Do you think that Polish people are rude?

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Feb 4, 07, 19:46 #61

Quoting: anielka, Post #60

don't know- Roz has kindly pointed out to me it is considered in the second person in English when addressing strangers in Polish.

Grammatical person in English
English distinguishes three grammatical persons:
The personal pronouns I and we are said to be in the first person. The speaker uses this in the singular to refer to himself or herself; in the plural, to speak of a group of people including the speaker.

The personal pronoun you is in the second person. It refers to the addressee. You is used in both the singular and plural; thou is the archaic second-person singular pronoun.

All other pronouns and all nouns are in the third person. Any person place or thing other than the speaker and the addressed is referred to in the third person.

ROZThreads: 2 Posts: 106 Joined: Dec 27, 06 ♂	Feb 4, 07, 23:08 #62
Well I stand corrected. For some reason I thought nouns were included in second person.... I guess I should have checked Wikipedia first

anielkaThreads: 3 Posts: 106 Joined: Jan 15, 07 ♀	Feb 5, 07, 00:55 #63
Quoting: iwona, Post #58 Is it third person all fashion way of calling servants? I have never heard of the third person being used to address servants- it sounds derogatory towards the servants-I doubt Poles would say this- simply as it is not polite.

anielkaThreads: 3 Posts: 106 Joined: Jan 15, 07 ♀	Feb 5, 07, 01:03 #64
Quoting: King Sobieski, Post #61 All other pronouns and all nouns are in the third person. Any person place or thing other than the speaker and the addressed is referred to in the third person. Thank-You King Sobieski for verifying what I assumed was correct.

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Edited by: kaka Feb 5, 07, 06:42 #65

some polish people are rude some not... if you stand in a huge line you probably will get the impresion that polish people are rude... as the lines make ppl more agresive.. I know it form my own experience... meybe it is because that in the past during comunism there was nothing exept of huge lines

but at other hand you will go to bakery and women who sells over there will be so kind and recommend what is good and what not, and even she will tell you not to take one cake cuz she thinks it's not fresh enough.. everything depends on ppl. but when you start to speak to smb politly you will get the same.

iwonaThreads: 13 Posts: 639 Joined: Aug 6, 06 ♀	Feb 5, 07, 06:56 #66
I have never heard of the third person being used to address servants- it sounds derogatory towards the servants-I doubt Poles would say this- simply as it is not polite. It is not now,I tought about 100 years ago. I am sure it was used .

miranda	Feb 5, 07, 07:08 #67
Quoting: iwona, Post #66 It is not now,I tought about 100 years ago. I am sure it was used . you are right Iwona. Grammatical person is also still used in Poland by some children to address their parents as a sign of respect. Example: Czy Mama moglaby poczekac? Could Mother wait?

anielkaThreads: 3 Posts: 106 Joined: Jan 15, 07 ♀	Feb 5, 07, 08:14 #68
Quoting: miranda, Post #67 you are right Iwona. Yes that us right-as well as to strangers and the elderly as I outlined in my other posts.

anielkaThreads: 3 Posts: 106 Joined: Jan 15, 07 ♀	Feb 5, 07, 08:15 #69
Although I don't know if it applies to servants..

iwonaThreads: 13 Posts: 639 Joined: Aug 6, 06 ♀	Feb 5, 07, 12:37 #70
What about ...Niech Gerwazy zaprzegnie do wozu......Niech Marysia poda herbate....

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06 ♂	Feb 6, 07, 03:45 #71
Quoting: anielka, Post #42 Yes- although I'm not sure this is the correct way to express it in English. Yeah, I think it's not possible to find an English equivalent.

kgjhg

Feb 15, 07, 18:10 #72

i know lots of polish people.. every single one of them is rude.. but not in the same way. so i'm guessing it might just be bad luck with me. because if all polish people where rude, they would be rude in a similar way..

one girl is rude because she will always butt into a conversation that had nothing to do wit her and argue with all of us...
another boy is rude in the way that he will always ask things of you and expect it. but when you ask things of him. he will blunt and say..GET lost.

overall i think polish people hav different customs thats all.. at least i hope. because no one race can be rude. there's good and bad people in all races..

Jeska

Feb 16, 07, 06:41 #73

One polish friend from high school always had a way of being really nice and sweet but very distant from those she spent most her time with. Some people would think she is weird, or uncomplementary, but it just takes time to get to know some people and it turns out she has a very interesting personality / sense of humour. Like anyone, it takes some time to warm up. No need to be offended; Respect for self is always most important.

Evangelion	Feb 17, 07, 07:10 #74
hello everyone, im an italian guy living in ireland for 6 years and i have to say that the situation here is not easy either, 150.000 poles in a country of 4.000.000 people is a outrage, and the thing to make me angry most is the use of signs for poles who doesn't speak english, as far as i remember nobody was putting signs in italian when i came over to help me interacting with people. regards

RanjThreads: 27 Posts: 1,286 Joined: Sep 29, 06 ♀	Edited by: Ranj Feb 17, 07, 07:14 #75
the thing to make me angry most is the use of signs for poles who doesn't speak english, as far as i remember nobody was putting signs in italian when i came over to help me interacting with people. [/quote] Was there a large influx of Italians moving to Ireland at the time you moved there?

