Whom do the Polish people hate more: Germans or Russians?

isthatuThreads: 4 Posts: 1,627 Joined: Jun 8, 07 ♂	Edited by: isthatu Feb 8, 08, 17:24 #31
Filios1 wrote: that Greeks were more Slavic than Western? lol,we got a slavic king and a kraut queen,who says the two cant get on? :) 16(or does the bit about germano/slavic harmony count as on topic?)so maybe 15

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,900 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Edited by: southern Feb 8, 08, 17:26 #32
isthatu wrote: a slavic king Who was slavic?I would prefer a slavic princess.

isthatuThreads: 4 Posts: 1,627 Joined: Jun 8, 07 ♂	Edited by: isthatu Feb 8, 08, 17:27 #33
Our "king" Philip is Greek,so with the above logic that Greeks are like slavs.....never mind..... southern wrote: I would prefer a slavic princess. Wouldnt we all.Would we then be under a crystal slipper? ;) 17?

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07 ♂	Edited by: Filios1 Feb 8, 08, 17:29 #34
isthatu wrote: so with the above logic I was not the producer of that logic. I only repeat what Crow has stated. isthatu wrote: Greeks are like slavs. But yes, I agree with the main thought that Greeks are more culturally close to the east and to the Slavs, than any other western nation, even some of the neigbouring mediterranean countries. Perhaps remnants of the Byzantine Empire..

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,900 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Feb 8, 08, 17:33 #35
isthatu wrote: that Greeks are like slavs There is some slavic blood in Greece especially in the North.Not a bad thing for the appearance of the local women.

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Feb 8, 08, 17:44 #36

southern wrote:

Yes,they will stretch their anus for an ass attack.

some people say that homosexual lobby rule the world (pederi vladaju)

i don`t believe. But, then, look how Germany rule over EU, how is influential in NATO. Those could be homosexual love stories

I am sure that Bil Clinton and Toni Blair had some romance from time to time. For sure, they raped Slobo in Hague and man died. Plus, they maybe taken few Arabs with them. Yes, Sloba was maybe raped to death

No wonder that General Mladic and Karadzic so long deflect from Hague. They want to avoid raping in jail. ;)

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Feb 8, 08, 19:16 #37
Crow wrote: No wonder that General Mladic and Karadzic so long deflect from Hague. They want to avoid raping in jail. ;) no, those 2 are running from the law because they know they broke it.

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Feb 8, 08, 19:17 #38

Polish hatred to Germans:
some basic info:
killed millions of Poles (mostly civilians), destroyed and stole as much of the country as they were able to. I guess everyone knows that and it's an old story, I can hear the replies: "get over it", these were fathers/grandfathers of the current Germans, so they can't be responsable" etc.
I agree, but I can't overlook the imminent consequences of that 1939 assault:
It CHANGED our 20th century history, indirectly throwing us in the arms of the post-war Soviet Union, thus indirectly deprived us of 50 years of free market economy (not to mention citizen rights, like freedom of speech etc. or other non measurable consequences).
So the EU gave us millions or billions of Euro, to build a highway or two, and you think it's ok?
Without that war, with normal economic growth (no communism), Poland would have those highways built by now with its own money, like all western European countries did.
So yeah, I don't blame today's Germans for the war, I don't hate Germany or its people, and I'm, to a certain degree, thankful for the "alms" we receive, but asking me to love the country that had caused my country to be in a beggar's shoes is a little overboard.

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Feb 8, 08, 20:43 #39

*snif*

*wail*

Wait...why don't you direct your hate to the Brit's, the French and the US???
Germany was never Polands friend...we never broke a treaty or a promise to you...quite to the contrary to your "friends"....
And anyway...there is more than just the past.
In a recent Poll they asked the Germans whom of their neighbours they liked most...now guess where Poland ended...yup...way down at the bottom!
It's more a dog/cat case here...just to different...if it weren't the war then it would be something else!

C'est la vie! :)

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Feb 8, 08, 20:52 #40

Bratwurst Boy wrote:

Germany was never Polands friend...we never broke a treaty or a promise to you

Wrong.
Germany unilaterally broke the German-Polish Non-Aggression Pact, signed for a period of 10 years in 1934.

Bratwurst Boy wrote:

In a recent Poll they asked the Germans whom of their neighbours they liked most...now guess where Poland ended...yup...way down at the bottom!

