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Whom do the Polish people hate more: Germans or Russians?

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Feb 19, 08, 11:35 #391

MareGaea wrote:

Maxxx Payne wrote:
the biggest pussies of WW II
1) Sweden
2) Sweden
3) Sweden

How about the Swiss - despite the fact that there were German plans to invade the country they still kept on delivering weapons to Germany until the very end. Maybe it was just because of the threat of invasion...

M-G

Could be, I dont know much about Swiss. Switzerland is en easy country to defend, a lot of mountains etc. and every male is obligated to own a rifle so it would have been difficult for Germany to invade it. So Swiss were not obligated to co-operate in that sense.

But on the other hand the biggist sissies were Germans, they cried like babies when the wind turned on them: ooh Dresden was bombed, oooh we are like sooooo victims.
i was just reading Finnish forum were my countryWOMEN were praising German "gentlemen" : it made me puke. Germans´ girlfriends were given far too lenient terms: you Dutchies treated them like they should have been treated. I am so ashamed of my country sometimes. I would rather be Pole or Dutch...

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 11:41 #392
Tja...neglected by the women for Germans must hurt...understandable!

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,529 Joined: Feb 6, 08 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 11:46 #393
Bratwurst Boy wrote: neglected by the women for Germans must hurt But then again: who would want to date a German? M-G (Buben und Mädel)

Maxxx PayneThreads: 2 Posts: 283 Joined: Oct 11, 06 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 11:56 #394
MareGaea wrote: ratwurst Boy wrote: neglected by the women for Germans must hurt But then again: who would want to date a German? someone with a bad taste I suppose I guess the Germans´women must be tight, considering it was Germans who wanted smaller condom sizes: URL

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 12:01 #395
MareGaea wrote: But then again: who would want to date a German? Lot's of european girls seemingly! :) The Wehrmacht had nice times in countries like Holland or France...

Maxxx PayneThreads: 2 Posts: 283 Joined: Oct 11, 06 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 12:08 #396
Bratwurst Boy wrote: MareGaea wrote: But then again: who would want to date a German? Lot's of european girls seemingly! :) The Wehrmacht had nice times in countries like Holland or France... yeah sure, and Dirlewanger was a "gentleman" too

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 12:10 #397
Maxxx Payne wrote: yeah sure, and Dirlewanger was a "gentleman" too Erm...and this has to do with handsome Fritz having a nice evening with Francine or Duchine in what way? :) Stop being so bitter and move on, the war is over for 60 years!

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,529 Joined: Feb 6, 08 ♂	Edited by: MareGaea Feb 19, 08, 12:12 #398
Bratwurst Boy wrote: The Wehrmacht had nice times in countries like Holland or France... Common joke in Holland about the War is: in 1940 we invited a German friend over - he took 100,000's of them with him and overstayed his visit with about 5 years. Never again we will invite German friends over. M-G (Sauerkraut)

Maxxx PayneThreads: 2 Posts: 283 Joined: Oct 11, 06 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 12:13 #399
Bratwurst Boy wrote: Stop being so bitter and move on, the war is over for 60 years! says man who is whining about "polish cruelty against Germans"

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 12:13 #400
And what's your problem M-G? I know alot of your cheese heads resent the fact being the wart on our german ass but we can't help it, sorry! :)

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 12:14 #401
Leave our German friend, Bratwurst Boy out of it! : )

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Feb 19, 08, 12:15 #402
Filios1 wrote: Leave our German friend, Bratwurst Boy out of it! : ) Ja...genau! :) Just because they got a bit marched over 60 years back they want to refight it with me...

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 12:17 #403
Bratwurst Boy wrote: Just because they got a bit marched over 60 years back the want to refight it with me... Ja! Anyway, Greece was swarming with Germans too in WW2. By logic, I should be angry at Germans too. Bratwurst, isn't that so? Did Germans respect Greece? Is that why much of the country was not destroyed?

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 12:18 #404
German soldiers always respected a brave fighting enemy, you can bet on it! :)

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,529 Joined: Feb 6, 08 ♂	Edited by: MareGaea Feb 19, 08, 12:18 #405
Bratwurst Boy wrote: And what's your problem M-G? I know alot of your cheese heads resent the fact being the wart on our german ass but we can't help it, sorry! Just pulling some strings here :) And sorry that we cheesheads have always been living in a richer country than you Sauerkrauts :) (does not believe in war anyway) M-G

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 12:22 #406
Bratwurst Boy wrote: German soldiers always respected a brave fighting enemy, you can bet on it! :) Javol! salutes

z_dariusThreads: 22 Posts: 5,091 Joined: Oct 18, 07 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 12:23 #407
Bratwurst Boy wrote: German soldiers always respected a brave fighting enemy, you can bet on it! :) Apparently so. That must be why they murdered millions of defenseless women and children.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Feb 19, 08, 12:24 #408
Filios1 wrote: Javol! salutes salutes back Prost

