in Slavic Paganism?

Angel-eyes	Nov 23, 11, 04:38 #2
Christopher Lee doesnt look slavic at all.

EM_WaveThreads: 20 Posts: 513 Joined: Nov 11, 11 ♂ [Suspended]	Nov 23, 11, 04:40 #3
Angel-eyes: Christopher Lee doesnt look slavic at all. Bela Lugosi does though. :-)

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Edited by: Natasa Nov 23, 11, 08:50 #4

Vampire is the only Serbian word accepted by this world (as far as our linguists can be trusted). And Vamp look ;))

We didn't have witches like the central north and west of Europe, but we had few vampires. One according to the legend lived more than 200 years and was attacking people in the woods, close to the mills. His name was Sava Savanovic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sava_Savanović

stop the earth i want to get off

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Nov 23, 11, 13:29 #5
Natasa: His name was Sava Savanovic Is he related to Crow by any chance? :-)

blackadderThreads: 4 Posts: 403 Joined: Jun 28, 07 ♂	Nov 23, 11, 18:02 #6
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jure_Grando actually the first classical vampire to be mentioned in documented records was infamous croat Jure Grando,he died in 1656,70 years earlier than that serbian undead guy Sava...

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Edited by: boletus Nov 23, 11, 18:50 #7

How about countess Elizabeth Báthory (1560 – 1614) , the niece of the Hungarian noble Stefan Báthory, King of Poland and Duke of Transylvania? The so-called "Blood Countess", "Blood Queen", the most prolific serial killer?
So it must be something in the air, not in the Slavic blood. :-)

She and four collaborators were accused of torturing and killing hundreds of girls, with one witness attributing to them over 650 victims, though the number for which they were convicted was 80. Elizabeth herself was neither tried nor convicted. In 1610, however, she was imprisoned in the Csejte Castle, now in Slovakia and known as Čachtice, where she remained bricked in a set of rooms until her death four years later.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Báthory

pawianThreads: 90 Posts: 5,415 Joined: May 30, 08 ♂	Nov 23, 11, 20:27 #8
EM_Wave: I was wondering what are some good sources for finding out as much as possible about vampires in Slavic Paganism? Polish vampires were eradicated in 13th century.

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Edited by: southern Nov 23, 11, 21:37 #9

Natasa:

Vampire is the only Serbian word accepted by this world

This seems to have a basis.

''The English term was derived (possibly via French vampyre) from the German Vampir, in turn derived in the early 18th century from the Serbian вампир/vampir,[15][16][17][18][19] when Arnold Paole, a purported vampire in Serbia was described during the time Serbia was incorporated into the Austrian Empire.''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire

Another serbian vampire stunning the austrian authorities.They had every reason to return the area to Turkey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Plogojowitz

teflcatThreads: 6 Posts: 1,076 Joined: May 29, 11 ♂	Nov 23, 11, 22:02 #10
pawian: Polish vampires were eradicated in 13th century. What about ZUS?

WroclawThreads: 77 Posts: 7,404 Joined: Apr 1, 06 ♂ [Moderator]	Nov 23, 11, 23:10 #11
teflcat: What about ZUS? they only suck you dry during daylight hours

Peter Cracow

Nov 27, 11, 20:37 #12

The : wapierz (songs like vonpiedge), apierz, apirz, upior, upir comes from pre-Christian times.
Vcontemporary form "vampire" comes from Serbian, but creatures itselves comes from old pan-Slavic believes. Polish and other old formsampire derived from not burnt (family duty) body of husband/father and obviously was very revengeful towards his family. He loved to rape his ex and (what a surprise) his daughters. Slavish, what a nation!
The best times for vampires begins after Christianisation as Christians restricted body burnings. How do we know it? Western Europe used to know vampires and upirs (but under other names) from early Middleage thanks to (what a surprise) export of Slavish babysiters.

Peter Cracow

Nov 27, 11, 20:45 #13

Sorry, again:
The contemporary form "vampire" comes from Serbian, but creatures itselves comes from old pan-Slavic believes. Polish and other old
terms: wapierz (songs like vonpiedge), apierz, apirz, upior, upir comes from pre-Christian times.
Vampire derived from not burnt (family duty) body of husband/father and obviously was very revengeful towards his family. He loved to rape his ex and (what a surprise) his daughters. Slavish, what a nation!
The best times for vampires begins after Christianisation as Christians restricted body burnings. How do we know it! Western Europe used to know vampires and upirs (but under other names) from early Middleage thanks to (what a surprise) export of Slavish babysiters.

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Nov 28, 11, 19:24 #14

There is old dispute (more than 100 years)about origin of word Vampire.Candidates are french,german,lithuanian,turkish,greek,roman,romanian,bulgarian,croati an,serbian,bosnian,russian(Novgorod) etc.We cannot discuss about matter that is disputed by scientist.
First mention about bloodsucking human creatures was in ancient Babylon.

My grandmother still calls them Strigon(male vampire) or Striga(female vampire),I think word derives from latin or greek by the looks of it.Interesting how old people are so superstitious,it's not rare to see garlic on the porch in Croatian countryside ''for protection''.Oh yeah,my granny thinks it's quite laughable how Hollywood presents vampires as beautiful and sexy(True blood,Twilight,Interview wit a vampire ect...),she says they are pale,ugly,smelly and dirty,like corpse risen from the grave,they attack cows,chicken,virgins(that explains a lot)more like old school vampire movie ''Nosferatu'' with Max Shreck.

So,what Polish grannies say about that matter?

NatasaThreads: 7 Posts: 2,611 Joined: Jun 6, 10 MEMBER ♀	Nov 28, 11, 20:55 #15
Word is Serbian. Or Croatian, those are after all same languages. stop the earth i want to get off

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