I would be shocked if the results of the poll were different. After all, 1000 years of hatred won't be changed within just a few decades.

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Feb 8, 08, 21:00 #41
z_darius wrote: Wrong. Germany unilaterally broke the German-Polish Non-Aggression Pact, signed for a period of 10 years in 1934 yuppers. z_darius wrote: 1000 years of hatred now you're talking.. one needs to start with the krauts trying to convert us to christianity, the tutons and so on and on and on .. and on...

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Feb 8, 08, 21:02 #42

z_darius wrote:

Germany unilaterally broke the German-Polish Non-Aggression Pact, signed for a period of 10 years in 1934.

Umm...that was Hitler...wasn't it?
Well then we weren't that good with treaties...just ask the Russians...
What rather supports my point!

You surely won't compare a Hitler treaty with a GB treaty or a French treaty to come immediately to your help, won't you?
Not to mention that the US troops made it barely to the Elbe...totally disinterested in the fate of you Poles! Hugging Uncle Joe instead...
But still...you love them!

plk123 wrote:

now you're talking.. one needs to start with the krauts trying to convert us to christianity, the tutons and so on and on and on .. and on...

What was so bad with this one? You are the most fervent christians now in Europe!
Imagine...no polish pope..without us "tutons"...:)

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Feb 8, 08, 21:16 #43

Bratwurst Boy wrote:

What was so bad with this one? You are the most fervent christians now in Europe!
Imagine...no polish pope..without us "tutons"...:)

Teutonic knights were not in it to convert Polish pagans, rather to take the land and enslave the people, like Germany has been doing throughout history. If I had lived back then, I would have liked to kill some of these cowards who rode under Christs banner.

Bratwurst, I hope to God that there will be a continued anamosity of Germans toward Poles, for if there ever comes a need for war, I would not even hesitate a moment. . .

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Feb 8, 08, 21:19 #44

Bratwurst Boy wrote:

What was so bad with this one? You are the most fervent christians now in Europe!
Imagine...no polish pope..without us "tutons"...:)

dude, no polish pope without our brothers the czecks, eh?

Bratwurst Boy wrote:

You surely won't compare a Hitler treaty with a GB treaty or a French treaty to come immediately to your help, won't you?

a treaty is a treaty, no? brits, french did break theirs too but at least they didn't try to kill us all like you foks did. besides, wasn't hitler an austrian, you bumba$ses? haha you all got snookered by a foreigner too.

these here are some exact reasons why one can't trust a kraut, ever.

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Feb 8, 08, 21:19 #45

plk123 wrote:

these here are some exact reasons why one can't trust a kraut, ever.

And?

Who's got a problem with that?

Filios1 wrote:

Bratwurst, I hope to God that there will be a continued anamosity of Germans toward Poles, for if there ever comes a need for war, I would not even hesitate a moment. . .

Hehe...reminds me about the polish loudmouths before '39..."In one week in Berlin!"
Polish overestimation...like always!

:)

plk123 wrote:

treaty is a treaty, no? brits, french did break theirs too but at least they didn't try to kill us all like you foks did.

I would have thought a betrayal by a friend is much worse...
But then...nobody respects a honest enemy anymore...*shakes head sadly*

PS: Hitler was german born in Austria....these borders...always changing...but then you as a Pole know about that, don't you?

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07 ♂	Edited by: Filios1 Feb 8, 08, 21:25 #46
Bratwurst Boy wrote: Hehe...reminds me about the polish loudmouths before '39..."In one week in Berlin!" Polish overestimation...like always! Never! You can mark my words Bratwurst, never again will be overestimate your German nature, of cruelty and coldness. If push comes to shove, we will see each other, no? Take care my German friend..

