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iwonaThreads: 13
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Joined: Aug 6, 06 ♀ 		 Jan 30, 07, 13:29    #31
thank you Patrycja.
krysiaThreads: 26
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Joined: Aug 10, 06 ♀ 		 Jan 30, 07, 13:39    #32
They just had on the news that Violetta Villas a famous polish singer was taken to a mental hospital under observation, and the people in her town only complained about her that she had over 100 dogs and didn't do anything to promote their town.
Who says she has to??? Why do some people always complain about something and have to tell others what to do?
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Joined: Jan 25, 07 ♀ 		 Jan 30, 07, 14:23    #33
Quoting: Eurola, Post #4
It would be nice to know how it works in all other languages and cultures. Anybody?


In Danish, there isn't even have a word for "please". It's just a matter of how you ask.

Politeness just takes different forms here... not putting the divider down for the person behind you at the cashier is really rude; whereas cutting someone off to board a train or bus is not a big deal as long as you don't push them. We simply don't queue, only when it's enforced by a ticketing system. We do say thank you an awful lot though. And if you lose your bus card or wallet you might actually get it back in the post.

There isn't a lot of 'superficial' friendliness here either. If people are friendly and nice to you, it's sincere. When I first moved here from they states, it felt like people were cold, but now it just seems genuine; and now when I go to the states I feel almost creeped out by cashiers calling me "honey" or "sweetie" and annoyed at having to answer so many questions from strangers. It's very interesting to see the other side of the coin.
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Joined: Jan 25, 07 ♀ 		Edited by: ak_nelson  Jan 30, 07, 14:48    #34
Personally, I've found Poles to be polite in general. But they also usually laugh when I say that. So, I'm not sure what to think. Older people seem to be extremely polite!
ROZThreads: 2
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Joined: Dec 27, 06 ♂ 		 Jan 30, 07, 23:12    #35
Rude? F- you.. Kiss my arse!


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anielkaThreads: 3
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Joined: Jan 15, 07 ♀ 		 Jan 31, 07, 23:28    #36
Quoting: ROZ, Post #35

Rude? F- you.. Kiss my arse!

Charming, a well thought out response- on the author has mulled on for some time.
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Joined: Jan 15, 07 ♀ 		 Jan 31, 07, 23:35    #37
Quoting: ak_nelson, Post #34
Older people seem to be extremely polite!

Again, the way to address stranger's is in Polish in the third person- to Anglo-Saxon's this seems excessively polite but if this is the way one has been taught it is normal- it would be rude if one says "you" if one does not have their permission, especially to the older generation.
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Joined: Dec 27, 06 ♂ 		Edited by: ROZ  Feb 1, 07, 00:49    #38
Quoting: anielka, Post #36
on the author has mulled on for some time



One might think that this is indeed possible.


Quoting: anielka, Post #37
Again, the way to address stranger's is in Polish in the third person- to Anglo-Saxon's this seems excessively polite but if this is the way one has been taught it is normal- it would be rude if one says "you" if one does not have their permission, especially to the older generation.



An apostrophe either displays possession or is used when omitting words such as not, will, or is. One only needs to add the letter "s" to the words stranger and Saxon in order to make them(the words stranger and Saxon) plural.

Example: The knife was Nicole's. The knife didn't belong to OJ Simpson.

The example of apostrophe use in the first short sentence clearly shows possession stating that the knife belongs to Nicole. In the second sentence the apostrophe is used to combine the two words did and not. That being said, the knife did nnt belong to OJ. Apparently the glove didn't either
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Joined: Jan 15, 07 ♀ 		 Feb 1, 07, 01:38    #39
Quoting: ROZ, Post #38
The example of apostrophe use in the first short sentence clearly shows possession

Silly me, I put the apostrophe in the wrong place- apologies- to correct this I rewrite:
Anglo-Saxons' and strangers'.
Now, please explain your well thought out, deep and meaningful bunch of swear words to me.
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Joined: May 19, 06 ♂ 		 Feb 1, 07, 12:14    #40
Quoting: iwona, Post #1
I really don't like it "are you all right".....What is the point of it? This person doesn't know me personally and is not interested if I am "all right" or not.


This is just a normal part of British culture/English language.In traditional times when a 'gentleman' met someone he might say "How do you do?" (How are you doing?).The modern more informal version is "You alright?" (Are you alright/ok?).This is just considered a more friendly way of saying "Hello".People usually respond by saying "I am very well/fine thanks/not bad" etc. I really don't see what the problem is!
It is different to the American automatic "Have a nice day" etc.
I think perhaps the Polish language/culture is more formal and less fluid than Britain.Try and enjoy the better differences.
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Joined: Jul 20, 06 ♂ 		 Feb 1, 07, 18:16    #41
Quoting: ak_nelson, Post #34
Personally, I've found Poles to be polite in general. But they also usually laugh when I say that. So, I'm not sure what to think. Older people seem to be extremely polite!


Because Poles are masters at self-criticism.


Quoting: anielka, Post #37
Again, the way to address stranger's is in Polish in the third person- to Anglo-Saxon's this seems excessively polite but if this is the way one has been taught it is normal- it would be rude if one says "you" if one does not have their permission, especially to the older generation.


Third person? Do you mean addressing people per Pan/Pani(Mister/Madam)?
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Joined: Jan 15, 07 ♀ 		 Feb 1, 07, 20:56    #42
Quoting: Matyjasz, Post #41
Third person? Do you mean addressing people per Pan/Pani(Mister/Madam)?

Yes- although I'm not sure this is the correct way to express it in English.
feral belcher  Feb 1, 07, 21:04    #43
Quoting: ak_nelson, Post #34
Personally, I've found Poles to be polite in general.

