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freebird
Edited by: Admin  Jun 13, 07, 13:00  #1

I saw it today on TV. Do you think it's OK?

 
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shopgirl
  Jun 13, 07, 13:01  #2

Where did you see it, what network? Why were they doing it? Protest of missile base?

 
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slwkk
Edited by: slwkk  Jun 13, 07, 13:03  #3

I'm sure they were antiglobalists protesting against the visit of George Bush. Just ignore them ;-)

 
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freebird
Edited by: freebird  Jun 13, 07, 13:07  #4

Quoting: shopgirl
Where did you see it, what network? Why were they doing it? Protest of missile base?

Can't name the network but it was sent today. I believe it was about Bush visit in Poland. Sorry was too short to get the sense out of it. I understand, some people or even many people don't like Bush but to burn the US flag, that's bull..........

 
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freebird
  Jun 13, 07, 13:07  #5

Quoting: slwkk
antiglobalists

you might be right about that, I'm not sure, was too short

 
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shopgirl
  Jun 13, 07, 13:13  #6

I think flag burning happens all the time....it makes for a bold statement for those you have an issue with the US.

I believe in free speech, so it doesn't really bother me. I take it as a comment that they don't like what they perceive our country is representing...an opinion if you will.

And I really did not like the backlash the Dixie Chicks got for dissing George. The vicious, hate filled backlash, in my opinion, was far worse than anything Natalie said.

 
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  Jun 13, 07, 13:13  #7

Quoting: freebird
I understand, some people or even many people don't like Bush but to burn the US flag, that's bull..........

Name a country in which there were no US or whatever country flags burnt. Just because there are some radical people in Poland who did that doesn't mean all Poles burn American flags. Same with hooligans - if some British hools attacked black people, a normal person would not write "British people attacking black people", would it?

Please don't create anotyer hype/stereotype. The topic of this thread should be: "A few Poles burnt American flag".

 
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freebird
  Jun 13, 07, 13:19  #8

Quoting: hello
that doesn't mean all Poles burn American flags

did I say that all Poles burn US flags? :-)

 
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slwkk
  Jun 13, 07, 13:19  #9

Quoting: freebird
you might be right about that, I'm not sure, was too short


Not good, now some Americans because of that news can think that burning USA flag is normal thing in Poland :P Anybody should know that we don't burn any flags, even Russian or Iraqi ones.

 
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freebird
  Jun 13, 07, 13:21  #10

Quoting: hello
The topic of this thread should be: "A few Poles burnt American flag".

take a good look at the name of the topic one more time .....please

 
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polishcanuck
  Jun 13, 07, 13:24  #11

I don't have a picture of the burning of the flag, but here is a pic of the aftermath:



 
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freebird
  Jun 13, 07, 13:25  #12

Quoting: slwkk
Not good, now some Americans because of that news can think that burning USA flag is normal thing in Poland :P Anybody should know that we don't burn any flags, even Russian or Iraqi ones.

Thank you for your statement. I realize that most of Poles don't burn flags :-)

 
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Grzegorz_
  Jun 13, 07, 13:28  #13

Quoting: polishcanuck
I don't have a picture of the burning of the flag, but here is a pic of the aftermath:


When that happened and why ?

 
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FISZ
  Jun 13, 07, 13:29  #14

Quoting: slwkk
Not good, now some Americans because of that news can think that burning USA flag is normal thing in Poland

Not at all. Flag burning is the right of the people.

 
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freebird
  Jun 13, 07, 13:30  #15

Quoting: polishcanuck
don't have a picture of the burning of the flag, but here is a pic of the aftermath:

OK....and your statement to it is....?

 
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FISZ
  Jun 13, 07, 13:31  #16

We've even burned our own flag during Vietnam. Who cares?