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Feb 8, 08, 21:28 #47
Hehe...got already your cavallery ready against my panzers??? I'm shaking! :)

EurolaThreads: 6 Posts: 2,647 Joined: Dec 2, 06 ♀	Feb 8, 08, 21:30 #48
Bratwurst Boy wrote: Hehe...got already your cavallery ready against my panzers??? And who shall stop living in the made up past my dear BBoy? :)

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Feb 8, 08, 21:32 #49
Hey...it isn't me who can't stop talking about the war....looks innocently It's always the war here...the war there...look I have a pimple, remember the war? The bananas haven't been fresh this morning, remember the war? My..my new shoes hurt, remember the war??? And on, and on, and on, and on....yawn

EurolaThreads: 6 Posts: 2,647 Joined: Dec 2, 06 ♀	Feb 8, 08, 21:40 #50
Maybe you should stop bragging how 'great" you were (are) ? Yes, you are an orderly country and doing great, but belittling your neighbors is not going to earn you respect, is it?

plk123Threads: 30 Posts: 6,410 Joined: Aug 29, 07 ♂	Feb 8, 08, 21:43 #51
Bratwurst Boy wrote: PS: Hitler was german born in Austria....these borders...always changing...but then you as a Pole know about that, don't you? sure, sure.. just like copenik and other people you want to call your own.. foking thieving nations.. Bratwurst Boy wrote: And? Who's got a problem with that? and? problems? nah, i drive a kraut everyday.. hahahaha

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Feb 8, 08, 21:49 #52
plk123 wrote: sure, sure.. just like copenik and other people you want to call your own.. foking thieving nations.. Hmmm...just a question...which ethnicity Hitler belonged to if not german??? waits eagerly for plk's wisdom

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Feb 8, 08, 22:02 #53

Bratwurst Boy wrote:

Germany was never Polands friend...we never broke a treaty or a promise to you...

no maybe you didnt, but he has a point, you sit and rub it into peoples faces, but
the money your country recieved was to rebuild.. remember Germany was a Pile
of rubble too.. and he has a very valid point, to which I can say I think he is
correct in saying the war did slow economic growth..

I believe Poland would be in a much better position.. whether anyone thinks
they prob wouldnt move on...im sure they would have moved alot further and
culture would still be strong as ever..

your not to blame for what happened, but of course your defending it all the time
so therefore involving yourself in the mix of it,, so of course you or anyone else
cant be upset if people still converse about it..

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07 ♂	Feb 8, 08, 22:17 #54
Bratwurst Boy wrote: Hehe...got already your cavallery ready against my panzers??? I would ride through the gates of hell to protect my motherland from your fatherland ( : Remember that, Bratwurst, there are many out there that feel the same..

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Feb 8, 08, 22:18 #55

Bratwurst Boy wrote:

*waits eagerly for plk's wisdom*

hope you're not holding your breath.. german he wasn't, germanic, sure.. whatever.. he ruined your butts just as well. half your folk got sold off to foking stalin too and i don't hear you ******** about that man. so you guys got half screwed.. that's screwed anyway you look at it.

you can laugh all you want.. one day you will see way better poland.. you can't deny progress.. some things will never change but we'll see..

EurolaThreads: 6 Posts: 2,647 Joined: Dec 2, 06 ♀	Feb 8, 08, 22:26 #56
Yeah, I'm kind of surprised that BBoy never tries to "invade" his Eastern Germany brothers..why don't you direct your energy there? I heard on the radio, that west Germany is ashamed of their eastern brothers...start 'fixing' them. Will you? In the mean time they should be a perfect, border cushion. hehehehe.

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07 ♂	Feb 8, 08, 22:37 #57
**** THIS BRATWURST BOY Come back you German coward. I want to have a discussion with you about Polish-German relations

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Feb 8, 08, 22:41 #58

Eurola wrote:

Yeah, I'm kind of surprised that BBoy never tries to "invade" his Eastern Germany brothers..why don't you direct your energy there? I heard on the radio, that west Germany is ashamed of their eastern brothers...start 'fixing' them. Will you? In the mean time they should be a perfect, border cushion. hehehehe.

Hmmm...Eurola...dishing out but can't take it?

:)

Filios1 wrote:

Come back you German coward. I want to have a discussion with you about Polish-German relations

Jawohl! *salutes*

Filios1 wrote:

I would ride through the gates of hell to protect my motherland from your fatherland ( : Remember that, Bratwurst, there are many out there that feel the same..

Umm...I don't deny that...ride along...:)

shopgirlThreads: 7 Posts: 1,446 Joined: Apr 6, 07 ♀	Feb 8, 08, 22:49 #59
Filios1 wrote: BRATWURST BOY gets Brat by the ear and drags him out of this thread scolds him "I can't turn my back for a second, can I?" rolls eyes

Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11 Posts: 14,563 Joined: Apr 2, 07 ♂	Feb 8, 08, 22:50 #60
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