Whom do the Polish people hate more: Germans or Russians?

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,900 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Feb 9, 08, 07:31 #91
Grzegorz_ wrote: Gerries have never been really punished for WW2 They left Auschwitz too soon.

MareGaeaThreads: 45 Posts: 5,529 Joined: Feb 6, 08 ♂	Feb 9, 08, 07:36 #92
So I take it the Germans are not really popular :) M-G (we don't like 'em much either)

miranda

Edited by: miranda Feb 9, 08, 07:48 #93

I think that most Poles really don't know Russians and their opinion is based on media and since the receant relationship beween those 2 coutries have not been rosy, Poles are simply afraid of Russian power.

When it comes to Germans, Poles don't like them not because of the war, although that may be a big factor but bacause Germany is a well developed country and even though they lost the war, their economic situation is much better in comparison to Poland's.

So, the Pole are resentful towards Germans, because they are richer, better organized and HAPPIER. So are many European coutries as well.

I personally like Germans - at least the ones I know, because they will tell you what they think, they are pretty straigh forward in dealings in comparison to Poles who beat around the bush most of the time, instead of being direct.
(to be continued)

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Edited by: z_darius Feb 9, 08, 07:49 #94

Bratwurst Boy wrote:

Hehe...reminds me about the polish loudmouths before '39..."In one week in Berlin!"
Polish overestimation...like always!

Sure it took more than a week and yet the Polish flag flew over Berlin.

So what was that German fairy tale about? The 1000 Jahre Reich?
What a gross overestimation!

You also overestimate yourself, keyboard warrior. "Tutons", haha :))

miranda wrote:

I think that most Poles really don't know Russians and their opinion is based on media

No miranda. Media tried to tell us Russians love us. We know Russians. They were in Poland. They occupied Poland. The relationship hasn;t been rosy for a few centuries now. Did you forget?

Grzegorz_Threads: 80 Posts: 6,104 Joined: Nov 16, 06 ♂	Feb 9, 08, 08:15 #95
UPA, sorry but this is the dumbest post you have ever written. So Poles don't like Japanese, French or Australians because they are richer ? Of course not. Most of Poles don't like Germans because they simply... are Germans. miranda wrote: better organized and HAPPIER. Some could doubt the first one and the second is simply not true.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,900 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Edited by: southern Feb 9, 08, 08:21 #96
miranda wrote: and HAPPIER The Germans are never happy.They have a great degree of dissatisfaction and pessimism.

miranda

Feb 9, 08, 08:26 #97

z_darius wrote:

The relationship hasn;t been rosy for a few centuries now. Did you forget?

I didn't forget, but I am interested what is happening now vs what has happened before. If Poles would finally understand that it is good to have a frienldy relationship with all of the neighbouring countries that would be a step forward, instead of backward.

To se ne wrati.

Grzegorz_ wrote:

Most of Poles don't like Germans because they simply... are Germans.

as if that is not dumb explanation using your vocabulary. You just don;t know what to say. You cannot simply dislike somebody just beacuse. There is always an underlying cause which you failed to present - so go back to the drawing board and give me something substancial.

Grzegorz_Threads: 80 Posts: 6,104 Joined: Nov 16, 06 ♂	Feb 9, 08, 08:30 #98
miranda wrote: as if that is not dumb explanation I'm not commenting If that's dumb or not but that's what most people think.

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Edited by: southern Feb 9, 08, 08:30 #99

I will tell you the difference.Germans are organized,Slavs are more natural.Germans like to build,Slavs like nature.Germans are aggressive,Slavs are peacefu.Germans are individualistic,Slavs value collectivism.Germans obey to law,have certain rights and obligations,Slavs are family oriented people with not so many rules.Many differences.
For example a polish family may give you a room to stay.No german family will give you any room unless you pay.They have more formal relationships.Slavs are generous,Germans are stiff.
In behaviour Germans are strict,Slavs are easy going.Germans are cold,Slavs are more emotional.

miranda

Feb 9, 08, 08:35 #100

southern wrote:

I will tell you the difference.Germans are organized,Slavs are more natural.Germans like to build,Slavs like nature.Germans are aggressive,Slavs are peacefu.Germans are individualistic,Slavs value collectivism.Germans obey to law,have certain rights and obligations,Slavs are family oriented people with not so many rules.Many differences.For example a polish family may give you a room to stay.No german family will give you any room unless you pay.They have more formal relationships.Slavs are generous,Germans are stiff.

I know that and thos eare good observations but I failed to see how is that related to happiness?
Germans are powerfull and much stronger than Poland and there is no way around it.

Grzegorz_Threads: 80 Posts: 6,104 Joined: Nov 16, 06 ♂	Feb 9, 08, 08:36 #101
southern wrote: Germans are individualistic,Slavs value collectivism. Some valid points but I wouldn't agree here especially If by Slavs you mean Poles.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,900 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Edited by: southern Feb 9, 08, 08:37 #102
miranda wrote: how is that related to happiness? Because Slavs are easy going and loose and like to party are more friendly and happy than Germans. Yes,Poles are more individualistic than other Slavs.However they have a bigger sense of community than westerners.

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Edited by: NormalRussian Feb 9, 08, 08:42 #103

southern wrote:

I will tell you the difference.Germans are organized,Slavs are more natural.Germans like to build,Slavs like nature.Germans are aggressive,Slavs are peacefu.Germans are individualistic,Slavs value collectivism.

I am Russian and I will tell yo one thing I havent seen more individualistic nation than Poles. I would say anarchistic. Two Poles three opinions.