 
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freebird
  Jun 13, 07, 13:32  #17

Quoting: FISZ
Not at all. Flag burning is the right of the people.

you're full of it fisz

 
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FISZ
Edited by: FISZ  Jun 13, 07, 13:33  #18

Quoting: freebird
you're full of it fisz


Full of what? It's a right. What type of reply is this?

They say it's a "Desecration". What say you?

Me? Since when can the Govt say something is sacred? We do have seperation of church and state....no?

 
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freebird
  Jun 13, 07, 13:34  #19

Quoting: FISZ
We've even burned our own flag during Vietnam. Who cares?

you obviously don't fisz with your "difficult times"

 
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freebird
  Jun 13, 07, 13:35  #20

you know fisz what I'm talking about lol

 
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daffy
Edited by: daffy  Jun 13, 07, 13:35  #21

flag burning is the right of the people.

it is a symbol for their dissatisfaction with the state.

while i wouldn't do it myself

I believe blind obedience to the state is foolish and asking for trouble
(removal of freedom, the patriot act) I appreciate there is a 'war on terror' but its also been a good way for the US gov't to pry into the homes of every US citizen at there will and leisure

 
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FISZ
  Jun 13, 07, 13:35  #22

Quoting: freebird
you obviously don't fisz with your "difficult times"

Ok....go educate yourself then come back and chat.

 
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Grzegorz_
  Jun 13, 07, 13:36  #23

Quoting: FISZ
Flag burning is the right of the people.


Not everywhere. I don't know about others, but burning Polish in Poland is a crime. And we don't use to burn even Russian or German, so I'm very surprised.

 
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FISZ
Edited by: Moderator  Jun 13, 07, 13:37  #24

Quoting: freebird
you know fisz what I'm talking about lol

? Wha?
Quoting: daffy
while i wouldn't do it myself

I agree.
Our right to burn a flag is not centered on the flag itself or who it belongs to, but our right to make a statement without being regulated. In the US, flag burning is protected by the first amendment of the Constitution, which says inpart:“Congress shall make no law abridging freedom of speech.”Our first amendment freedom of speech is protected no matter what nation’s flag is involved.

 
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freebird
  Jun 13, 07, 13:46  #25

Quoting: Grzegorz_
Not everywhere. I don't know about others, but burning Polish in Poland is a crime. And we don't use to burn even Russian or German, so I'm very surprised.

thanks Grzegorz and besides burning a national flag of one country deeply touches millions of people even if they disagree with current politics and certainly doesn't solve any national or international problems.

 
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Matyjasz
Edited by: Matyjasz  Jun 13, 07, 13:46  #26

Quoting: Grzegorz_
Not everywhere. I don't know about others, but burning Polish in Poland is a crime. And we don't use to burn even Russian or German, so I'm very surprised.



Well, those people where anty-glob..... ermm pardon me, alter-globalists. I guess it explains everything. :)

 
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FISZ
  Jun 13, 07, 13:47  #27

So....you don't care about the right's we DO have? People in Iran burn our flag on a daily basis...why aren't you out protesting this?

 
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freebird
  Jun 13, 07, 13:50  #28

Quoting: FISZ
why aren't you out protesting this?

are you comparing Iran with Poland?

 
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FISZ
Edited by: Moderator  Jun 13, 07, 13:52  #29

Quoting: freebird
are you comparing Iran with Poland?

ok...forget it. It's beyond you. At this point you're looking for an arguement. I never said anything like that.

I just appreciate my First Ammendment right. Sad as an American you don't.
I will post this again:
Quoting: FISZ
Our right to burn a flag is not centered on the flag itself or who it belongs to, but our right to make a statement without being regulated. In the US, flag burning is protected by the first amendment of the Constitution, which says inpart:“Congress shall make no law abridging freedom of speech.”Our first amendment freedom of speech is protected no matter what nation’s flag is involved.


 
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espana
  Jun 13, 07, 13:59  #30

Quoting: FISZ
People in Iran burn our flag on a daily basis...

is only a flag in the end

 
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