Are you Polish? Are you Catholic?

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Jul 15, 10, 14:35 #1
Probably we all have been baptised in Catholic creed but are you consider yourself Catholic? Most of my friends are atheists/agnostics etc., so where are those 90-something % of Polish Catholics??? Some says thats because I live in Łódź - traditionally left-wing city (not true either...) I'm agnostic myself. Rozprawmy się z tym mitem w końcu.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,306 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Jul 15, 10, 14:36 #2
No and no :-)

PeterThreads: 5 Posts: 296 Joined: Mar 31, 07 ♂	Jul 15, 10, 14:37 #3
Born in the Caribbean, baptised in Niepokalanow and still consider myself Roman Catholic even though I don't attend church.

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,709 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Edited by: zetigrek Jul 15, 10, 14:41 #4
Peter: Born in the Caribbean wow I didnt know we have Caribbean diaspora ;) Nice to meet you Pete :)

George8600Threads: 20 Posts: 1,114 Joined: Feb 19, 09 ♂	Jul 15, 10, 14:46 #5
Half Polish and Half Greek, raised pre-dominantly on my Polish side and yes I am a Christian, liberal however not conservative by any means.

OlafThreads: 8 Posts: 1,369 Joined: Oct 29, 09 ♂	Jul 15, 10, 14:54 #6
zetigrek: Most of my friends are atheists/agnostics etc., so where are those 90-something % of Polish Catholics??? These statistics will prevail as long you are considered as catholic. And you are, until you go through apostasia process which is not so easy. 90% is not true at all, as you said.

PaulinaThreads: 2 Posts: 561 Joined: Jan 31, 08 ♀	Jul 15, 10, 14:57 #7
zetigrek: Probably we all have been baptised in Catholic creed but are you consider yourself Catholic? Yes :P

jablkoThreads: - Posts: 156 Joined: Jul 13, 10 ♂	Jul 15, 10, 15:02 #8
agnostic

TorqThreads: 65 Posts: 4,024 Joined: Apr 10, 09 MEMBER ♂	Edited by: Torq Jul 15, 10, 15:03 #9
zetigrek: Are you Polish? Are you Catholic? Yes and yes. zetigrek: Most of my friends are atheists/agnostics etc. Most of my friends are Roman-Catholics. zetigrek: Rozprawmy się z tym mitem w końcu. To nie jest żaden mit. Pomimo bredni lewactwa i ćwierćinteligencji wszelkiej maści, Polska nadal pozostaje krajem katolickim. Polonia semper fidelis!

jablkoThreads: - Posts: 156 Joined: Jul 13, 10 ♂	Jul 15, 10, 15:09 #10
Most people from cities aint really religious. Its the rural and poor areas that have high percentage of religious people.

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Edited by: Torq Jul 15, 10, 15:29 #11

jablko:

Most people from cities aint really religious.

Bollox.

Most of my friends are educated (overwhelming majority of them have higher
technical education - building, electronics and mechanical engineers), they
all live in big cities or towns, their income is way (and I mean waaaay) over
the average income in Poland and they are proud to be Roman-Catholics.

jablko:

Its the rural and poor areas that have high percentage of religious people.

Seriously, I'm sick and tired of hearing this bullcrap over and over again. The fact
that "Gazeta Wyborcza" sells more issues in big cities doesn't mean that there are
fewer religious people there. There are simply more idiots there (willing to pay the
price of a newspaper for something that can only be used as a low quality toilet
paper :)).

jablkoThreads: - Posts: 156 Joined: Jul 13, 10 ♂	Jul 15, 10, 15:36 #12
Calling non religious people idiots doesnt make you look good. Besides stats about Poland being 95% catholic is bs, its the percentage of people being baptized. And your statement about your friends being highly educated and roman catholic isnt really reliable. Everyone can make up such facts.

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Edited by: Torq Jul 15, 10, 15:44 #13

jablko:

Calling non religious people idiots doesnt make you look good.

I can see that you have trouble with your reading comprehension. I simply wrote
that there are more idiots in bigger cities (than in rural areas), which is understandable
seeing as the population of cities is larger and, consequently, more people buy "Gazeta
Aborcza" there :)

jablko:

And your statement about your friends being highly educated and roman catholic isnt really reliable.

It is just as reliable as Zetigrek's claim that most of her friends are agnostic, atheist etc.
You didn't question her statement though, so it's not a matter of credibility, but of your
personal views.

jablko:

Everyone can make up such facts.

Oh, so you're accusing me of lying now? Very well - I can easily arrange a meeting
for you with, let's say, 8 of my friends. All of them engineers, all of them speaking
at least 2 foreign languages fluently and proud to be Roman-Catholic. PM for further
details if you're interested.

jablko:

Besides stats about Poland being 95% catholic is bs

Of course. I estimate the number of proper Catholics in Poland at about 55%.

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Edited by: zetigrek Jul 15, 10, 15:47 #14

Olaf:

90% is not true at all, as you said.

so the statistics are not from surveys, they church statistics. am i right?

Torq:

Most of my friends are educated (overwhelming majority of them have higher
technical education - building, electronics and mechanical engineers), they
all live in big cities or towns, their income is way (and I mean waaaay) over
the average income in Poland and they are proud to be Roman-Catholics.

As a rich Roman Catholic do you support some way the poorer brothers? ;>

Btw. dont u think its not leftism propaganda, just the division into the youngs and the elders. When I had religion lessons, in my high school only about 12 pupils for 33 in class were attending religion.

Torq:

Seriously, I'm sick and tired of hearing this bullcrap over and over again. The fact
that "Gazeta Wyborcza" sells more issues in big cities doesn't mean that there are
fewer religious people there. There are simply more idiots there (willing to pay the
price of a newspaper for something that can only be used as a low quality toilet
paper :)).

And what has Gazeta Wyborcza to do with that? Im agnotic as I said and dont read Wyborcza... but it seems you do (cause you know what bollox they write there, am I wrong?)

Torq dont look at this thread like a war with religion. It is better for Catholicism in Poland to show real statistics, and for Poland to be not consider as country of religion fundamentalists (actually its good for catholic church to not mix into politics).