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Feb 17, 07, 08:47 #76

Quoting: Evangelion

hello everyone, im an italian guy living in ireland for 6 years and I have to say that the situation here is not easy either, 150.000 poles in a country of 4.000.000
people is a outrage, and the thing to make me angry most is the use of signs for poles who doesn't speak english, as far as i remember nobody was putting signs in italian when i came over to help me interacting with people.

regards

Evangelion, can I, as an Irishman, profusely apologise and offer you the use of my home for the remainder of your stay in Ireland to make up for the dreadful, unrequited sleight you suffered at the hands of my fellow countrymen...

I shudder to think, at how you felt as an Italian, coping bravely in the land of the most unfriendly and surly nation on earth......it must have been ever so difficult.

PS Can I ask why you've stayed for a whole 6 yrs, in this, the most dreadful of countries?

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06 ♂	Feb 17, 07, 08:55 #77
Quoting: Frank PS Can I ask why you've stayed for a whole 6 yrs, in this, the most dreadful of countries? couldnt understand the signs telling him which way the exit was...? ... just a guess...

FrankThreads: 27 Posts: 1,342 Joined: Aug 14, 06 ♂	Feb 17, 07, 09:03 #78
No pleasin' some folks bubb...huh?...lol

Polish_chick14Threads: 1 Posts: 14 Joined: Feb 17, 07 ♀	Feb 17, 07, 16:34 #79
I think that Poles have decent manners. better than us Americans! Please and Thank You!

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06 ♂	Feb 17, 07, 16:40 #80
Quoting: Polish_chick14 better than us Americans! Pardon me, but Speak for yourself

Polish_chick14Threads: 1 Posts: 14 Joined: Feb 17, 07 ♀	Feb 17, 07, 16:42 #81
Quoting: Zgubiony Pardon me, but Speak for yourself You have a point. Most Americans are rude, yet not all. Still, when you walk down the streets and someone bumps inot you, what would happen in Poland, or NYC? think about this...

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06 ♂	Feb 17, 07, 16:44 #82
Have you ever tried to queue in Poland? I think at least in the US people stand in line properly without being shoved out of the way. ...and yes, there are a lot of rude Americans, but we're becoming more friendly in NY

ZgubionyThreads: 21 Posts: 2,037 Joined: Oct 20, 06 ♂	Feb 17, 07, 16:46 #83
Rude people can kiss my arse anyway

BubbaWooThreads: 46 Posts: 4,438 Joined: Sep 26, 06 ♂	Feb 17, 07, 17:07 #84
Quoting: Polish_chick14 walk down the streets and someone bumps inot you, what would happen in Poland, ive been asked for a fight twice in the last couple of weeks when this has happened...

Evangelion

Feb 17, 07, 17:07 #85

Quoting: Frank

Evangelion, can I, as an Irishman, profusely apologise and offer you the use of my home for the remainder of your stay in Ireland to make up for the dreadful, unrequited sleight you suffered at the hands of my fellow countrymen...I shudder to think, at how you felt as an Italian, coping bravely in the land of the most unfriendly and surly nation on earth......it must have been ever so difficult.PS Can I ask why you've stayed for a whole 6 yrs, in this, the most dreadful of countries?

well thanks for the offer frank!

i've been 6 years in ireland because, first i wanted to learn english, second because after a few weeks i met the girl who is still my girlfriend, so that's the story .
you are right man, ireland is tough but never had much trouble, after all this time i know a lot of people.
to continue with the polish thing, i would like to add that i know a lot of them
and are good people, but the thing that they have all in common is that they are ******* greedy, and for 2 euro they would be able to do anything.
and again, i can understand that they have the chanche of their life to make money
buy explain me why all this steroid pumped guys are goin around thinking they are hollywood stars, and not speaking about the girls that they are even worst, fake tan, ***** dresses, and so on, like hey! look at me im the best looking girl around.

oh! yeah! we have the same in italy on the motorway.

ajgraham	Feb 17, 07, 21:15 #86
Quoting: iwona Do you think that Polish people are rude? Who gives a F--K......I mean... its not as if its important is it???

Evangelion	Feb 17, 07, 23:59 #87
yeah well, when they come to the store and ask me " give me bag" my balls start to trottle a lot, as everyone knows that english language is a cold language and without thanks or please its sounds very rude, but if you are a scumbag the thing doesn't apply.

iwonaThreads: 13 Posts: 639 Joined: Aug 6, 06 ♀	Feb 18, 07, 10:01 #88
the thing to make me angry most is the use of signs for poles who doesn't speak english, Polish didn't ask for it. Labour over-employed councils have to justify their useless existence.

iwonaThreads: 13 Posts: 639 Joined: Aug 6, 06 ♀	Feb 18, 07, 10:08 #89
Who gives a F--K......I mean... its not as if its important is it??? it does because this forum is about polish not about your stupid mumbling.

HullaH00p

Feb 18, 07, 10:40 #90

Sorry to but in. -- Just SFI today.

I put this on another post but sort off relates

The English Guy / Polish girl thing usually fails because of cultural misunderstandings.

The other allowance in the accent. -- Say 6-7-8 quickly in Polish and feel what part of the mouth you are using and combine that with the natural upward lanuage stress on the penultimate syllable in Polish. Now say something using a sarcastic intonation in English.

English people in London just think that Poles with otherwise perfect English are being sarcastic so in turn they are frosty in return so Polish people think that English people are being unfriendly.
They just don't understand the accent so don't make allowances -- as opposed to French, German any or western european language that they were more familiar with.

Not trying to be controversial or accord to a stereotype but in London at the moment you do see it time and time again.

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