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,529 Joined: Feb 6, 08 ♂	Edited by: MareGaea Feb 19, 08, 12:27 #409
z_darius wrote: That must be why they murdered millions of defenseless women and children LOL I don't tolerate generally bringing up the war again to pick on our German friends, but I do not tolerate glorifying it either. M-G (got 75% of his family killed in Treblinka and Auschwitz - just because they were Jewish)

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 12:27 #410
z_darius wrote: That must be why they murdered millions of defenseless women and children. This is the truth, Darius. But it is well known that the actual military units of the Army, of the Wermacht, rarely killed unarmed soldiers or civilians, and usually took them captive. These were the laymen, who really weren't as hypnotized as the SS units (who murdered in the concentration camps)

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,529 Joined: Feb 6, 08 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 12:30 #411
Filios1 wrote: the Wermacht True, the Wehrmacht were just ordinairy German boys who were drafted and had nothing to do with the SS and extermination and so on. They were even disgusted by the SS. Hitler ordered the Einzatsgruppen to operate covertly as he feared the army would revolt against them. And there were questions about those practises on the highest levels within the Wehrmacht. M-G

z_dariusThreads: 22 Posts: 5,091 Joined: Oct 18, 07 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 12:34 #412
Filios1 wrote: But it is well known that the actual military units of the Army, of the Wermacht, rarely killed unarmed soldiers or civilians, and usually took them captive. Hey, there were even fairly nice fellas within Gestapo and SS, but I wouldn't be so romantic about Wehrmacht: URL

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Feb 19, 08, 12:36 #413

MareGaea wrote:

True, the Wehrmacht were just ordinairy German boys who were drafted and had nothing to do with the SS and extermination and so on

Yes. I mean, you cannot overlook the fact that many of them were just as blind in their following, if not more, than the other divisions. But to paint them all with the same brush as the SS is not fair, I think. Many of the Wehrmacht draftees, especially late in the war, were very young and not willing to fight for Hitler, but were forced to because of the penalties that faced them. If you did not agree, I believe many of them were thrown into camps, just like the Jews and treated as traitors.
The SS units on the other hand, you really had to have been a sick, demented man/woman to serve there... Just thinking about gets my blood boiling.

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Edited by: MareGaea Feb 19, 08, 12:39 #414

Yep Darius, they did not resemble humans with human behaviour, those Germans in Poland...I can understand why so many older Polish ppl deeply resent anything German...This is a crime and shame which cannot be undone, at least not for the first 200 years. Ok, it will become less when the last one who lived at the time dies, but still, the monuments are there: Auschwitz, Treblinka, Sobibor. Monuments that have perverted the Polish nation with the biggest burden one country can ever bear and it has been inflicted upon them by another country.

Filios: Pls watch the Dutch movie "Twins", which exists in an English version also, and you will know that not all SS-soldiers were perverted and sick swines.

M-G

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Feb 19, 08, 12:39 #415

Be fair about the Wehrmacht...they were in a war for 6 years spanning Europe and even Africa. Crimes and Atrocities are bound to happen. It's only that the german arms are possibly the most researched army ever...they could hardly have taken a **** that won't show up in a book somewhere.
Every army in a conflict does bad things...but the Wehrmacht was neither better nor worse than others.

And an important point is that the armies of the victors rarely if at all got scrutinized of war crimes and atrocities...so it looks to an uneducated observer as if the germans did all the bad things and everybody else was peachy clean...that's not true either!

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 12:39 #416
z_darius wrote: Hey, there were even fairly nice fellas within Gestapo and SS, but I wouldn't be so romantic about Wehrmacht I was not being romantic, I was simply being fair to some of these men serving there. I knew about these crimes from the Wehrmacht as well... some of them very revolting indeed.

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 12:41 #417
MareGaea wrote: This is a crime and shame which cannot be undone, at least not for the first 200 years. Apropos...what do you think about that M-G? URL

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,529 Joined: Feb 6, 08 ♂	Edited by: MareGaea Feb 19, 08, 12:41 #418
Bratwurst Boy wrote: Crimes and Atrocities are bound to happen I hope you are not referring to the Holocaust? And: being Jewish does not automatically mean I condone everything Israël does - in fact I strongly disagree with them for over 10 years now. M-G

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 12:42 #419
MareGaea wrote: I hope you are not referring to the Holocaust? I was still talking about the Wehrmacht, the ordinary Landser....and you?

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,529 Joined: Feb 6, 08 ♂	Feb 19, 08, 12:43 #420
Bratwurst Boy wrote: I was still talking about the Wehrmacht, the ordinary Landser....and you? Just making sure. M-G