Miranda ... Polish citizens with Ukrainian origin :) dear Poles do you remember WWII and Ukrianians serving Germans... we punished them :) ? Ukriainians the bigest sucker form region :))

miranda	Edited by: miranda Feb 9, 08, 08:45 #104
NormalRussian wrote: Miranda ... Polish citizens with Ukrainian origin : yes, there are many of us:) and we don't think we are Russians. We know we aren't;)

NormalRussianThreads: 1 Posts: 56 Joined: Feb 3, 08 ♂	Edited by: NormalRussian Feb 9, 08, 08:48 #105
miranda wrote: yes, there are many of us:) and we don't think we are Russians. We know we aren't;) half of Ukriane is Russian. What Poles did for you after WWII. Operation "Wisla" heheh tell us something about that Miranda :) miranda wrote: yes, there are many of us:) 10 000 ? heheh

Grzegorz_Threads: 80 Posts: 6,104 Joined: Nov 16, 06 ♂	Feb 9, 08, 08:52 #106
NormalRussian wrote: 10 000 ? 100 000 at least.

miranda	Edited by: miranda Feb 9, 08, 08:59 #107
NormalRussian wrote: f Ukrian learn how to spell in English so maybe one day I can tell you, so you will be able to comprehand. My Russin is really rusty, if you know what I mean.

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Feb 9, 08, 09:04 #108

Have you seen my Polish friends :) Ukrianian bootlicker, when she realized that Germans are strong she started to bootlick :) Ukrainians nation of bootlickers. :)

They like Germans they welcomed them with flowers, they served in SS, they were the most brutal soldiers. More brutal than Germans. If I am wrong please correct me.

They were executing Poles for vodka, Germans had fun and Ukrianinas had fun. If I am wrong please correct me.

This story about being member of NATO :) UKRAINIANS :)

miranda	Edited by: miranda Feb 9, 08, 09:12 #109
NormalRussian wrote: Have you seen my Polish friends :) you don't have any Polish friends. You are afraid of the potencial strengh of Ukraine, who is not kissing the Russian ass and the Russian cannot steal form it anymore. You have no arguments here, as if Russians didn't cooperate with Hitler at one point. Come on. some Russians!!!!!!!

Grzegorz_Threads: 80 Posts: 6,104 Joined: Nov 16, 06 ♂	Edited by: Grzegorz_ Feb 9, 08, 09:14 #110
UPA, but you were asking for It... Go somewhere else If you want to lick Gerries ass.

NormalRussianThreads: 1 Posts: 56 Joined: Feb 3, 08 ♂	Feb 9, 08, 09:16 #111
Half of Ukraine kiss our ass. We know it is fear. More and more western countries think, Ukrianians are such a divided nation, maybe we shouldnt angry Russia :) Learn Russian :) we are coming. Sory we will turn off gas and you will vote on prorussian politicians and will come to us and beg to be part of our country.

southernThreads: 116 Posts: 10,900 Joined: May 17, 07 ♂	Feb 9, 08, 09:19 #112
What a mess.NormalRussian are you really Russian or a provocateur?

miranda	Feb 9, 08, 09:21 #113
Grzegorz_ wrote: UPA, but you were asking for It... Go somewhere else If you want to lick Gerries ass. I wasn't, I don't dislike them. Normal attact me because he has something against Ukrainians which is not the topic of this thread. I wonder how he knows about my Polish citizenship. He must have read my threads.

NormalRussianThreads: 1 Posts: 56 Joined: Feb 3, 08 ♂	Edited by: NormalRussian Feb 9, 08, 09:22 #114
I am Russian, and I tell things Russians know, Germans know, Poles know. Corect me in points I am wrong. About Germans serving us in EU, about Ukrianians killing Poles in WWII, about operation "wisla", about German companies we bought.

miranda	Feb 9, 08, 09:29 #115
NormalRussian wrote: Corect me in points I am wrong. your are right. I am going to other threads because you are really boring me now. Learn some Ukrainian, it migh come handy in the future.

z_dariusThreads: 22 Posts: 5,091 Joined: Oct 18, 07 ♂	Feb 9, 08, 09:31 #116
miranda wrote: I didn't forget, but I am interested what is happening now vs what has happened before. That's not what you wrote.

NormalRussianThreads: 1 Posts: 56 Joined: Feb 3, 08 ♂	Feb 9, 08, 09:35 #117
Poles like to talk about Katyń. They don't talk about hundrets thousends Poles killed by Ukrianians.

z_dariusThreads: 22 Posts: 5,091 Joined: Oct 18, 07 ♂	Edited by: z_darius Feb 9, 08, 09:41 #118
NormalRussian wrote: Poles like to talk about Katyń. They don't talk about hundrets thousends Poles killed by Ukrianians. Incorrect. Poles make no secrets of that. They even talk about millions of Ukrainians killed by Russian policies. In short, Poles are very well aware of Ukrainian history.

miranda	Feb 9, 08, 09:45 #119
NormalRussian wrote: They don't talk about hundrets thousends Poles killed by Ukrianians. Ukrainians should talk about the famine caused by Stalin in 1933-34 where approx up to 6 million people starved to death. Did you know about this particular genocide?

NormalRussianThreads: 1 Posts: 56 Joined: Feb 3, 08 ♂	Feb 9, 08, 10:02 #120
It is polishforums.com . not Ukrianinan. and Ukrainians were killing Poles with Tatars, with Austrians, with Germans, with Russians. at the end always were punished.

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