Except in Polish delicatessen stores.
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Joined: Dec 2, 06 ♀ 		 Feb 1, 07, 21:21    #44
I spent well over a half of my life in the US. I love the distance between people when standing in line to buy, let's say a movie ticket or a popcorn. The slightest, untended touch of bodies causes immediate acknowledgment - "I'm sorry".
To avoid touching a person when passing in a tight place there is always "Excuse me" - just in case. "Thank you" and "You're welcome" are as common as bread and water.
Too much politeness is never wrong.
I traveled on the train in Poland on my last visit. I was almost knocked down by this woman passing by quickly and there was not a word of apology... like I didn't exist.
I still could not see the welcoming smile of a person behind a counter. Often, it was almost like 'take it or leave it".
I'm sure there are stores who may operate more friendly, but there seem not enough of them yet.
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Joined: Aug 10, 06 ♀ 		 Feb 1, 07, 21:45    #45
I agree. People in Poland like to push. One bus doesn't show up, so everyone pushes to get on the next one.
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Joined: Dec 27, 06 ♂ 		 Feb 1, 07, 21:50    #46
I hate to be the guy that drives the beer truck
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Joined: Aug 10, 06 ♀ 		 Feb 1, 07, 21:53    #47
Hey buddy!! you can help licking up the spill once they turn it over.
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what if Im the one that knocked it over!!!!
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You and what army?
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I dont need no stinkin Army
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Joined: Jan 25, 07 ♀ 		 Feb 1, 07, 22:26    #51
Quoting: Eurola, Post #44
The slightest, untended touch of bodies causes immediate acknowledgment - "I'm sorry".
To avoid touching a person when passing in a tight place there is always "Excuse me" - just in case.


But, what's so bad about touching people? (Not including pushing and shoving, obviously.) I grew up there and don't get it. Seems like people are afraid of getting sued, molested, infected, beat up, or some crazy ****. I think it would be so much nicer if people could trust each other's intentions more.

We could use a few more "excuse me"s here in Denmark. However In England it feels like people are constantly saying "i'm sorry", for everything. In Poland, I found the balance to be just about right.
feral belcher  Feb 1, 07, 23:15    #52
Quoting: ak_nelson, Post #51
But, what's so bad about touching people?

It's like invading their privacy.
King SobieskiThreads: 7
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Joined: Jan 22, 07 ♂ 		 Feb 1, 07, 23:20    #53
Quoting: Eurola, Post #44
I traveled on the train in Poland on my last visit. I was almost knocked down by this woman passing by quickly and there was not a word of apology... like I didn't exist.


It is not just Poland, this happens everywhere, especially bigger cities.
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Joined: Jan 22, 07 ♂ 		 Feb 1, 07, 23:23    #54
Quoting: feral belcher, Post #52
It's like invading their privacy.


i agree, there is a personal space that shouldn't be invaded.
iwonaThreads: 13
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Joined: Aug 6, 06 ♀ 		 Feb 2, 07, 02:36    #55
This is just a normal part of British culture/English language.In traditional times when a 'gentleman' met someone he might say "How do you do?" (How are you doing?).The modern more informal version is "You alright?" (Are you alright/ok?).This is just considered a more friendly way of saying "Hello".People usually respond by saying "I am very well/fine thanks/not bad" etc. I really don't see what the problem is!
It is different to the American automatic "Have a nice day" etc.
I think perhaps the Polish language/culture is more formal and less fluid than Britain.Try and enjoy the better differences.

I quite like "How do you do".....I remember learning it at school ...but noone uses it now.bit old-fashioned.

You alright?" (Are you alright/ok?).This is just considered a more friendly way of saying "Hello

I personally prefer Hello, Good morning....
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Joined: Dec 27, 06 ♂ 		 Feb 3, 07, 00:13    #56
Quoting: anielka, Post #39
Silly me, I put the apostrophe in the wrong place- apologies- to correct this I rewrite:
Anglo-Saxons' and strangers'.


Silly old goose, you don't need an apostrophe

The words you used and how you were trying to use them was in a plural(more than one) tense.

To pluralize words that do not end in "s", one only needs to add an "s". Example: Jerk is a singular word meaning there is only 1 jerk here. Adding the "s" making the word jerks means that there are more than one jerk here

To pluralize words that end with an "s", one only needs to add an "es" to the end. Example: Glass is a singular word. Glasses is the plural tense of the word meaning you have more than one glass.

Quoting: anielka, Post #39

Now, please explain your well thought out, deep and meaningful bunch of swear words to me.


Actually, they were meaningless words used in attempt to be humorous Besides you can't even get apostrophe use correct

All kidding aside, you write well for not being a native English speaker. Apostrophes and commas are the most abused punctuation in writing English
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Joined: Dec 27, 06 ♂ 		 Feb 3, 07, 00:26    #57
Quoting: Matyjasz, Post #41
Third person? Do you mean addressing people per Pan/Pani(Mister/Madam)?


I believe this is considered the "second person" in English.
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Joined: Aug 6, 06 ♀ 		 Feb 4, 07, 11:59    #58
Is it third person all fashion way of calling servants?
Patrycja19Threads: 76
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Joined: Oct 31, 06 Pictures: 1 ♀ 		 Feb 4, 07, 13:01    #59
I think everyone is capable of rude, if your not feeling yourself, intentionally we all
can be rude and not mean to be. Rude is a mood. and all people have this mood

so, just dont ram your buggys into anyone and you will be fine lol
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Joined: Jan 15, 07 ♀ 		 Feb 4, 07, 18:46    #60
Quoting: iwona, Post #58
Is it third person all fashion way of calling servants?

I don't know- Roz has kindly pointed out to me it is considered in the second person in English when addressing strangers in Polish.
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