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 Jun 12, 11, 00:52    #241
They say Cracowers are very uptight, and we are back on topic. This must, however, be a stereotype since Pawian proves that what they say about Cracowers in the second place is untrue.

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Edited by: Bzibzioh  Jun 12, 11, 00:59    #242
Antek_Stalich:
about Cracowers in the second place

What do you mean by Krakovians (your term sounds awful) in the second place?
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Edited by: Antek_Stalich  Jun 12, 11, 01:16    #243
Antek_Stalich:
They say Cracowers are very uptight, and we are back on topic.

Could you read whole posts, please?

Antek_Stalich:
This must, however, be a stereotype since Pawian proves that what they say about Cracowers in the second place is untrue.


Warsaw, Posnan, Cracow, Berlin, London. Warsawer, Posnaner, Cracower, Berliner, Londoner.
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 Jun 12, 11, 05:02    #244
it's Cracovian. and Warsovian. also Varsovian.
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 Jun 12, 11, 06:22    #245
actually, on second thought, Bz is right, Krakovian is correct, too
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 Jun 12, 11, 06:59    #246
Why are C's and K's transposable when spelling the name of that city?
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 Jun 12, 11, 08:57    #247
Whoever prefers the names of inhabitants of Polish cities derived from Latin roots, he or she is free to do that. I'll stick with the names derived from English city names. However, if you like the Latin names, that would be "Cracovian" since Kraków is Cracovia in Latin, same as Kalisz is Calisia.

Back on topic, what do you think about stereotypes saying that Cracowers are more uptight than Warsawers are, Posnaners have their specific sense of humour, and the people of TriCity are generaly easy-going?

Discuss.
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 Jun 12, 11, 17:49    #248
It's like Korea and Corea :)

I find that Poles tend to be most uptight in administrative centres where they can't be natural but have to adopt anal behaviour. There is a certain convention involved there. A bit like the Japanese ramen restaurant I was at in Kitakyushu. Everyone was frowning quite visibly and tense. My then GF, Mayumi, told me that it is part of the feel of the place, they do it on purpose. Poles seem to be the same when waiting for documents or stamps.
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 Jun 12, 11, 17:59    #249
Antek_Stalich:
I'll stick with the names derived from English city names.

I'm not an expert but "Cracower" sounds German to me. Too German infact. Cracovian or Krakovian are more English.

Antek_Stalich:
what do you think about stereotypes saying that Cracowers are more uptight than Warsawers are

I don't think that such stereotype exist. Krakovians are more conservative, Varsovians bit more cosmopolitan and that's all.
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 Jun 12, 11, 18:02    #250
Bzibzioh:
I'm not an expert but "Cracower" sounds German to me.

that would be Krakauer, wouldn't it?
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Edited by: Antek_Stalich  Jun 12, 11, 18:13    #251
Seanus:
It's like Korea and Corea :)

Come on, Seanus! Korea was not discovered and described in the Middle Ages ;-)

Besides, where was the letter K introduced to the Latin alphabet?
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 Jun 12, 11, 18:44    #252
Yup, another Pole who cannot ask a direct question in AS ;) ;) Still time to edit :)

I think a lot of Poles are indifferent to the extent to which they cannot really be uptight. That's one thing I've noticed in different places.
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 Jun 12, 11, 18:45    #253
strzyga:
that would be Krakauer, wouldn't it?

Sounds similar written either way.
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 Jun 12, 11, 18:56    #254
Bzibzioh:
Sounds similar written either way.

Which does not in the least change the fact the English name for Kraków is Cracow.
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 Jun 12, 11, 19:05    #255
Let's not get uptight here as Brits would say Cracov and Americans Cracow (ow like they've been hurt, like they say Moscow).

Back to the central topic, please.
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 Jun 12, 11, 20:44    #256
This is well off topic, guys. I'm watching uptight Poles on a Polish programme. It's quite funny.
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Edited by: Antek_Stalich  Jun 12, 11, 20:47    #257
No, talking about stereotypes related to uptight-ness (sorry!) of Poles from different part of Poland and of different countries of the world is certainly on topic, Seanus.
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 Jun 12, 11, 21:01    #258
Antek_Stalich:
This is of course a stereotype because people of TriCity are perceived as the most laid out Poles all over the country.

and by laid out you mean laid back...

that's the beauty of stereotypes, they don't apply to everyone, they don't even have to apply to most, and everyone is free to hold on to their own.

frankly, I don't see the Poles as uptight, per se. And I know many more Poles than just my husband, to dispel the assumptions. I think Poles are really fun, just very insecure and extremely given to self-defensiveness. I believe it comes from the history of the country, when the Polish people found themselves on the defensive much more frequently than on the offensive, and had to obsessively defend their language, culture, and traditions, even if it meant going "underground." Xenophobia is a self-defense mechanism. Also the fact that they see other nationalities that are more self-assured as naive and uncultured. I also see that the acceptable standards of politeness are lower than in some other countries, but perhaps as more people travel, they'll notice that being friendly does not mean compromising your position.
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 Jun 13, 11, 08:40    #259
ItsAllAboutME:
and by laid out you mean laid back...

Of course! Bear in mind English is only my third language.
ItsAllAboutME:
And I know many more Poles than just my husband, to dispel the assumptions.

Are sure you are talking about the Poland's Poles?


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